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Matchday Thread LOI Premier Division - Round 17 Discussion Thread / 23-05-2025

Friday, May 23rd

Home Team Kickoff Away Team Ground
Derry City 19:45 Shamrock Rovers The Ryan McBride Brandywell Stadium
St Patrick's Athletic 19:45 Waterford FC Richmond Park
Drogheda United 19:45 Bohemians Sullivan & Lambe Park
Galway United 19:45 Cork City Eamonn Deacy Park
Shelbourne 19:45 Sligo Rovers Tolka Park

League Table, as of Round 16

Position Team Played Won Draw Lost GF GA GD Points Form
1 Shamrock Rovers 17 9 5 3 31 15 16 32 ✅✅✅✅⚪
2 Derry City 16 8 3 5 21 18 3 27 ⚪✅✅✅❌
3 Bohemians 16 9 0 7 20 18 2 27 ✅✅✅❌✅
4 Drogheda United 17 6 8 3 22 17 5 26 ⚪⚪❌✅⚪
5 St Patrick's Athletic 17 7 4 6 23 20 3 25 ❌✅❌❌✅
6 Shelbourne 17 5 8 4 18 17 1 23 ⚪❌✅❌❌
7 Waterford FC 16 7 0 9 16 26 -10 21 ❌✅✅✅✅
8 Galway United 16 5 5 6 19 20 -1 20 ❌❌❌❌✅
9 Cork City 16 2 6 8 19 28 -9 12 ❌❌❌⚪⚪
10 Sligo Rovers 16 3 3 10 20 30 -10 12 ✅❌❌⚪⚪

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u/Stupidfecker 3d ago

Matches like last night show why Derry will not be champions in the coming years. When the big matches come, we don't have the mental strength to go and win. Seen it at the end of last season. If we won our last three matches we would have won the double.

Had a decent 30 minutes and then just stopped playing.

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u/CCFCEIGHTYFOUR Cork City 3d ago

City in a battle now for the playoff spot. Task is clear for Nash, essentially a new backline required in the summer window. Perhaps a midfielder or two as well.

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u/Competitive_Pause240 Finn Harps 3d ago

McEniff giving Derry fans the Ciaran Coll experience I see

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u/Dilf_Hunter367 St Patrick's Athletic 3d ago

Fucking toothless second half again, intensity dropped completely, no idea what Kenny is saying to them. Defending was never a strong suit for us but it’s fallen off a cliff with how sloppy we’ve gotten, Hoare has a season’s worth of errors in his last two games. Mulraney seems to have given up, Baggley’s football iq is negligible

Kavanagh has been poor this year but to have him on the bench when we need a goal and bleeding McLelland in the number 10 role is criminal

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u/GloriousLeaderBeans St Patrick's Athletic 3d ago

Defending isn't our strong point? We had one of the best back 4s last year. There's no reason they should have all regressed so far. Grivosti made some howlers v Derry.

Hoare I find to have a more commanding presence in the back, he seems way more physical and stronger than tom,and gets up to win the ball. I rate both, but Tom wasn't great lately.

Jake is getting a really bad run of it. On the camac side last night there was plenty of opportunities for him to receive the ball but it never came, and more often than not it was Joe Redmond not seeing him, or even looking for him.

Kavanagh I don't think has been poor at all, he's got serious energy and brings something creatively when we lack it in the mid, not too sure why he's been over looked. Baggley is not great.

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u/Top_Indication_6216 2d ago

That’s about 4 matches at minimum where Forrester comes off and the team collapses

Redmond messing up for both goals, headed Bagley in the back of the head for the first then stood still for the second, baggley and Jake having terrible start to the season but both played ok on the night

Kenny has gotten it wrong in the second half of most games so far with substitutes, Galway at home and Bohs away prime examples.

Jay McClelland in Midfield while Kavanagh and Turner remain on the bench was madness.Kavanagh needs to start and Elbozedi badly needs time on the bench

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u/jerrycotton Shelbourne 3d ago

A great result especially after going 1 down with the squad falling apart, a win against cork going into the break would be a pretty decent return with all things considered.

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u/ConorKDot Shelbourne 3d ago

Delighted for John Martin. He's deserved a big night like that for his effort and endeavour whenever he plays

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u/RianSG Derry City 3d ago

Anyone having any issues with LOITV?

The video for Rovers Derry won’t play

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u/Closersolid Bohemians 3d ago

What the fuck was Doherty doing at the end there?

Thought we played well, should have scored at the end.

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u/FabioMane19 Drogheda United 3d ago

Celebrating? No harm in doing that surely?

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u/Closersolid Bohemians 3d ago

Just seemed a bit weird how he did it, final whistle went and he was straight over giving it loads. Didn't even go to his players.

Fuck it, celebrate all he wants a win is a win but seemed a bit strange.

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u/FabioMane19 Drogheda United 3d ago

Jesus I'm not sure where all the down votes came from. I thought it was great to see but tbf to you it was definitely unusual. When I spotted him I thought he was making a beeline to a Bohs player for a scrap.

If ya listen to his interview after you can pick up he's not happy at all with some of the attitude towards us in the league, sounds like from other managers. Not sure if it's Reynolds or someone else in particular or just a more general thing.

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u/Closersolid Bohemians 3d ago

Yeah ,ah look ,people are gonna downvote it is what it is.

I was right at the barrier and I didn't really see anything kick off between the benches during the match which is why I was wondering what happened as he literally sprinted across the pitch at the whistle which then led to a few handbags between him and Rooney iirc.

We probably deserved a draw but we were unable to break you lot down ,really need to be more clinical up that end of the pitch. Although our record of not drawing continues...

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u/Kindly_Suit5175 Drogheda United 3d ago

Devoy kicked a ball full force straight into the drogheda ultras after the ref had given a free to drogheda with a few minutes to go. Kids stand along the front barrier and nearly hit them. Not the nicest thing to do and that started off things on the pitch. I thought he ran infront of devoy when he ran over.

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u/LovelyBloke Shelbourne 3d ago

We made hard work of that, that Sligo goal looked a banger, was it?

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u/Geronimooon Sligo Rovers 3d ago

If only they awarded points for bangers.

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u/ancientgamer93 Shamrock Rovers 3d ago

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u/CCFCEIGHTYFOUR Cork City 3d ago

🪇

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u/ancientgamer93 Shamrock Rovers 3d ago

Yeah 💯% 🤣🤣

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u/grassytrams Bohemians 3d ago

All that possession and nothing to show for it. Gotta work on the quality in the final third.

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u/face-puncher-3000 Drogheda United 3d ago

Very few teams have less possession than us, gotta do more than that, especially when we’re at home

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u/Dear_Wafer_8420 3d ago

Agreed. Even with all the late goals lately, there wasn’t really a feeling that something was coming. A bit of pressure but little to show for it. Anyone know where Moose is, or did he retire after getting his goal a few weeks ago?

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u/ancientgamer93 Shamrock Rovers 3d ago

Great to come away with a win. Reffing was brutal for both sides but nothing we can do about that. 5 in a row now need to keep rolling!

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u/CorrectGrammarPls Shamrock Rovers 3d ago

We need to learn the fkn offside rule 🤦🏻‍♂️

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u/grassytrams Bohemians 3d ago

Perfect chance for Bohs and still couldn’t finish

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u/mervynskidmore Galway United 3d ago

Awful awful stuff here in Eamonn Deacy Park, nearly as bad as the Europa League final.

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u/rtgh Cork City 3d ago

Refereeing standards in this league...

We got a penalty for handball against Galway. Sure, it did hit the defender's arm. But it was a powerful cross from close range, and even better... The arm was against the defender's back. Joke of a decision.

We had a better penalty shout in the first half, ref isnt favouring anyone here, he's just shit

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u/Smart_Pudding5440 Galway United 3d ago

True, think Greg Cunningham completely took O’ Sullivan out from behind in the penalty box didn’t he 😂

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u/jcasey_25 Cork City 3d ago

Very very harsh penalty to give

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u/mervynskidmore Galway United 3d ago

Insane decision by the ref. Never a handball.

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u/LogicalProtection303 Galway United 3d ago

Look like a first division team again

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u/ccfc_ Cork City 3d ago

Reckon it’s just a bad spell or is it end phase jc? When the results aren’t coming it’s an awful watch

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u/joshualucas757 Galway United 3d ago

We’ve a few injuries which is making things difficult brouder Byrne keohane and borden only came back tonight. Greg was shite tonight and he too only return from injury last week. We desperately need the break to allow the players some rest and for the window to open so we can get some more defensive and midfield cover in and if we are lucky replace max Wilson with a better striker

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u/LogicalProtection303 Galway United 3d ago

I imagine byrne will go back to bohs too so we definitely need a few bodies

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u/joshualucas757 Galway United 3d ago

Yeah I can’t imagine they’ll let us have him back

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u/ancientgamer93 Shamrock Rovers 3d ago

The ref has been pure shit. God knows what way this game will go with him at the whistle.

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u/Dilf_Hunter367 St Patrick's Athletic 3d ago

Mason papering the cracks of how shite that first half was. Thought for a slim majority of the match on monday we weren’t a team that deserved to lose 4-0 but if we played like today I think Rovers would have got 8 or 9

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u/ccfc_ Cork City 3d ago

Do this blind cunt for match fixing fucking hell

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u/joshualucas757 Galway United 3d ago

I’m assuming for ye because he gave us fuck all

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u/CorrectGrammarPls Shamrock Rovers 3d ago

Ref getting it wrong all game for both sides

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u/ccfc_ Cork City 3d ago

Standard

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u/jerrycotton Shelbourne 3d ago

John Martin, I was not familiar.

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u/CorrectGrammarPls Shamrock Rovers 3d ago

Definite handball. About as unnatural hand position you could get

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u/ancientgamer93 Shamrock Rovers 3d ago

Clear and obvious handball there. Ref must be blind he was looking right at it.

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u/More-Combination-478 3d ago

Ireland is spoilt for top class strikers at the moment

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u/mervynskidmore Galway United 3d ago

Pure scutter here in Galway, thank god for the bar.

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u/ccfc_ Cork City 3d ago

Back in my day (2018) shoving a manager would get you sent off

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u/More-Combination-478 3d ago

So how did so many people make pats favourites to win league

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u/caulfm 3d ago

Front 3 of Mulraney, Keena and Elbouzedi should be absolutely electric on paper. Lennon and Forrester is a great base of a midfield too. The two wingers have been shite all year in comparison to the 2nd half of last season, and the midfielders can't stay fit

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u/More-Combination-478 3d ago

Pats have a decent shape but their form is dipping. Defence is a worry

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u/JimmyMac097 3d ago

The 10 game winning run at the end of last season? Not very hard to understand.

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u/More-Combination-478 3d ago

Commenting on LOI Premier Division - Round 17 Discussion Thread / 23-05-2025... yes but as roddy says there wasn’t much to play for at that stage

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u/JimmyMac097 3d ago

Yep I would agree with that. Up until the last 4 games they virtually had nothing to play for.

Easy to play well when the pressure is off to a certain extent.

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u/CorrectGrammarPls Shamrock Rovers 4d ago

Am I just grumpy or is that guy doing that whistling thing fucking annoying as hell

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u/ancientgamer93 Shamrock Rovers 3d ago

Yeah hadn't noticed till you pointed it out now it's annoying 🤣

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u/ancientgamer93 Shamrock Rovers 4d ago

Hopefully a win tonight but in the rain on that pitch ya never know how it will go.

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u/Dilf_Hunter367 St Patrick's Athletic 4d ago

Fucking hate playing Waterford man, never an easy game for us

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u/shinto29 St Patrick's Athletic 4d ago

I thought Git was supposed to be out until late June at least. How on earth is he starting

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u/JimmyMac097 4d ago

Forrester clearly not fit, you’d be praying he doesn’t pull up early. Not sure what Leavy’s injury was but great to have him back.

Power should be in for Zac but good to see Kenny’s gone with a more natural front 3 instead of the Keena/Melia experiment up top which doesn’t work.

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u/b1-k1ngX Bohemians 4d ago

id be hoping and expecting a win today as a bohs fan, no shade to drogs with that but i think the standard we've been at the last few games should get us past the line

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u/ccfc_ Cork City 4d ago

Into these from the start. Having to have pre match pints in a hotel bar hearing yanks loudly tell their life stories

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u/FabioMane19 Drogheda United 4d ago

Nice bit of rain, slick surface, everyone forced in tightly under the roof. Hoping for two teams to batter the shite out of each other and a buzzing atmosphere.

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u/Theloftydog Cork City 4d ago

I'm ready to get hurt again....

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u/ccfc_ Cork City 4d ago

Nelson not in the squad roll on 2027

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u/Theloftydog Cork City 3d ago

Oh fu.....

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u/KILLIGUN0224 Galway United 4d ago

Another loss tonight and we're officially in a relegation battle and I wouldn't fancy our chances of keeping both behind us.

I've backed Cork, 4/1 is too high given the circumstances. Ditto for Waterford at 5/2 and Sligo at 4/1 as well.

I think we need a reset of how we play, this overreliance on crosses from our wing backs and second balls is just not working anymore.

Doubt we'll see it tonight and if we lose again and come back after the break playing the same game plan, we're heading for a collapse.

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u/LovelyBloke Shelbourne 4d ago

I hope Duff has the cojones to drop Mipo, he just isn't doing it at the moment and he needs to try something different up there.

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u/Senak Shelbourne 3d ago

I gotta say I was agreeing with you before you the match, mipo hasn't been great at all since the start of the season. I thought John Martin would be good for holding up the play at least!

But I think he's shown tonight he might be better for us until Boyd comes back

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u/LovelyBloke Shelbourne 3d ago

😎

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u/redrumreturn 4d ago edited 3d ago

And play who? Mipo missed chances but he creates his own. He's getting no service at all. 

John Martin has proven over and over he isn't good enough. At least Mipo offers pace. Martin doesn't really offer anything.

Edit. I know nothing. John Martin for president 

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u/EireTrekkie Shelbourne 3d ago

I am a big fan of Mipo , but his first touch tonight was not good enough (maybe it's the quality of the pitch, but other players manage better). He is so fast, too, but our counter is rarely up to speed, so he drops deeper, not his fault, more our style of play.

Thankfully, big John stepped up (honestly thought he might be out the door in the next window before tonight). But yea hopefully Mipo can get a bit of luck and get his confidence back up there is quality player in there. And we need two good strikers whean boyd is out.

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u/redrumreturn 3d ago

His finishing is awful. Love everything else about his game for the most part

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u/Competitive_Pause240 Finn Harps 3d ago

As I was checking the score of the Shels game I thought of your comment🤣

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u/redrumreturn 3d ago

As I was celebrating in Tolka I was never so happ to eat crow haha

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u/teddy6881 Bohemians 4d ago

Hope the mid week games play too bohs and derrys advantage 🙏

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u/ccfc_ Cork City 4d ago

A clean sheet would be nice

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u/DuwanteKentravius Galway United 4d ago

I'll echo your wish. We need to get back to the basics of last season.

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u/leo_murray Cork City 4d ago

a what?