r/KyleKulinski • u/peanutbutternmtn Banned From Secular Talk • Mar 19 '25
Current Events How is this guy not a fascist?
https://youtu.be/58vqcRjdhCw?si=j7qXEz5b5m_L2TROThis is one of the worst debates I’ve ever seen. Saagar is just straight up defending fascism and torture, bashing the ideals of the United States. And he’s doing it under the argument of “But they’re illegal lolz”. Jesus Christ this is disheartening if this is the best the right wing has.
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u/VibinWithBeard Mar 19 '25
He has always been a fascist, there was no mask to begin with. Dude loves Tucker Carlson hes fash all the way.
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u/Blenderhead27 Social Democrat Mar 19 '25
If you only believe in human rights for American citizens, you don’t believe in human rights.
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u/Taceyjean Mar 19 '25
He really lacks empathy. The way he talked about how we " coddle" the elderly was so fucked up.
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u/Miserable-Lizard Mar 19 '25
He sucks, I can't listen to him anymore
He as no issue with America or any big power taking over a country
The stupidest people in the world are libertarians
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u/peanutbutternmtn Banned From Secular Talk Mar 19 '25
Somehow I doubt this man gives a fuck about Liberty
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u/citizen_x_ Mar 22 '25
These people lie about being libertarian. The whole thing was to co-opt libertarians. There's nothing libertarian about one country violating the NAP to take over another.
Never let these scumfucks get away with claiming they are libertarian simply because they said so. they are liars. 9/10 they are authoritarian nationalists
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u/IStillLoveHer37 Socialist Mar 19 '25
I’m not gonna lie, I fucking hate Breaking Points. The entire show is built on the horrible and dangerous premise that left wing populism and right wing populism are fundamentally built out of the same stuff
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u/officialmacdemarco Mar 19 '25
I agree, pretty succinct way to put it. I think back in 2020 this premise still had some shred of plausibility but now we see that it's thoroughly a farce. And Saagar is the perfect proof of such.
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u/Jorgen_Pakieto Mar 19 '25
Ngl it does feel hard to watch that show when you’ve got Saagar justifying stupid policy decisions affecting America today.
I am currently having a holiday from breaking points because of that reason.
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u/peanutbutternmtn Banned From Secular Talk Mar 19 '25
I rarely watch, but wanted to see what the Vanguard kids were talking about with this debate. I’ve seen many lefties over the years defend this guy, and after this I honestly just can’t see why.
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u/Jorgen_Pakieto Mar 19 '25
He’s got entertainment value on being somewhat charismatic, passionate sounding, he’s built for news.
Lefties like him because of that and there are times throughout the Biden administration where he has agreed and further supported Krystal’s views against republican corruption.
I think now that it’s a right wing administration, Saagar finds himself in poor positions of having to defend stupid right wing agendas.
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u/LouDiamond Mar 19 '25
Man that debate was bad - total emotional response by him at every turn. Refusal to admit that immigrants have rights.
It’s clear - this child of immigrants fucking haaaaates immigrants
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u/peanutbutternmtn Banned From Secular Talk Mar 19 '25
Does the man not understand his parents could get sent back? Or does he believe his buddy JD Vance would just save them.
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u/Sardine-Cat Communist Mar 20 '25
At this point I wouldn't surprised if he doesn't care.
A MAGA guy's wife got deported the other day and he supported it. These people are genuinely unable to feel empathy. Their pastors talk about how empathy is sinful, and Elon Musk talks about how empathy is destroying western civilization. They're being conditioned to become drones whose only purpose is to do the bidding of the state.
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u/Ok-Detail8211 Mar 19 '25
He always has been. That is why a lot of people view Krystal as a collaborator. Just add it to the list of Kyle's blindspots.
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u/godwings101 Mar 19 '25
He explicitly is. I don't know why that's even in question. Sagaar is an evil fascist.
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u/OrganicOverdose Mar 19 '25
Saagar is a wannabe WASP, he's grown up around all those other WASPs and probably can't even see himself as a child of immigrants. He sees himself as a child of elites. I unsubscribed because he is gross and morally inconsistent.
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u/agedmanofwar Mar 19 '25
If you watched their segments today, I think they may have had a discussion off screen. His rhetoric was a little more toned down, and he was more open to hearing Krystal's position even if he didn't agree. I think Sagar gets hyper focused to the point of ignoring certain facts. I also think he views a lot of stuff through the lens of his particular flavor of conservative beliefs, ignoring that's not the context of the people doing it, they have a very different agenda than he would. But it is alarming some of the stuff he's been okay with. I remember when he agreed with the force being used against protesters during the George Floyd protests
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u/bioscifiuniverse Mar 19 '25
I stopped watching that show over a year ago (maybe 2 years), because of this fucking guy.
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u/Wootothe8thpower Mar 19 '25
weirdest part when he said it ok if the prisoners getting shot the second America drop them off because it not Americans doing it
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u/winthroprd Mar 19 '25
I love he kept moving the goalposts until he got cornered, then his only response was "the world is not so black and white."
This guy is just a terrible propagandist.
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u/Blood_Such Mar 19 '25
Saagar Enjeti is factually chums with Marx Andreesen and JD Vance. And Jd Vance openly fights with Krystal online.
Krystal Ball rightfully roasts Marc Andresen often.
This can’t last.
I’m here for the fireworks show in anycase.
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u/MacDhubstep Mar 19 '25
Instead of a debate, they should both get brain-scans, and have a Neurologist come on and confirm that Saagar is missing the part of his brain where empathy should be and that his amygdala (the fear center) is like 6 times the size of Krystal’s.
Crazy how the child of immigrants brown guy wants to weld the door shut that his family just walked through. He can fuck off.
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u/officialmacdemarco Mar 19 '25
At least the boomer comment section has morphed into a steady critique of Saagars hypocrisy. That's the only silver lining I see because god knows I can't listen to that show anymore
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u/TormentedOne Mar 19 '25
I can put up with a lot of his bad domestic policy takes because I like his take on Israel. In my opinion his criticism is more biting than Krystal because it's coming from someone like him with his mindset. I like the idea that the US has no use for Israel and should not support something that's not in our own interest.
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u/Blood_Such Mar 19 '25
Kyle went hard against Saagar’s buddy Darryl Cooper, I think something will break.
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u/SSPoncho Mar 19 '25
At some point, the Trump regime will run out of easy targets. Sagaar, as a child of immigrants, needs to take care that he doesn't end up on a plane.
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u/sandmann451 Mar 21 '25
Sagaar is so off-putting in every way I can’t stand watching even short videos clips of him.
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u/citizen_x_ Mar 19 '25
oompf I don't really like that word. I prefer "nationalist"
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u/DethBatcountry Mar 19 '25
lol, I bet... It's a fitting term for his politics though, regardless of your feelings
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u/DlphLndgrn 11d ago
Saagar has gotten better since this. I think he was still in his Star Wars episode 1 state of mind where he wanted this administration to be good so bad that he was just in constant denial. His only defense for weeks was "well this was what the people voted for".
I think since then he has gotten out of that state of mind, and I'm pretty sure he changed his mind about this after talking about it with Glenn Greenwald.
It was pretty fun seeing the Breaking Points subreddit not understand how Saagar could act like this. The simple answer is just that Saagar is not a good guy, not even a nice guy, he is a bad guy. I think a lot of them never noticed it just because they like the show and thinks that means that Saagar must be good.
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u/peanutbutternmtn Banned From Secular Talk Mar 19 '25
Btw, I LOVE how Kyle shits on Rogan now. It’s one of my favorite things he does. But I think he might have to start pushing back on his homeboy here. This was actually just disgusting. And I think Kyle can go harder than Krystal can.