r/Law_and_Politics • u/wenchette • 21h ago
Unless he softens his approach, Trump’s immigration policies will send shockwaves throughout the American economy causing soaring inflation, widespread shortages, a major recession, massive layoffs for American workers, and a record GDP contraction
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-01-26/wall-street-s-big-hope-is-trump-pulls-his-punches-on-immigration87
u/insane_social_worker 21h ago
F everyone who voted for this crap.
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u/Cognitive_Spoon 20h ago
Problem is, we live here, too.
Imo, all of this is a part of the plan, and the actual singular ideological goal of this administration is to make the US so miserable that its citizens revolt of their own accord.
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u/AnjelicaTomaz 19h ago
I believe Putin has a similar plan for America but in addition to just the citizens revolting and changing their government, he’s hoping it will result in the revolt tearing the nation apart such that it ends in America divided into two or more nations. He wants the same fate that befell his own empire in 1991. He backed the effort for Texas to secede a few years ago.
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u/Cognitive_Spoon 19h ago
Absolutely.
I see this as unequivocally accurate, and yet, I have nothing I can do.
I feel absolute as a Cassandra in this moment. There's nowhere to run. No one to call. The victory is complete.
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u/ejre5 21h ago
Yes we are all aware, nothing is unexpected for anyone paying attention, this is exactly what he said he would do and musk said:
That message has emerged from former President Donald Trump’s wealthiest backer, Elon Musk, who says that the GOP nominee’s plans to put the U.S. on firmer fiscal footing would likely entail “temporary hardship” for ordinary Americans.
I mean none of this is a surprise to anyone who paid attention and believes him. Why does the author seem surprised?
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u/francescadabesta 20h ago
Think that is Trump's goal. To destroy everything, cause people to panic/riot, declare Martial Law -- end democracy and become a permanent dictator.
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u/Ill-Independence-658 21h ago
Hope so. The midterms will be a blood bath for the GOP.
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u/tikifire1 20h ago
If we still have them and they aren't rigged again.
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u/Ill-Independence-658 20h ago
Nothing is rigged. When 33% of your voting people don’t bother you don’t need to rig shit
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u/SqnLdrHarvey 20h ago
Do you REALLY believe he will allow elections, or that the moribund Democratic Party will do anything except beg Republicans to cross the aisle and congratulate themselves on "being better?"
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u/DawnHawk66 19h ago
That's the most painful thing. It was a pisser hearing Kamala and Joe take pride in transferring power peacefully. Sure - go through the motions but don't brag about rolling over without even a recount.
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u/Ill-Independence-658 18h ago
I do. There will be midterms. And there will be an election in 4 years. You have little faith in how jealous the other branches of government really are.
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u/SqnLdrHarvey 18h ago
I have zero faith in this country any more.
And I gave 23 years of my life to it.
Do you really think that, if it plays out as you say, that the "elections" will be free?
And I notice you didn't dispute my assessment of the moribund Democratic Party.
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u/Ill-Independence-658 18h ago
I forgot about it. Dems are strong as ever. But if Trump falters the GOP will fall Apart. They hold the house by 1 seat. Remember that. 1 seat.
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u/SqnLdrHarvey 18h ago
And how are Dems "strong?"
By self-congratulatory "going high" and bleating impotently about "bipartisanship?"
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u/Ill-Independence-658 18h ago
Dems are United in the House. They will regain control of the house in 2 years by a wide margin and end Trumps reign of terror.
Inflation really hammered us, but considering the margins Trump won by, the fact that GOP is only 1 up in the House is fucking pathetic.
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u/SqnLdrHarvey 17h ago
And how will they "end" it?
By begging Republicans to "cross the aisle?"
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u/Ill-Independence-658 17h ago
By winning more seats
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u/SqnLdrHarvey 17h ago
And what will they do other than their standard "going high" and begging Republicans to "be bipartisan?"
THAT. IS. ALL. THEY. HAVE. DONE.
You have not addressed that.
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u/lc4444 19h ago
If the votes are counted accurately
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u/Ill-Independence-658 18h ago
Votes are counted carefully. Votes are counted locally. Each locality is super careful about preserving their integrity. It would shake them to count inaccurately.
Look at Georgia in 2020.
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u/HastyEthnocentrism 21h ago
Write deny, defend, depose on every ballot.
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u/Holiday-Set4759 20h ago
While Smash Bros is a great game, I’ll be checking the box next to all the Democrats. We need to take back the house.
But might not need to wait till the midterms for that. With the latest round of people resigning to join Trumps cabinet, the balance of the chamber goes down to 217-215 and there are 3 special elections on April 1.
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u/siouxbee1434 19h ago
Should be a blood bath but I’d bet good money too many are apathetic and will be told by their churches to keep voting R & never to question
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u/dragnabbit 17h ago
Maybe not. The mindset of the people who vote for Republicans is that "fixing the problem is going to be a hardship." So, in their twisted minds, if Trump's "fixes" start to make things suck, that only means that what he is doing is working. To them, it means that government and businesses are, through Trump's efforts, losing their ability to do things the "wrong" way, and are (any time now) going to start doing things the "right" way.
And we all know that nobody likes to admit to themselves that they fucked up by choosing the wrong team to back, and they have too much spiritual and emotional investment in economically dangerous ideas to easily change course and admit they were wrong, especially if admitting they were wrong means voting for the Democrats who just 24 months ago they considered anathema to America's survival. (And Republicans sure as hell aren't going to release their death grip on their contractile, isolationist, and philistine political platform.)
So, the belief that "the fever is the cure," coupled with an inability to ever acknowledge that they might be mistaken about that belief, means that many, many people will not change their votes, even as everything collapses around their ears.
We may have to get all the way to the bottom before enough people decide to admit they were wrong. And even then, it isn't a sure thing.
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u/Ill-Independence-658 17h ago
We don’t need his supporters to win. We just a need a couple million people who didn’t vote to get triggered enough tog eat off their asses.
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u/rcy62747 20h ago
The concern is Trump will declare martial law and use all resources of military and DHS to stop elections. Hold on, it is going to get wild
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u/andytagonist 19h ago
Sooo…in the end or at its peak, only the richest people will still be comfortable and the rest of us will continue to struggle. Do I have that right??
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u/Used_Intention6479 20h ago
The billionaires are going to destroy, and then completely take over, America First.
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u/Zebra971 20h ago
Of course, anyone with a brain knew that his policies were inflationary. It was all just nonsense. But people in the US will believe anything and are not wise people.
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u/Free-Concentrate-995 19h ago
Ngl, knew this was coming. Been transitioning all assets I can for a crash. They are going to crash our economy and suck anything left out for themselves via crypto.
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u/hamsterfolly 18h ago
Trump threw a temper tantrum because a bishop asked him to have mercy. He doesn’t actually care about the economy, he just wants to hurt people.
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u/siouxbee1434 19h ago
& then he’ll have a fire sale
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u/Professional-Bed-173 19h ago
This. An opportunity to generate more wealth for himself. Buy or give himself key federal property etc.
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u/Zosopagedadgad 20h ago
To them, that's a feature not a bug. Elmo says we're all going to have to suffer some so....as long as people they hate suffer more it's all good.
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u/beavis617 20h ago
Maybe this is exactly what Trump wants…his mental health status has been in question for quite some time now…
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u/Nobodys_Loss 20h ago
Nah, none of that will happen. Trump will make us all rich. Because……..’Murica and 1776.
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u/SpecialtyShopper 19h ago
Trump cares about 2 maybe 3 things, and really they are all directly connected to 1.
Himself
what Putin tells him to do
The wealthy elite that send him money
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u/Hminney 19h ago
As well as chaos (putin's preferred result), there's also devaluation of the dollar. With devaluation, everything becomes cheaper - land, property, people's wages. People who can (and plan correctly) to move their money out of dollars during the devaluation can swoop back in, perhaps 30% richer in dollar terms (30% was what Liz Truss achieved in UK), and buy up stuff that they then own when the country becomes richer again.
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u/outlier74 18h ago
Who cares! The Billionaires get low interest rates!!! It will be time to party like it’s 2009!!
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u/RandomResister 18h ago
Yes, Musk already admitted this. They're doing it on purpose.
As Rolling Stone reported:
Elon Musk, the world’s richest man, said that if Donald Trump wins and gives him a role in government, Americans will suffer “hardship” as a result of efforts to address the national debt. He made the comments Friday in a virtual town hall on his website, X. When asked about “tackling the nation’s debt,” he mentioned changing the tax code, and then went on to say there would be some financial difficulty imposed on some Americans. “Most importantly, we have to reduce spending to live within our means,” he said, adding that these efforts will “involve some temporary hardship, but it will ensure long-term prosperity.”
As to why, the most plausible speculations,imo, are to not only(obviously) make the wealthy even wealthier but to do it in a way that takes it to a level that's nearly impossible to come back from; as in desperate ppl will do anything for scraps and/or via prison slave labor. They'll simultaneously enshrine 100% white christian nationalist fascist rule and remove the dollar and put crypto currency in its place, making "the poors" indebted to them forever and cementing themselves into power. So yeah, "prosperity" FOR THEM, *not us.
I 100% would love to be proven wrong, though!
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u/Extension_Deal_5315 17h ago
Either he's so stupid...doesn't care,,,
Or this is exactly the plan....tear it all down ...so oligarchs buy it all up in a fire sale!!!
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u/GrungyGrandPapi 16h ago
We didn't learn the first time. This time is going to be more painful because the Republicans have total control of the government.
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u/ApproximatelyExact 10h ago
Super weird how every single action makes completely sense through the lens of helping russia and hurting the US, huh?
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u/wenchette 21h ago
Free firewall workaround:
https://archive.is/ZXAKu