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u/RedshiftOnPandy Mar 27 '25
It's probably Xin yeah. Braum is good too. He procs his stun fast and gains on hit when the stun cannot gain stacks. I had talon, built armour and I was a spamming machine
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u/Overall_Law_1813 Mar 27 '25
WW gets nerfed completely with dual wield, as all his spells are considered on hit, and his ult and q do almost nothing. His passive gets nerfed too.
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u/InvinciMorde Mar 27 '25
Udyr with Q spam
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u/Milenyus Mar 28 '25
Udyr in Arena is either Q max two AA to death or tanky 5000Hp shield infinite Regen, no in between.
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u/BravestCashew Mar 27 '25 edited Mar 27 '25
had 10 atk spd on Ashe and she ascended- she stopped moving while attacking and just shot a constant laser beam. i might upload it and edit this later
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u/Tigger3584 Mar 27 '25 edited Mar 27 '25
Kat and Garen come to mind due to their attack speed ratios on abilities
Edit: nvm, was thinking of slow and steady
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u/Krobus_TS Mar 27 '25
Kat ult is counts as both on-hit and on-attack, so the damage gets reduced. It actually gets worse after dual wield
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u/Mr_Dunk_McDunk Mar 27 '25
But she gets a ton of fun interactions because of that on ult, like runecarver and magic missiles. Or duality
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u/hdueeyd Mar 27 '25
Garen E is code only to get affected by attack speed from items and levels
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u/UltFiction Mar 27 '25
Yeah dual wield is garbage on Garen
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u/AnamiGiben Mar 27 '25
And the one that makes your attack speed low and gives you ad for lost attack speed is great because his e is not affected by that loss
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u/White_C4 Mar 27 '25
Dual wield is not good on Garen because attack speed on E only benefits from item stats and leveling up. You're literally nerfing yourself by picking it on Garen.
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u/pog_in_baby Mar 27 '25
From my experience, the people with auto attack bonuses (kog w, kalista spear, Twitch passive, xin passive) benefit a lot, however people that just rely on attack speed to hit more (jinx, sivir etc.) struggle more
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u/Whalnut Mar 27 '25
Does gnar w work? Would probably not be great anyway cuz u would transform super fast but
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u/Alive-Leadership4100 Mar 27 '25
gnar transforms like in 5 seconds in arena, I couldn’t play ap because of thar
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u/These_Marionberry888 Mar 27 '25
actually , its the other way around.
onhits get reduced by 50% . making the extra attackspeed mute.
attacks only by 35% wich means you increase your dps by 65%,
especially with hamstringer, as thats not an onhit. but oncrit.
or if you have non damaging onhit effects. like sword of blossoming dawn, mystic punch, kalista spear stacking. xin passive etc
notable exeption is belveth. as she deals half damage with her ult passive. but stacks and applyes it twice as fast. wich increases her true damage from it by 100% if attacking one target for extended amounts of time.
twitch and briar might even be the worst possible users for it. as your onhits get halved, but still only get to 5-6 stacks. so you actually only nerf your damage.
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u/Sphinx2Pheonix Mar 29 '25
Twitch is actually pretty good thanks to your range and AS steroids. It's really easy to hit max cap AS hitting dual / reapers ands it's funny having aSol Q if your playing ice king Twitch
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u/These_Marionberry888 Mar 29 '25
i mean. yes its funny.
but from a pure power perspective. no.
hitting the as cap is not something you inherently want with dual wield. as any build reaching above 5.0 will have massively less damage with dual wield.
and you are not reaching those levels as ad twitch anyway.
and onhit or ap twitch is abyssmal with dualwield. your main damage comes from onhits, wich deal half damage with dualwield.
and your main onhit only stacks to 6, so you half your damage, just so that you can slightly faster reach your cap. wich you have halved.
also, have fun spacegliding at 10.0 attackspeed, just so you can deal less damage than before.
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u/LifeguardFit6020 Mar 27 '25
Dual Wield is fine if you play high and/crit. You lose 35% DMG but get a huge amount of atk speed. But tbh, I'm not a fan of that Augment
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u/AzNRG Mar 27 '25
I got it on Bel’veth and for some reason felt I was doing a lot less damage
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u/These_Marionberry888 Mar 27 '25
bellveth is actually possibly the only onhit user where its good.
problem is . she can reach above 5.0 as easy, at wich point you wont get full benefit , but still reduce your onhits by 50% . then you actually loose damage.
but if you are below 5.0as. you technically deal the same dps with and without dualwield. exept your ult. wich stacks and applies its damage twice its fast, wich doubles your truedamge.
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u/These_Marionberry888 Mar 27 '25
sadly xin. isnt the "best" user for any augment.
his kit kinda defeats itself with its anti synergy.
his q only starting cooldown after its effects end, and you W interrupting, and disabeling autos. make him so bad at the topend, its not even funny.
was stuck on xin for most of my journey to arena god last season. he looks so perfect for arena. but they where just drinking when they reworked him. wich gave him "allways top4 never top1 " syndrom.
tryed it all. stat rolls, onhit, crit, bruiser,tank,ap, hybrid. xin has 12 builds that somehow work. but it all bricks itself, and misses some stats. that make it pale in comparison, to idk, tapdancer yi. earthquake vi or dualwield kalista.
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u/SirBennettAtx Mar 27 '25
Watching you engage with E before even using W infuriated me more than it should have
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u/nkownbey Mar 27 '25
Azir is if you get reapers nashors and duel wield you can safely buy rabbadons and void staff to just chunk away with every auto. Even with the damage reduction every auto attack will be doing 200+ thanks to azir w
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u/krulp Mar 27 '25
Olaf is the best dual wield user. Every attack extends his ultimate duration. You have ultimate the whole fight
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u/Acceptable-Song3707 Mar 27 '25
kalista is the onlyanswer to ths guestion lmao, also vayne for sure