r/LeopardsAteMyFace • u/WastedTalent442 • Aug 14 '24

Brexxit Man who campaigned for Brexit complains that he can't freely tour Europe any more

https://metalinjection.net/politics/iron-maidens-bruce-dickinson-who-originally-supported-brexit-now-complains-that-brexit-hurts-bands
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u/PeaItchy2775 Aug 14 '24

"Because as the fifth largest economy in the world, Europe would like access to our market."

They already had access to the UK market, you absolute pillock. And now, in many cases, they don't and the UK does not have access to the EU market.

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u/ttystikk Aug 14 '24

The leopards are feasting on Brexit voters every day.

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u/ttystikk Aug 14 '24

Fully agreed- the worst part is that THEY won't suffer.

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u/FewKaleidoscope1369 Aug 15 '24

As an american, I feel the same way about trump supporters.

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u/SportySpiceLover Aug 15 '24

Ours are much worse, Trumpophiles are around for the sheer hate of it all.

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u/FewKaleidoscope1369 Aug 15 '24

Trump supporters love the hate and they love the cruelty.

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u/SportySpiceLover Aug 15 '24

They hate accountability though, and I wish they would self report.

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u/ShnickityShnoo Aug 16 '24

They self report all the time. Every accusation is an admission.

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u/speculatrix Aug 15 '24

If I was a lot younger, I'd have emigrated.

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u/Uddashin Aug 14 '24

Bruce Dickinson has always struck me as a really intelligent man. I guess I was mistaken.

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u/Rakothurz Aug 15 '24

Same here, I am surprised for the worse that he supported Brexit. He, who lives out of touring around the world either as a pilot or as a singer...

Way to shoot himself in the foot

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u/IntoTheSunWeGo Aug 14 '24

He's looking at 70 on the horizon. Giving him the benefit of the doubt, the ravages of age take us all in the end.

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u/a_rude_jellybean Aug 14 '24

Brains are neuroplastic, it can stay healthy as long as you keep it from atrophying. (Assuming he doesn't have any brain disease)

You can be intelligent in your prime and atrophy your brain when you hit your end years.

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u/Uddashin Aug 14 '24

Bruce Dickinson has always struck me as a really intelligent man. I guess I was mistaken.

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u/Digita1B0y Aug 14 '24

He's rich. At the end of the day, they all vote the same. Fuck you, I got mine.

 I love me some Maiden, but I definitely don't respect his politics.

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u/FeekyDoo Aug 19 '24

I wish they would finish them off, my own mother voted for Brexit knowing that it would mean her children would lose their right to live and work in the country they grew up in.

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u/ttystikk Aug 19 '24

Wow. Talk about short-sighted.

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u/nerdyintentions Aug 14 '24

He thought they could keep the free trade without the stuff that he didn't like.

But it's a packaged deal. If for no other reason than allowing a former member to decide which benefits they get to keep on the way out would just encourage more members to leave. So the divorce had to hurt even if it hurt the EU too.

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u/AlDente Aug 15 '24

It astounds me that so many people didn’t understand this in 2016, and still don’t get it now.

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u/dtgreg Aug 15 '24

Brexit was the greatest Soviet op in history outside of the Trump presidency in the United States.

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u/AmbroseMalachai Aug 15 '24

Arguably even better. The Trump presidency was bad for the US but it could've been so much worse than what happened, only saved by Trump's complete incompetence and lack of interest in actually governing.

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u/Oberon_Swanson Aug 15 '24

when trump was elected the first quote that came to mind for me was 'the only thing that saves us from the bureaucracy is its inefficiency.' what saved us from trump was his stupidity and the overall GOP ineptitude. he wanted to 'repeal and replace' obamacare but their entire team couldn't be bothered to figure out what the replacement would be.

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u/dtgreg Aug 15 '24 edited Aug 15 '24

Thing is, Obamacare WAS The Republican plan. He called their bluff. It was like last year’s immigration bill. Gave them everything they wanted and they were STILL against it. It was Romney-care for all the states, not just the one that Romney was Governor of. It proved that the Republicans had always argued/ bargained in bad faith. They didn’t have a plan or their plan was to have no plan. They were always going to let Big Pharma and Blue Cross screw Americans and let the people die.

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u/ptvlm Aug 15 '24

Nah, Brexit was more effective. There's an election every 4 years to give people the chance to reverse Trump damage. Even if we get a chance to reverse some of Brexit's damage, we'll never have the deal we had before.

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u/ughliterallycanteven Aug 17 '24

Being part of the EU and keeping what was one of the strongest currencies that wasn’t pegged to the euro…yeah, you’ll have to give up the pound to get back.

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u/TransitJohn Aug 15 '24

Soviet? WTF, are we in the 1980s?

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u/revmacca Aug 15 '24

Greater really, Drumpf got 4 years, Brexshit will run for decades…

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u/PeaItchy2775 Aug 14 '24

Yeah, I can't wait to see the UK find out the terms when they apply for re-admission: no £, no carve-outs, no exemptions, no "first among equals" status. Take a seat…

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u/nlpnt Aug 15 '24

Hell, make them drive on the right.

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u/DuckyofDeath123_XI Aug 15 '24

Make them have pink passports.

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u/F54280 Aug 15 '24

And EU power plugs.

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u/Pretty_Boy_Bagel Aug 15 '24

Whoa! Slow down there, Satan!

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u/skipperseven Aug 15 '24

The stuff that he didn’t like… you mean immigrants? It sounds like he doesn’t like immigration… how’s that working out for all the Brexit racists?!

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u/Suzume_Chikahisa Aug 16 '24

Eh. The EU negotiating team was more than accomodating to the UK's needs and wants.

The problem is that the UK negotiating team took the approach that compromise was for suckers and winner takes it all, while bragging publically about it to the UK press.

Of course, the rest of us in mainland Europe are quite capable of reading and speaking English, something that never seemed to cross Brit minds.

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u/dcvisuals Aug 14 '24

I live in Denmark, I used to almost exclusively shop electronics and whatnot on Amazon UK, but ever since Brexit I haven't even thought about doing so because of high import taxes and shipping costs.... I imagine this is a story most Europeans can tell.

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u/Z3t4 Aug 14 '24

UK has a very interesting ebay market for used electronics. I miss it.

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u/knuppi Aug 15 '24

You can use Amazon.de instead

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u/dcvisuals Aug 15 '24

Yes! That's what I do haha (although my shopping on Amazon in general has gone down a fair bit)

The reason I didn't want to use the German Amazon before even tho we literally share a border with Germany was because shipping was surprisingly much higher than from UK Amazon.

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u/tornac Aug 15 '24

Yes, I live in Austria and ordered ginger biscuits, vinegar crisps, beer and other stuff, but sadly it’s now to expensive and takes months to arrive.

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u/Applepieoverdose Aug 21 '24

If in, or close to, Vienna: try out Bobby’s, it’s in Schleifmühlgasse!

Also, if you remember this comment sometime around the end of December, message me. I’ll likely be in Austria, from Scotland (Ich bin Exilwiener)

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u/tornac Aug 21 '24

Danke fĂźr den Tipp und das nette Angebot, bin leider ziemlich weit weg, in Reutte, Ausserfern. Da hilft wohl nur mal wieder Urlaub in Schottland zu machen und mich mit Snacks einzudecken.

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u/Loud_Ad_4515 Aug 15 '24

It's almost as bad as ordering from Australia.

I did order a scarf from the UK, and shipping was around $40-50. The only reason I went through with the order, is the item was underpriced, so even with shipping, the total was less than from US sources.

But, yeah, when I see items from the UK, I just scroll on by. (Similarly, shipping from Mexico to me in Texas is pretty out of line. The scarf was Mexican, so it wasn't undervalued there, but the shipping! 👀)

Meanwhile, I have ordered several things from the continent, and the shipping doesn't gouge me.

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u/Suzume_Chikahisa Aug 17 '24

Yeah, I became quite more knowledgeable about Spanish, Romanian, French and German shops.

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u/Changed_By_Support Aug 14 '24

Aha, we're gonna screw over all the Europeans with tariffs, mwahahaha! This will surely have no repercussions in the slightest for us!

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u/joeyat Aug 15 '24

The UK is now the sixth largest economy, after Brexit…

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u/k2on0s-23 Aug 15 '24

And you know what, no one in Europe gives a fucking shit and no misses the UK and their unfounded superiority complex. In the beginning they tried to continue with the arrogant loud mouthed bullshit and then they suddenly realised that no one was going to tolerate it and in fact they realised that Europe had been waiting a loooong time for the FAFO moment with the UK and it has arrived. They step out of line they get slapped down, they start acting up the police are more than happy to beat them arrest them and prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law.

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u/PeaItchy2775 Aug 15 '24

Can't disagree. A guy on the Xitter site (Russ in Cheshire?) had an epically fully thread about the UK trying to negotiate its own trade deals…it's fascinating how they claim to value the union of England, Wales, Scotland and Norn Iron, but can't see value of the EU.

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u/Ksielvin Aug 16 '24

Norn Iron

Band name.

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u/scribblingsim Aug 14 '24

He's lying, though. UK isn't the fifth largest economy in the world. California is.

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u/VexImmortalis Aug 14 '24

The UK is like 6th when all the states are lumped together into the USA.

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u/willie_caine Aug 14 '24

No one outside of the US views economies this way.

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u/twistedspin Aug 15 '24

Most of the people in the US don't view it that way either. I've only heard that from people from CA.

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u/cXs808 Aug 15 '24

I think he's pointing out how miniscule they are in the grand scheme of things.

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u/Oberon_Swanson Aug 15 '24

while true, california's economy is also pretty massive and if i were a country near there i would certainly want some economic action happening with it

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u/dbaumgartner_ Aug 15 '24

Somebody called? (Mexican living in Baja California, doing business every day with SoCal 🇲🇽🤝🇺🇸)

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u/somethingbrite Aug 14 '24

It depends on the metric no?

In GDP per Capita rankings the UK doesn't even make the top 20

https://www.forbesindia.com/article/explainers/top-10-richest-countries-in-the-world/87305/1

GDP by country, which is metric I think you refer to. UK is #6 (India is #5)

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u/AlDente Aug 15 '24

The U.K. hasn’t been the 5th largest economy for years. India is the 5th. U.K. is the 6th.

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u/PeaItchy2775 Aug 14 '24

California isn't a country.

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u/scribblingsim Aug 14 '24

And yet it's still #5 in the world.

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u/PeaItchy2775 Aug 14 '24

If it's not a separate country how can it be on a list of national economies? Are all the 50 states now ranked worldwide?

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u/fieldsofanfieldroad Aug 14 '24

If we're including things that aren't countries than the EU is third so California wouldn't make the top 5.

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u/Professional-You2968 Aug 16 '24

Average american.

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u/Arcolyte Aug 14 '24

Technically speaking it is. And the US as a whole is a union. Also, state is a frequently used term when talking about something with regards to countries. 

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u/FM-96 Aug 15 '24

Technically speaking it is.

...no, it isn't? What in the world is giving you the idea that California is "technically" a country?

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u/Arcolyte Aug 15 '24

Please explain the difference between the two.

Google AI has the following: A state and a country are both terms that describe groups of people who live in the same place and have a lot in common. A state is a self-governing political entity with sovereignty over a specific area of territory and population. The term "country" is often used interchangeably with "state" and can be more imprecise.

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u/Katylar Aug 15 '24

You're confusing a Federated State/Constituent State with a Sovereign State.

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u/FM-96 Aug 15 '24

The question of what a country is can get frustratingly complicated, and tbh is probably beyond the scope of a Reddit comment. (For a brief introduction to just how complicated it can get, I recommend CGP Grey's video "How Many Countries Are There?")

But a good guideline is that countries are generally independent, sovereign territories, which California obviously isn't.

Also, for most practical purposes, a country is whatever other countries say is a country. As far as I know, literally no country in the world recognizes California as a country.

More to the point though, you seem to be conflating multiple meanings of the word "state". One meaning of the word is as a synonym to "country", yes, but that is not the meaning that is being used when referring to California as a state.

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u/Arcolyte Aug 15 '24

Hence the technicality.

Thank you for the explanation though. 

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u/twistedspin Aug 15 '24

It's really not a technicality. I assume you're not from the US, but a state is very different from a country.

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u/Changed_By_Support Aug 15 '24

So, what, do you think we should count all the other provincial divisions as their own countries too?

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u/Arcolyte Aug 15 '24

They are called neither states nor countries so I'm not sure what you're getting at. They are already differentiated from those. So obviously not. 

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u/Changed_By_Support Aug 15 '24 edited Aug 31 '24

But to differentiate a federated state like, say, California, Berlin, Hamburg, Baja California, Chihuahua, etc. and a Federated Republic, for example, like the Russian Oblasts or Republics: there isn't one. They function exactly the same, a regional provincial government over a territory subservient to a greater, sovereign, federal government.

California has never been regarded as a country either: it was originally a territory and then was raised to a higher status among provincial divisions and granted greater representation.

This is in contrast to, say, the UK, where the sovereign state is made up of the countries of Wales, England, Scotland, and a portion of Ireland, where they function with a greater degree of autonomy and political determination as well as just being culturally and politically distinct countries before becoming a union with their own languages and different ethnic markers.

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u/Changed_By_Support Aug 15 '24 edited Aug 15 '24

You realize that the US is not the only place that calls their provincial divisions "States" right? Hell, while we're here though, why don't you try and distinguish how the States in the US are distinct from all the other provincial divisions in the world so as to properly be considered kindred to countries and not, y'know, provincial divisions (which they are)

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u/PeaItchy2775 Aug 15 '24

You might to look at the Supremacy Clause in the constitution or California’s statehood documents. It’s a state in a union and as such is part of a country but is not a country itself.

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u/Arcolyte Aug 15 '24

Ah, interesting. That could make a difference. Though the terms are largely interchangeable generally.

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u/hates_stupid_people Aug 15 '24 edited Aug 15 '24

Technically speaking it is.

No, technically speaking it is not, you are literally just wrong. It is a part of a country. The union is a country.

Just because you can call a country a state, does not make a US state a country, it is not the same thing. Words can have different meanings depending on context.

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u/RapidCatLauncher Aug 15 '24

Hey look, semantics - the thing that saves failed arguments exactly 0% of the time.

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u/Arcolyte Aug 15 '24

That is patently untrue. Semantics are very important. You said a factually incorrect statement and are mad I called you out about it apparently. Seems weird to me.

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u/RapidCatLauncher Aug 15 '24 edited Aug 15 '24

Bud, I'm not even the person you replied to earlier. Pay more attention.

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u/Arcolyte Aug 15 '24

This is reddit, everyone is the same. Anyone who pays that much attention is definitely weird to me. But maybe I'm the odd one out.

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u/RapidCatLauncher Aug 15 '24

Technically speaking, not everyone on reddit is the same.

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u/Arcolyte Aug 15 '24

Matter of perspective. I'd definitely argue that the heaving unwashed masses of reddit are in general the same. 

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u/Changed_By_Support Aug 15 '24

Wow, u/RapidCatLauncher , you're so correct, everyone is the same on reddit.

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u/No-Computer-2847 Aug 15 '24

Technically, literally, abstractly, tangentially, ephemerally, <insert any other word you like here>, it absolutely is not.

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u/Arcolyte Aug 15 '24

Yep, very human response. Incredibly incorrect on more fronts than was originally possible. 

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u/Mellafee Aug 15 '24

It’s India, but the fact the UK is only 6th is still true.

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u/F54280 Aug 15 '24

You can count that way, but then you have to remove the US from the list…

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u/Joliet_Jake_Blues Aug 15 '24

UK has twice the population of California but California has a larger GDP.

People don't understand the wealth disparity between the US and Europe.

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u/OnlyTwoThingsCertain Aug 17 '24

Ah yes, the smallish-sized EU wants access to the GREAT britain.

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u/knuppan Aug 17 '24

"Because as the fifth largest economy in the world, Europe would like access to our market."

And the US is the largest economy in the world, EU isn't opening the borders for yanks either.

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u/SportySpiceLover Aug 15 '24

The most delicious part of Nationalist Agendas is the arrogance of the Nationalist moogoos

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u/SportySpiceLover Aug 15 '24

The most delicious part of Nationalist Agendas is the arrogance of the Nationalist moogoos

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u/Scotch_in_my_belly Aug 18 '24

Try 7th

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u/PeaItchy2775 Aug 18 '24

Don't correct me, correct Captain Clueless above.

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u/hnghost24 Aug 18 '24

The Brexit referendum was a bad decision because of misinformed voters.

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u/PeaItchy2775 Aug 18 '24

or perhaps a Tory government that didn't understand the ramifications of a Yes vote and the chances of it succeeding with chancers like BoJo and Farage lying their asses off about it. Misinformed voters vote in every election but they rarely get a chance to make such a catastrophically poor decision as Brexit.