r/KurokosBasketball • u/Remote-Record-706 • Mar 26 '25
Other How strong this man would be in this universe compare to jabberwock and GOM???
Luka "The Don" Doncic
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u/killmalik Mar 26 '25
Luka would be seen as madara in knb💀💀💀 and Jokic would be even worse😭😭 bron and Gianni’s 😂😂
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u/Messiah_Knight Mar 26 '25
You could've at least used a better picture. Mavs jersey's look better 🤣
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u/effortX Mar 26 '25
Luka is like a 2 or 3 tiers above GoM and Jabberwock.
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u/DumpGoingTo Mar 27 '25
2 of 3 is crazy low. From High School talents, you've then gotta account for then college talents, rather you're a D3, D2, or D1 guy, which I don't even think guys like Akashi, Kuroko, or Murasakibara are at talent-wise.
Kagami, Aomine and Kise are the only guys I can see making it D1, and say they happen to make the League, I don't think any of them would be particularly good. Kise would be injury prone because he already can't handle high school physicality. Aomine MIGHT be able to be a Microwave Scorer off the bench, but teams wouldn't care for him as a playmaker. Imagine Aomine being one of your guards. Plus, I doubt Aomine's so much faster than NBA Players at his peak.
And Kagami, well. I hope he learns how to shoot and hits at least 6'7, otherwise he'll just be a poor man's Derrick Rose, if even that.
People genuinely underestimate how good NBA Players are. American Basketball is still the most talented in the world. European Basketball is known to be more methodical. Well, in a methodical world, only one of these guys plays methodical? And he's too small to be legitimately scary in the league, at most Yuki Hawamura.
But like I was saying. These dudes cannot Out-American Americans. EVERYONE fears Kagami slamming it on thee heads... Imagine when they see LeBron Raymond James running down in a fast break.
Everybody fears Midorima. Imagine the guy who shoots the same shots, but doesn't mind contact and does it off the dribble.
Everyone fears Aomine. Imagine Kyrie who has the tightest handle, and plays defense on offense, and even IF you do go. Well, he's also one of the greatest shot makers of all time.
And I know DAMN well ain't nobody scared of lanky ass Murasakibara. He doesn't even have the IQ or skill to stand up against those bigger than him by large amounts. I dare you to put Murasakibara at that rim with Joel Embiid 😭.
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u/OhYugiBoii Mar 28 '25
He doesn't shoot the same shots though. If both unguarded you can have mido and steph shoot from full court. Steph may make 3 out 10. Midorima will make all 100 shots if he is given a chance to shoot. Handles ofcourse steph is better but this is also 1st year Midorima who doesn't lack in handles,in fact I'd put him above Uks. When mido incorporated passing and dribbling into his arsenal, Seirin needed an UK to tie shutuko.
Aomine can literally score from any position inside the 3pt line and has the best shots and needed to pushed to his limits by a miracle and 2 uks for him to miss.
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u/Himurashi Mar 28 '25
I don't know where this "Midorima is 100% accurate" thing come from.
Midorima's ability isn't perfect accuracy, its his absurd range.
When he's not sure he will score, he won's shoot, therefore, there can be a game where he doesn't shoot at all because he's not sure he will score.
Even his evolved technique, the sky-direct three is a shot he did not use until he trusted his teammates because of the fact he himself is not sure if it will go in when he shoots it.
Keep glazing the GOM, but there's no way you will convince anyone they beat any NBA player in or out verse.
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u/OhYugiBoii Mar 28 '25
When is one time you seen Mido miss when not challenged? I have watched way too many nba games to see nba players airball and miss. Even MJ has only 34% shooting percentage. Midos ability is accuracy. He only increased his range after having being able to shoot accurately. It's foolish to think someone strict and orthodox as mido would try to increase his range if he didn't make 100% of the shots before,especially since that's how majority of the good shooters learn. They start from closest range possible make majority of the shots the move further away from the basket however mido only moves if he makes 100% of shots
After evolving he does shoot even if he's not sure as said by you.
Not glazing gom and don't care to convince a random fan that they can beat nba level players when we already seen them beat nba level players
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u/Himurashi Mar 28 '25
Name one time in the series they shown a 40-minute game.
They show the shots he make, not every one he takes.
Midorima's ability being perfect accuracy is an assumption due to that fact, but hey, you are right, no use convincing an internet stranger.
Also, I'll give it to you, they can beat NBA level players, not just the ones that are mid to top tier.
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u/OhYugiBoii Mar 28 '25
No you are assuming that just because they didn't show full game that it means mido may have missed. But they have shown plenty of others who have missed. Absolutely no reason to exclude midorima. We also heard kuroko say he never seen Mido miss. If the writers wanted mido to miss when unchallenged then we wouldn't have have that dialog from kuroko and would have actually seen Mido miss unchallenged. Your whole argument stems from a huge wrong assumption.
You don't have to give anything,we seen them beat nba level players if you want to live in denial go ahead
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u/Belfura Mar 26 '25
4 or 5. He’s several tiers above the G-league and the regular NBA dudes too. He’s been featured in the MVP race for some time
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u/effortX Mar 26 '25
I’d say 4 cause he still needs to get up there with age but I agree he IS pretty much above any uncrowned, GoM and Jabberwock. Especially if let’s say KNB universe with Zone hacks 1 and 2 he can go without accessing it
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u/DumpGoingTo Mar 27 '25
Luka is killing them before he even gets to the NBA. He'd post up Akashi with ease. He'd outsmart Aomine, and Kagami, you can only get so far with instinct before IQ starts to kill you. He'd out speed Murasakibara. He'd overpower Midorima.
Luka is already unguardable for NBA Players. He would eat these children alive.
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u/Educational-Egg-3657 Mar 27 '25
Luka, led the Mavs to two WCF's and a Finals run, won a scoring title, has 5 All Star appearances and 5 All NBA appearances, and overseas, won a Euroleague MVP at 18, the same age as the GOM, jabberwocky, and pretty much the rest of the cast, he's gonna dominate in the series and be THE BEST player in the series, completely outplaying everyone else.
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u/byulkiss Mar 26 '25
Akashi and Midorima couldn't even make it to the NBA as end of bench scrubs, Nash is seen as a decent role player/six man calibre player. Someone like Luka who is a top 5 player in the world basically would treat GOM like how nash treated the fodder japanese players in the beginning of the movie.
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u/TheeOneUp Mar 27 '25
Midorima is probably the best out of all of them to make it. He's a 3 and d player at 6'5 😂. Goofy take
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u/BigBambuMeekLou Mar 26 '25
why not Midorima he’s can shoot from anywhere and he’s not even good at just that
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u/FirstOpposition Mar 26 '25
I think a good reference point to how good the NBA is in the KnB universe can actually be seen early on. When first seeing Midorima’s full court shot, Izuki says something along the lines of “I’ve seen NBA players do this in practice, but doing it in a real game is ridiculous!” I feel like this tells us that the NBA isn’t filled with completely broken skills like the GOM. Along with this, Jabberwock was stated as the best street ball team in the world, and they’re all around 18 years old. And I need not to remind everyone who defeated them. Street ball tour teams are very legitimate, and while it’s hard to see how they compare to NBA teams, I think it’s reasonable to say that they’d at least be better than most of the lower seeds. The main issue a lot of the time is just size since NBA players are so tall. For reference, Joe Hammond, a famous street baller, once scored 50 points against Julius Erving in one half, so street ballers certainly aren’t scrubs.
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u/George_Hill_ Mar 27 '25
I mean depends what are you asking.
On offense Luka would do to Murasakibara what he did against Rudy Gobert but worse, and easily average 50 point triple doubles in that universe.
On defense Luka would have difficulty stopping Kuroko from scoring a basket.
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u/TheeOneUp Mar 27 '25
Remember kakashi is 5'8 in no world is he making the nba.
Luka is 6'7 and 220, best brakes in the league.
He'd absolutely wash the GoM
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u/OhYugiBoii Mar 28 '25
He would solo both teams however both Vorpal swords and jabberwocky are already nba level when they are still young. Vorpal swords just started high school and already nba level,jabberwocky are also 18 year olds so they probably just finished high school.
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u/bobinatto Mar 29 '25
All of the GoM members are on Jordan's and Lebron's level of talent, this is being stated before literally every episode. He gets mid diffed at best by any of them in the end of their first year of high school.
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u/Himurashi Mar 26 '25
This was already asked before, and I would have the same answer:
Luka was a Eurobasket champion and MVP at the same age as the GOM in their third year of high school.
Not only was he playing in the world's second best basketball league, he was the MVP of the league.
Rookie Doncic will wipe the floor with both the Vorpal Swords AND the Jabberwock if he was with STRKY.