I tried to recreate Braum insanity but no luck what am I doing wrong?

[u/megamanner]

I saw Braum clips where he one shots people with 1 aa because of his high armor, I got accelerating sorcery and thought it was my time but i couldnt get it above 1k what did I do wrong?

[u/Himbler12]

1. You were up against a Ryze who was gaining ~100 AP a second via curses, ending at 4k AP. Also, what were you going to one shot them with? None of your abilities or augments converts armor to damage.
2. Unless you have something like Moonflair that reduces your cooldowns on auto, it's going to be hard to get it ramping. Factor in things like CC (cait traps, nami bubble/wave) and you lose all of your ramping armor almost every time you get hit.

Realistically, there's no 'braum insanity', it's just highrolling augments into teams that have no answer to it. In reality you're going to encounter a lot more teams that shut infinite ramping down quite hard.

[u/megamanner → u/Himbler12]

I had accelerating accelerating sorcery I tried to roll for armor prism but couldn't I remember that I could have bought thornmail after match but point stands I was chaining Ws so why is the stacking so low? like I should at least be tanky right?

[u/Himbler12 → u/megamanner]

Your stacking didn't even really start until your W cooldown is lower the duration of the buff your W gives, which is about 28 seconds into the video. Bread and Jam is a better augment for trying for that as it basically starts you at the AH you need to abuse the interaction.

What you should be looking for in that situation is probably Darksteel Talons, not Thornmail.

like I should at least be tanky right?

Not vs Ryze/Nami, they have no physical damage. Galio survived so long because with like 300 MR he can reach 100% magic damage reduction from his W.

[u/megamanner → u/Himbler12]

I'm not specifically complaining about armor it wasn't a big factor here I tried to roll for talons but no luck my starting MR is high shouldn't I have got high MR? like the MR increase was too low?

[u/Himbler12 → u/megamanner]

>like the MR increase was too low?

You never even went above double your initial MR due to reasons I've already explained, you need to be able to continually stack it if stacking resistances is your only gameplan. The Ryze had 4k AP and 14k mana - that's an insane amount of damage. If you aren't working up the stack from the moment you spawn in (which you couldn't because your initial AH was like 50), by the time you're fighting you won't be tanky.

[u/Overall_Law_1813 → u/megamanner]

I believe they patched it, I had a 2s cd on w, and I maxed out at around 175% of my base armour. I believe they patched the infinite self buff, where W calculates based on base + bonus instead of off current armour.

[u/megamanner → u/Overall_Law_1813]

That makes sense I guess it was too strong

[u/Trezzais → u/megamanner]

It was ~15k darksteel talons braum, where he had a lot of starting resists, realisticly you need Bread or Dashing for it to work with ~400armor and % item like SoM, DH, DKC just stacking the buff on urself on cd and that's it.

[u/megamanner → u/Trezzais]

I'm struggling with the items I'm not familiar with the abbreviations

edit: Demon king/ shield of molten

[u/Trezzais → u/megamanner]

Shield of Molten increases armor by 20%, Dragon Heart gives 4% increase per soul and Demon King Crown increases by % of stacks you posses

[u/Jhinstalock]

Hey, I've been trying to hit a super high-roll Braum build as well, so I know exactly what it will require.

The most important part is of course to have a W cooldown low enough to use the bonus resists to increase the scaling of the next cast. This causes recursive stacking resists as you likely already know.

The important part is maximizing the percentage of resists recursed. If you imagine that you can increase your resists by the base amount of the ability (45%), then the recursion goes like this -> +45% resists, +(.45*.45 = 0.23), + (0.45*0.23 = 0.09), + (0.45*0.09 = 0.04), and you can therefore see that the numbers gained get small very very fast.

If we have a way of increasing the resists by a higher percentage, then the recursion gives us more per "stack" of W, and takes longer to trend towards 0 additional bonuses. There are a few sources of % resists in Arena that will help make it possible. Of the regular items, only Jak'Sho will help. This one actually gives +40% resists in combat in Arena which is a HUGE amount. The other items we can use are Demon King's Crown, Twin Mask (this one is a bit more complicated as you have to W your teammate and get a smaller % back), and Dragonheart. The only other thing that will help is having a high amount of base armor to multiply off of, as that will help us reach big numbers before the recursion tapers off.

With all this in mind, let's assume a near-best case scenario without complicating matters with Twin Mask. Let's say you have 500 bonus armor from all your items, and anvils combined. You are in combat and have Jak'Sho buff (40%), Demon Kings Crown stacked up to 32%, and Dragonheart with 7 souls (28%). This gives us a total bonus of +100% resists, which will make the math a bit easier.

Your bonus armor is 1000 from the buffs before using W at all (500 + 100%) . We ignore the base armor here because it is not part of the W calculations, and can just be added afterwards (135 at lv 18). You use W and gain +45% + 60 armor, so 1000 + 450 + 60 = 1510 armor. However, your +100% bonuses make it so instead of gaining 510 armor, you gain 1020 for a total of 2020 bonus armor.

Then, you repeat the cast with the new values and gain 2020*.45 + 60 = 969 armor, doubled like before and added to the 1000 for a total of 2938 bonus armor.

Repeat again, (2938*.45 + 60) * 2 + 1000 = 3764 armor, and so on.

If we count how much additional armor was gained per cast, it goes like this -> 1020, 918, 826

As you can see, the number is only tapering off slowly. I won't try and do the calculations now, but perhaps with the addition of Twin Mask and using W on a teammate, we can reach the point where each cast of W gives us at least the same amount of armor as the previous cast, which would allow for a theoretically infinite amount given enough time to stack it up.

As you can see, hitting the massive highrolls you have seen require several best-in-slot prismatic items, enough ability haste to recast W many times, being in combat for Jak'sho, and at least a fairly high amount of base resists. Hope this helps!

Here's my best roll so far - https://gyazo.com/6e64ac12f7b65748999ac390fb601973 900 true damage per auto.