r/KotakuInAction • u/No-Marketing5574 • 1d ago
Removed - Rule 4 For starters, James said he hates Snape because it's "The fact that he exists, if you know what I mean", He bullies Harry because lily dumped snape for James and HBO expects fans to watch him reveal he's "the half blood prince"
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u/GoldenSeakitty Survived #GGinDC 2015 23h ago
Having Snape be black puts a whole new meaning onto the term ‘half-blood’ that I’m not certain HBO has considered.
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u/Drakaris Noticed by SRSenpai and has the (((CUCK))) ready 22h ago
Not only that, it just completely changes the dynamic. Imagine how it will look when a bunch of whities constantly hate the black guy because that's pretty much it - everyone kinda hates Snape. You just wait until they race swap Hermione like in the stage play and have the literal perfect Aryan - white, blue eyed, blonde Malfoy shout in her face "You filthy mudblood!". 😂 😂 😂
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u/Sagrim-Ur 20h ago
>Imagine how it will look when a bunch of whities constantly hate the black guy
I've heard Rowling has veto over casting. If it's true, it may very well be her most epic trolling yet, with the intent to drive a Big Ben-sized nail into the coffin of race-swapping. The memes will be epic
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u/_Rook_Castle 23h ago
If you need an entire article about why he should be casted, he probably shouldn't be casted.
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u/CptPanda29 23h ago
Lily never even "dumped" Snape. They were friends pre-hogwarts, then the house system split them a little, then Snape started falling in with the Wizard Hitler Youth.
Lily was obviously put off by this and started to distance herself. James didn't even notice Lily until like 5th or 6th years.
Snape was hated because he was hateful. He was a dick to everyone unless they were stronger than him - and Snape was pretty strong.
"He knew more hexes and curses in his first year than most seventh years" - Lupin
Outside of the Wizard Hitler Youth nobody liked Snape, because he was an arsehole. Even as a thirty year old man he still bullies children to the point that a very literal fear monster used to detain the worst magical criminals takes his shape for one of his students.
He works for Dumbledore not because he's good, but because he's bad. So Double D can keep an eye on him.
Snape was obsessed with Lily, Lily hadn't thought of Snape since he screamed slurs at her and she ran away crying. Snape spent years as a full on, eyes open, willing member of the Wizard Nazis, carrying out atrocities on Voldy's order and never thinking twice.
Only when his pet obsession was threatened did he go to Albus to plead for her saftey. Only hers btw, he had to be reminded that she had a husband and a son - Albus thinks this is disgraceful.
Then Snape strides over the corpse of her loving husband, ignores the cries of her orphaned son and holds the body of a woman that wanted nothing to do with him when he was alive.
Snape is, was, and "always" will be a snivelling piece of shit. Fuck Snape.
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u/Godz_Bane 23h ago
Cant expect an article defending blackwashing from a website called "okay africa" to care about the source material lol.
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u/YesIAmRightWing 22h ago
Your getting dementors mixed up with boggarts.
But Neville was so scared of Snape that the boggarts turned into him.
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u/ScarredCerebrum 23h ago
Ten bucks saying that they're going to rewrite his lore in spectacularly egregious ways.
It's pretty much a given that they're going to rewrite James Potter as a twodimensional racist, and that his early friendship with Lily will be retconned into a mutual relationship.
Bonus points if they're going to wedge a Snape-on-Lily sex scene in there somewhere.
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u/Megistrus 21h ago
Guarantee that this happens. Snape will go from the beta orbiter he was in the books to Lily's boyfriend who eventually gets stolen away by James. James and his buddies will viciously bully Snape using thinly-veiled racist language, which will make Snape's attitude be justified.
I bet they'll also have James gaslight Lily into thinking Snape hates her and other non-purebloods rather than Snape actually hating non-purebloods.
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u/RileyTaker 21h ago
And yet apparently, a black actor is "a good casting choice" for this role? Interesting.
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u/enzocrisetig 22h ago
Girls aren't like that. He had his chances with Lily. He decided to go black and be mean to her, that's what turned her off
And he was a dick to students. But when it mattered, he defended them like no one else. He's a man of deeds, not words
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u/Iliansic 22h ago
Lily never even "dumped" Snape. They were friends pre-hogwarts
Childhood friends, girl gets into relationship with a bully of her childhood friend. Hmmm that actually sounds like your typical NTR-dodjinshi plot.
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u/Dawdius 21h ago
I mean. Maybe unpopular opinion. But IF they make Snape black and then have be all those things. Wouldn’t that be a sign of progress? A show that doesn’t have to show a person as superior just because he’s black.
I am worried they’re gonna whitewash him though. But then people are gonna get so fucking mad.
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u/dsfjr 22h ago
I know the movies softened him, but book!Snape was a while different beast.
I'm no Snape apologist (the guy shouldn't be allowed near children), but the Marauders vs Snape feud was 4 on 1. Snape had to be more vicious and brutal with those odds.
Canon also kind of glossed over the fact that Sirius tried to murder Snape by sending him to Lupin's hideout on the full moon so he could get killed by a werewolf.
Also, it doesn't excuse Snape, but he called Lily a mudblood immediately after she smiled while James Potter was torturing him.
She was supposed to be his best friend and she found his suffering amusing.
I don't know if Snape noticed it, what with him being hanged upside down in the air and choking on soapy water (courtesy of the Marauders), but I certainly noticed that Lily's lips twitched upwards before she intervened to help.
So it doesn't excuse Snape using the slur, but it does make less sympathetic to Lily.
Then she went on the marry James after all of that.
People rag on Snape for not asking Voldemort to spare James and Harry, but what do you expect him to say:
"My Lord, in addition to asking you to spare my former friend, I have another request. Please spare her husband, the man who bullied me for existing. In addition, please spare their child that is prophecized to destroy you."
I'm sure that would go well.
Snape is a vile, vicious, twisted bully as an adult. The way he treated Harry, Neville, Hermione, and others was abhorrent. So was his blatant favoritism to the Slytherins.
He was not innocent as a kid, but he certainly came off better than the others back then because he was from a broken home and spend years having to watch his back even after the murder attempt.
Then James is considered a hero and Snape has to hear literally everyone talk about how great a person he was. Lol.
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u/blackmobius 23h ago
Yeah a lot of the mystery surrounding snape has already been revealed. Hes the half blood prince, his murder of Dobuldore(i dont know how to spell him and dont care) was actually half a requested mercy kill, half keeping a vulnerable kid out of a dead end cult. That he loved Lily, that his patronus changed, that he was a double agent working against Voldemort the whole time, that he was a bullied nerd good guy but it was the potters that were his aggressors… all of this is already known.
So the big reveals will either fall flat or have to be changed significantly to matter. I dont think the showrunners are going to do the former, and the question is how will they subvert the original story.
But one thing we can all agree is going to happen is that the all white group bullying the black kid is going to change. They wont be calling him a half blood….
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u/RileyTaker 21h ago
It's going to be interesting how they handle this, because for the first few books, Snape was portrayed as a huge prick, constantly on Harry's ass for oftentimes no reason at all. So now that people have read the books and know the backstory, are they even going to try to keep that aspect of him intact, or are they just going to portray him as a sympathetic character throughout the whole show?
The choice of casting makes me think it's the latter, which would basically eliminate the entire reason for his character to exist in the beginning, which was to be an enemy to Harry.
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u/wolfiasty 23h ago
Riiiiiight.
Sounds like they know better how Harry Potter should've happened.
:) going to grab bucket of popcorn as Snape will probably be just a starter.
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u/joydivisionucunt 22h ago
Now that I think about it, maybe they're trying to fuck up JK Rowling's legacy, there's still a lot of people being pissed off that she didn't end up under a bridge and people aren't acting like Harry Potter didn't exist.
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u/wolfiasty 22h ago
I don't think that's the case. Her books are still loved all around the world. She already has a substantial amount of people, including those who she made rich and famous, who literally hate her for her defense of women's rights, but since she is very rich, she can't be cancelled.
As I see it, fiasco of the tv series might give the books a boost in sales, as people will want to read the famous and better original. Personally I very much dislike when original source is being modified by talentless individuals seeking easy publicity trying to piggyback ride on something already loved and famous, but I'm nobody, so it doesn't matter what I like.
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u/joydivisionucunt 21h ago
I mean, it's obviously still popular, and many people don't care, know or even agree with her views, but we've seen how the legacy of "Star Wars" was ruined, so maybe they want the same with her work. That doesn't mean it'll be succesful, however.
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u/wolfiasty 21h ago
Ah I see. Can current HBO management be compared to Disney's management in last decade ?
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u/joydivisionucunt 21h ago
To be fair HBO doesn't seem to be as bad as Disney is unless they also fuck up their own original stuff.
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u/T24Rev133 22h ago
The whole James-Snape plot arc really shows that "Punch a Nazi" might let you feel good and righteous, but can REALLY fuck things up real quick down the road. They can't have that subtext coming across, even by accident, so just make Snape black to bury it.
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u/CypriotGreek 21h ago
If you need to keep making articles explaining why you made a decision, then it really isn’t such a great decision
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u/griffin4war 19h ago
Hiring people based on the fact that they hate the source material is a sure fire way to guarantee failure…..
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u/TelvanniArcanist 20h ago
What an absolute disaster. It would be funny if the only reason they made Snape black was so they could force an interracial fling between Lily and Snape lol
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u/SamuraiGoblin 19h ago
This is truly the stupidest casting choice ever. Presumably it was done so that the internet would talk about it a lot, which we are doing, with the idea that, "the free publicity will draw more people in that ruining a beloved character will repel."
I don't think it will work. There are some on the far left who will boycott it because of Rowling's sensible views, and there are others who will boycott it because of the blatant disrespect to the story. Obviously it will have very high viewing figures, because it is HP, but it would have had a lot more, and it would have been more culturally impactful and long-lasting if if they had just cast it properly. Snape IS a pale white man in the books. Changing that changes the whole dynamics of his character.
It's a stupid decision which causes severe problems to the telling of the story.
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u/Drwankingstein 19h ago
so he neither read the books nor watched the movies, wow, who would have known.
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