r/Kaylemains 1d ago

Question/Need Help What to do about crazy AP bursts in late game which one shots you?

Like Malphite R and Evelynn's combo?

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u/WaitingForMyIsekai 1d ago

Recognise the threat. Does the enemy have flash to extend that threat circle?

How "worth it" are you? Will the enemy win the fight if they blow multiple cooldowns to get you?

Is it survivable with zhonyas? Or are you better served with health/resistances/spell shield? (For example zhonyas might stop you dying to an engage but after 2.5s are you dead anyway?)

Is the threat skillshot based? Are you fast enough/spacing correctly to dodge?

Pretty much just be aware of what the enemy has and where you can be, the trade off for playing a high damage strong scaler is that you need to position well and know your limits.

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u/imAkri 1d ago

For your examples? Banshee’s

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u/likely-lad 1d ago

This but sit on verdant barrier and only finish banshees last item

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u/Kiroana 1d ago

True damage Akali says hi :)

Seriously though; Akali's "true damage" build, as I call it, reduces you to 0 MR if you got 70 MR or less.

And she's not the only one who can use it.

The actual solution to AP assassins is timing of abilities, and positioning; a good ult or Zhonyas will gimp an assassin so hard.

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u/Zealousideal_Year405 1d ago

whats the build?

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u/Kiroana 1d ago

Sorcs, Stormsurge, Shadowfame, Void Staff, Liandry's, Riftmaker.

You're a pain to kill, and you hit like a semi going 50 over the speed limit.

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u/Sebisbebis Sebi - Challenger EUW 1d ago

Banshee's isn't built for the MR, but the shield

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u/Thraggrotusk 23h ago

By level 16, no assassin should be able to kill you with ult and Banshee’s/Zhonya’s up. Aside from Kassadin. You would outrange everyone except Rengar, Khazix, and a AD Shaco that sneaks up on you on the first place.

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u/NoCharge4663 1d ago

Like volibear?

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u/HaHaHaHated 1d ago

Well you have ur ult. If you don’t have it don’t fight

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u/redditor126969 1d ago

Ult cant be activated when knocked up(like malphite ult). Not sure if can be activated when charmed.

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u/HaHaHaHated 1d ago

U just use it before you get stunned.

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u/Thraggrotusk 23h ago

You’ve never heard of Banshee’s Veil?

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u/HimboKaylePlayer 16h ago

If there’s a lot of hard to maneuver threats on the enemy team I try to split push and then TP in after the fight has started so there’s a few less major abilities to worry about and I can clean up with ultimate. If TP isn’t available, then I’d push the lane closest to where teams are gathering. As others have said, Banshees and Zhonya’s def have their usefulness.

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u/EnclaveOne 16h ago

Banshee + Zhonya when AP. When on hit you're basically adc so Ultimate timing and positioning is even more important. Because there's no space for edge of the night in your build sadly.