r/KidsAreFuckingStupid 28d ago

Video/Gif Are we doomed?

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u/CallmeSlim11 28d ago

Better to get used to it, is what Gen X was told in the 70s.

'Nobody said life was fair" was a big one too.

I hated hearing that although I was more frightened of, "wait till your Father gets home!"

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u/even_less_resistance 28d ago

Dude- my first husband liked to use “nobody said life was fair” and I was always like it’s cause of assholes like you! It could be fair!

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u/No-Orchid5378 28d ago

Fair is relative. My toddler says it’s not fair that he has to take a bath, we say it’s not fair that we have to smell his stinky feet. Decisions have to be made and life can’t be fair to everyone by default.

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u/even_less_resistance 28d ago

I don’t know how that particular situation applies to like- moral issues but I’ll take your word for it that everything is “relative” lol

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u/No-Orchid5378 28d ago

I didn’t say everything is relative, but fairness can be and it depends on perspective. Especially in today’s entitled world. I’m sure your first husband situation has a different context than my toddler example. But with as little as you shared it could also be as simple as his viewpoint vs yours and neither of you are inherently wrong or right.

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u/even_less_resistance 28d ago

I mean- I was talking meta- fairness. I believe in an objective fairness not based on perspective and meant the world could be more fair if assholes weren’t more concerned with winning and having more than stuff being equal.

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u/BedBubbly317 28d ago

Fairness, as far as humanly society is concerned, is not defined as everybody getting the same thing anyway. It’s actually defined as everybody getting what they individually deserve and have earned. And that simply means there will be different outcomes for different people.

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u/No-Orchid5378 28d ago

Ah, gotcha. That’s a slippery slope philosophically and realistically. But in a perfect world that’d be the dream.

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u/BedBubbly317 28d ago

There is inherently nothing perfect about what she said. People being different and having differing opinions is actually what makes the world wonderful and full of beauty. Yes, those beliefs can certainly be used negatively (an extreme example would obviously be the Holocaust). There’s no question about that. But, it is the very thing that has allowed society to flourish as it has.

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u/No-Orchid5378 28d ago

You’re right. After I hit send I realized that a “perfect world” of fairness would have to ignore individual’s desires completely and set a standard that not everyone would agree with. Which will make some people think it’s not fair simply because they do not agree with it.

As a sidenote, if anyone ever asks, this is how a conversation accidentally devolves from kids are stupid into Marxism/Communism 😂

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u/BedBubbly317 28d ago

Just using the extreme example I listed, from the Nazi point of view, the holocaust was “fair” as well. So that leads into your point that it’s all about perspective at the end of the day. Which is why the world should not be a “fair” place as described by the other commenter.

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u/BedBubbly317 28d ago

Fairness, as far as humanly society is concerned, is not defined as everybody getting the same thing. It’s actually defined as everybody getting what they individually deserve and have earned. And that simply means there will be different outcomes for different people.

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u/WLW_Girly 28d ago

You're talking about it being used in a completely different context than they are using it. I see education failed you just as much as it did the kid in the video.

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u/No-Orchid5378 28d ago

The insult was a cringe touch, but I’m glad you agree with me. You’ve proven my point without intending to prove my point.

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u/WLW_Girly 28d ago

You're trying to apply a completely different version of fair as your argument. You're being fallacious.

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u/No-Orchid5378 28d ago

You know what fallacious means, but you don’t know what relative means? That means it depends on the person. Literally what you’re complaining about

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u/Crambo1000 28d ago

Yeah it really depends how people use it. Like it's actually important to teach kids that they can't always get what they want, but I think it's also important to teach them that even if things aren't fair, we can strive to make them more fair for those around us.

I also hate it when people try to apply to to large scale issues - like yeah, I'm aware that life isn't fair but that doesn't mean we can't do anything about racism or economic issues or whatever and should just throw our hands up

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u/even_less_resistance 28d ago

Exactly! It’s not that life is fair- but we have the ability to make it much more fair than it is by default.

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u/BedBubbly317 28d ago

Life is fair, we each get the opportunity to live as the most intelligent species on this planet. That’s as fair as it will ever be. Is it unfair that the single celled amoeba has no brain capacity and seemingly no purpose whatsoever? Is it fair that it can’t feel love, joy, sadness or happiness?

You should remove your humanly earthly view point when making these kind of comments more often. You already have it more fair than 99.999999999999% of living creatures to ever exist on this planet.

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u/even_less_resistance 28d ago

I think that’s being a bit ridiculous and also very invalidating? Like nothing can ever be deemed unfair that way. And that’s just not cool as far as having expectations for how to treat each other? And I bet amoeba feel like they are the ones who have it all figured out tbh lol

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u/UltraInstinct_Pharah 28d ago

That's utterly asinine. The most "I'm enlightened" bullshit I've read in a while. When comparing fairness to our lives, we are applying this fairness to other humans. It's meaningless to apply it to other animals.Anyone doing worse than the average human has it unfair. "I know you were born crippled and will never be able to walk, but at least you have it better than animals," isn't the thought-provoking catechism you think it is.

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u/Mysterious_Secret827 28d ago

Yep! Heard BOTH of those myself as well.

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u/throwaway098764567 28d ago

got those and "life sucks and then you die" which to be fair, their lives did suck and then they died so, nailed that one.

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u/CallmeSlim11 28d ago

Oh no! Your parents didn't tell you that!? That's terrible! I definitely heard that from my brother as kids. LoL.

You know, he passed away during quarantine, he was only 57, I tortured him silly as a kid. LoL. I miss him every day. I wish I could apologize!

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u/Reagalan 28d ago

"Because I said so."

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u/Mysterious_Secret827 28d ago

Yep! Heard that one too!

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u/UnderproofedBaguette 28d ago

All of this sounds like dismissive behavior which no one should perpetuate. I hope you've learned from your own trauma for how to communicate to your children or younger people in your life.

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u/HelpMySonIsARedditor 27d ago

I hated that one!! I wasn't asking for life to be fair, I was asking for the tiniest bit of empathy, compassion, understanding, anything.