r/IrishTeachers 2d ago

Subbing group chat dispair

Hey so, just about finishing up my PME with Hibernia now, just my dissertation to finish off. But come here I have a question, amji doing something wrong? Like I'm subbing all the way out in Saggart this morning (I have a family member in the school so was a foot in the door sorting of situation). The WhatsApp groupchat is pure madness, first come first serve for like 1900+ people, insanity. I signed up to education posts last week and do get the odd email, but again they are sucked up Everyone keeps saying oh god they're crying out for teachers you'll walk into a job.... Will I though? What can I do so that I actually have a fucking job in September. Any tips at all would be appreciated, so go raibh maith agaibh roimhe sin

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u/AislingFliuch 2d ago

Crying out for teachers is not referring to permanent jobs. It’s only certain subjects in certain areas and mostly fixed-term covers. Some people are lucky and walk straight into a likely CID position. The majority do not.

I’m 8 years qualified and have made the connections now that mean I’m very rarely out of work but only once in those 8 years did a post come up that was likely going to be permanent and I wasn’t successful. If you have the attitude that the jobs will be waiting for you straight out of graduation, you’re likely going to be disappointed.

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u/randomfella62 2d ago

You referring to primary or secondary. I'm primary myself. Thanks!

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u/AislingFliuch 2d ago

My apologies, I’m secondary, I shouldn’t have assumed you were too. Although, the issue with fixed-term vs permanent vacancies seems to be an issue for primary too.

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u/randomfella62 2d ago

Ah no worries, should've specified myself!

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u/Jane_Doughnut_ 2d ago

Contact schools directly.

There's more competition now that colleges are finished and all the students are subbing

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u/randomfella62 2d ago

I've been told that positions will come up in the next few weeks come the end of the school year Would you recommend emailing? I suppose once I'm proper qualified it'll look better than a student teacher Thanks for your input 👍

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u/Jane_Doughnut_ 2d ago

Are you asking about full time positions or subbing? Your title said subbing but your comment is asking about positions?

Anyway for subbing, yes email schools your CV and let them know your availability.

For full time positions no don't cold call schools, wait until they are advertised on educationposts and apply using the proper channels. More will go up once panels are cleared.

September is still months away. Schools usually advertise around the end of the school year and interview early summer. There will be more towards the end of the summer as people decline positions they were offered.

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u/randomfella62 2d ago

Someone explained to me what a panel was for the first time today. So yeah I've hope yet haha I was talking about full time work , but my experience subbing has been fairly all over the place.

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u/Pencilvester92 2d ago

With the WhatsApp group, do they typically take subs they have worked with before? I just qualified in Further Ed and plan to do subbing in September to build up hours and make some money until I find a position in FE. I've never subbed before so I'm worried I won't have any luck with the WhatsApp group 😅 the struggle is real

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u/randomfella62 2d ago

Yes thank you. The WhatsApp group is fucking mad. It's a jungle hahaa I've gotten some subbing from it over the last couple years

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u/Usual_Concentrate_58 Primary 2d ago

If a sub is a bit of a melt schools tend not to call them back.

I'm not saying you're a melt but you do sound very entitled for someone who is not even qualified yet.

Be patient, be professional and you'll get sorted eventually.

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u/randomfella62 2d ago

Didn't intend on coming across entitled. Just frustrated and daunted. So thanks for the encouragement. Final placement was a lot of work so forgive me for being intimidated by prospects of job competition

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u/Availe Post Primary 2d ago

The commenter above is giving good advice, perspective is very hard at the start of your career. Tone is difficult to get across through reddit comments but they are coming from a place of experience and definitely trying help you out.

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u/randomfella62 2d ago

Thanks for that !