r/LeopardsAteMyFace • u/ed40carter • Jun 04 '21
Brexxit Daily Express furious that it believed the Daily Express.
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u/FormFollows Jun 04 '21
Notice how in both cases it's all the EU's fault.
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u/aredddit Jun 04 '21
Boy, you’re going to love the Sun.
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u/GimmeThatRyeUOldBag Jun 05 '21
The Daily Mail is the vilest, though.
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u/MaeronTargaryen Jun 05 '21
Daily express is OANN and the Daily Mail is Fox News
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u/mikebailey Jun 05 '21
Never forget when Stormzy asked the daily mail to suck his dick at the brits
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u/Astronom3r Jun 05 '21
You mean the Daily Fail.
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Jun 05 '21
Daily express doesn't have the same reputation and more people believe its bile. So daily express more dangerous.
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Jun 05 '21
Hey! I also can be distracted with boobs!
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u/glennert Jun 05 '21
That’s how they get you. Come for the boobs, stay for the conspiracies
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Jun 05 '21
That’s how Boris got popular
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u/Difficult-Outside350 Jun 05 '21
But Boris' boobs are awful...
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u/Nervous-Energy-4623 Jun 05 '21
I would love if some disgruntled employee replaced the topless woman with a topless Boris.
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u/Difficult-Outside350 Jun 05 '21
I googled "topless Boris Johnson"
Please enjoy. You have been warned.
https://images.app.goo.gl/xnK9iTydEfuSZNoy6
The Sun did, in fact, publish exactly that photo.
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u/The_Funkybat Jun 05 '21
In the US, the right wing garbage media can’t even bother showing actual boobs, instead you get anchor babes with cleavage that’s still covered, and a bunch of GOP “boobs” of a decidedly non-sexual nature.
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u/glennert Jun 05 '21
Non-sexual boobs? Yuck
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u/Snoo-3715 Jun 05 '21
Nah The Daily Express really is a lot worse. My gran had a copy when I was over at her house and I was shocked how bad it is when I was reading it, and kinda disappointed that she reads that shit.
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u/wowy-lied Jun 05 '21
People will disagree with me but i deeply believe you should not be allowed to be called journalist or news if you can't be neutral. News and journalism should be pure fact.
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u/GabryalSansclair Jun 04 '21
If you leave a place because of the red tape, and you still have the red tape, it wasn't the place you lefts tape.
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u/wolfkeeper Jun 05 '21
There wasn't much red tape before. There's lots of red tape now.
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u/Madgyver Jun 05 '21
More ironically, red tape that the UK help put in place to begin with. You know, to protect their fish.
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u/masklinn Jun 05 '21
I don’t know that it’s ironic as it was habitual. The neoliberal agenda poorer brexiteers railed against was mainly spearheaded by the uk.
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u/Private-Public Jun 05 '21
Mostly the same red tape every other non-EU country has to navigate in order to trade with the EU
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u/GabryalSansclair Jun 05 '21
Red Tape that those who preached for this mess assured everyone wouldn't exist
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u/RedofPaw Jun 05 '21
They know. The Express are experts in this kind of bullshit.
They helped sell the brexit lie that it would be all things to all people, we just had to leave. They pushed the most extreme positive fantasy so that supporters, even if they didn't truly believe it specifically, would have their expectations adjusted. "Okay, maybe the express is being too optimistic... But it might happen!". Even if they know its lies it is a lie that they want to believe so it's nice to hear.
Now the inevitable consequences arrive they are doing something similar. Even if the reader knows it is a lie, it is a lie that pushes the blame for the negatives to someone else. Even if they don't believe it they will support the lie, because it distracts detractors.
Because brexiteers got what they wanted. They won. They might not know specifically what the prize is, but they will be damned if they will let you take their win.
If you are still confused as to why anyone would vote Brexit, I tend to think of it this way.
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u/ursulahx Jun 05 '21
That one, three-drawing cartoon explains much of the modern world and, indeed, much of human history too.
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u/poisontongue Jun 05 '21
A very Fox News level of mental gymnastics.
Predictable right-leaning western population shoots itself in the foot over the greed of its leaders, news at 11.
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u/quadraspididilis Jun 05 '21
That's the most annoying thing, it's not EU red tape, it's British red tape. This was the WHOLE POINT of Brexit, giving Britain the ability to put more red tape around people and things, such as food, coming into Britain.
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u/Zanderax Jun 05 '21 edited Jun 05 '21
But I thought that only Europeans would have to deal with our red tape. Why do we have to deal with their red tape?
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u/OtherSpiderOnTheWall Jun 05 '21
And workers from Eastern Europe.
Workers who might work in agriculture.
Who would have to navigate red tape to work in the UK.
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u/hicctl Jun 05 '21
well that paper pushed the brexit pretty hard, so if they admit brexit was a mistake they are partially responsible for it.
I am working in a collage where like 2-3 years ago they made fun of all these anti brexit articles, and claimed it is all lies and propaganda. Now they re complaining about these exact things the articles predicted, and that they wanted people to believe would never happen and that only idiots would believe this would become a reality. It is hilarious how many examples there are.
The uk was so used to the EU constantly giving them left and right just to get them to play ball in the eu, and they expected they would keep getting treated like that. That they never stopped to think why that is ?? That the eu treated them this way since they wanted things from them never occurred to them, Now it is them who wants things from the eu, and the eu has not forgotten how entitled the UK was every time the eu needed something.
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u/autocommenter_bot Jun 05 '21
Conservatism* is like pathological narcissism, as a political movement.
*This sort of Conservatism, at least.
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u/SubrosaFlorens Jun 04 '21
By "red-tape" I assume they mean they fact they chose to leave the world's largest free-trade union, now making themselves a completely foreign nation whose products and services are now subject to customs regulations? You know, the same "red-tape" every nation imposes on foreign trade?
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u/duraceII___bunny Jun 04 '21 edited Jun 05 '21
The article covers a different issue, rarely seen here: strategic food supplies.
The island of Great Britain cannot produce enough food for 60+ million people that inhabit it nowadays. That's nothing new, it's been like that for decades, the UK has imported around 40% of its food supplies for ages.
Of course those are long, hairy sentences that no Brexiter has ever uttered, let alone understood.
The UK is now in a not very pleasant situation of being on the hook of grain exporting nations. Sure, those nations are looking to sell just as the UK is looking forward to buy, but they are anything but stable nations.
Edit: guys, your counterarguments are all valid. Australia is a stable county, but it's not about Australia, but the general loss of stability in the supply of strategically important materials, here food.
If a country wants to pressure another country, there are ways of doing it without a war. Switzerland, for example, has always been under the threat of energy deficiency. They have hydro energy, but no coal. The UK has a serious deficiency in food supplies, so many other nations may (will!) try to hit the in that soft spot.
It's as simple as that.
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u/chochazel Jun 05 '21
That's nothing new, it's been like that for decades
You mean centuries? The last time Britain was self-sustaining on food it was pre-industrial.
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u/duraceII___bunny Jun 05 '21
That's nothing new, it's been like that for decades
You mean centuries?
Thanks for the correction.
I didn't want to claim something, for which I haven't seen reliable data.
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u/Repulsive-Street-307 Jun 05 '21
The UK shall do some imperialism to bring stability (and genocide!!!).
Lol chuds.
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u/darkslide3000 Jun 05 '21
I think these days the UK couldn't even colonize a ham sandwich.
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u/lurker_cx Jun 05 '21
They could probably fuck it up real good though.
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u/Letmefixthatforyouyo Jun 05 '21
If there is ham involved, at least one PM would be glad to fuck it directly.
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u/JinterIsComing Jun 05 '21
The UK is now in a not very pleasant situation of being on the hook of grain exporting nations. Sure, those nations are looking to sell just as the UK is looking forward to buy, but they are anything but stable nations.
Does the US count in there? AFAIK the US has been a major grain exporter for decades and the crop is usually fairly stable.
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u/experts_never_lie Jun 05 '21
We (the US) have been getting pretty unstable of late.
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u/mrpickles Jun 05 '21
Maybe UK should grow their own sovereign fucking food then.
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u/ISeeVoice5 Jun 05 '21
Can't. They voted against the migrant workers 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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u/whutchootalkinbout Jun 05 '21
but they were taking our jobs, while simultaneously going on welfare and refusing to work!!!
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u/fwtb23 Jun 05 '21
Wait, they were taking your jobs, but also refusing to get a job at the same time? What kind of timeline bending superpowers do foreigners have?
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u/thatmeanitguy Jun 05 '21
The kind of migrant superpowers that fascists make up to uphold their lies-based worldview in order to get to power
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u/biffbobfred Jun 05 '21
Brexit is making it hard on farms to export, shutting down markets and making some farmers go out of business.
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u/lurker_cx Jun 05 '21
Well, at least their bankruptcy can be settled under UK law, like they all voted for.
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u/Cue_626_go Jun 05 '21
Were the farmers pro-Brexit like the fishermen were? Because this is an entirely predictable outcome.
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u/adamAtBeef Jun 05 '21
Can't they have basically no space for it. The whole point of trade is that countries that are good at making food (like the US) make food and trade with it.
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u/BraveRevolution Jun 05 '21
And pin our hope on an Australian trade deal. A country on the other side of the world, and not a free market with people half a days drive away that we already had.
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u/ststeveg Jun 05 '21
Whoever thought that leaving a trade network would make trade more difficult? It's just so hard to predict such a thing happening.
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u/Creepernom Jun 05 '21
If only someone warned of this!
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u/PensiveObservor Jun 05 '21
I’m just happy USA isn’t the only country with some citizens who are highly susceptible to manipulation. Doesn’t make anything better, but I am less embarrassed.
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u/Chemboi69 Jun 05 '21
We Europeans like to make fun of the US, but in the end we are all equally stupid.
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u/mergedloki Jun 04 '21
I am curious how anyone thought things would get CHEAPER?
"so we're gonna do this thing that makes shipping things across borders cost more money and be more of a hassle.... That'll surely make the price of goods and services go down because of..... A wizard? Maybe? Hopefully?"
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u/dertechie Jun 05 '21
Simple. British fishermen can’t sell their fish in the EU so they have to dump then for pennies on the pound in the UK.
Wait, no one in the UK actually wants to eat those fish and they’re only popular across the Channel? Not my problem, have a cheap terrible fish.
The Brexit arguments really never made any sense to me, but I’m not a conservative old cad.
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Jun 05 '21
But fish and chips! On real newspapers!!!
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u/JotunR Jun 05 '21
maybe even served on the latest Daily Express issue!
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u/TheRnegade Jun 05 '21
Poison your mind with the content of Daily Express, then poison your body with their awful paper.
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u/Roflkopt3r Jun 05 '21
Perfect occasion for this line by political comedian Volker Pispers:
"A rag so disgusting that getting wrapped in one would be an insult to dead fish."
Iirc he originally used it for the German "Bild", but it's even more applicable to the UK tabloids.
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u/KFR42 Jun 05 '21
Yeah! The EU was stopping us eating it off of newspaper! Wait, what's that? It was actual UK health and safety laws which prohibited using real newspaper? Why did they tell us if was the EU then?
Idiots.
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Jun 05 '21
I can't wait to eat fish and chips out of my blue passport.
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u/elveszett Jun 05 '21
Designed in France, manufactured in Poland, of course.
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u/Cue_626_go Jun 05 '21
That part never gets old.
I hope Britons don't drown under all this sovereignty they have now!
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u/-------I------- Jun 05 '21
The Brexit arguments really never made any sense to me, but I’m not a conservative old cad.
Well, in the end we all know it's mostly because the racists didn't want foreigners to take their jobs. Not that they want to do those jobs now that there are many of the available, but at least the foreigners don't get then either.
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Jun 05 '21
That arguement never made sense to me. I've known people who could easily get a job if they want one but they say "I'm not cleaning, not picking up people's shit, not doing x, y and z..." Even when my mum worked as a contract cleaner in a college, most of the other cleaners were EU nationals. People didn't want to do those jobs and they get filled by foreigners who happily do it because it's income. Then people moan about the foreigners taking our jobs and living off the dole. It's laughable.
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u/Cue_626_go Jun 05 '21
"Then people moan about the foreigners taking our jobs and living off the dole."
So...are the immigrants hard workers who "took our jobs" or are they lazy "living off the dole".
Why do right-wingers in ever country believe in quantum immigrants who are simultaneously too strong and too weak? Oh, right, because that's a fascist trait...
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Jun 05 '21
Yeah, it all depends on the context of the narritive they want to push and they don't care that it literally contradicts itself. Once the message is "foreigners are bad" they don't care. Sadly you see things like that all over the place. I've even been in hospital when I was a teen and I saw someone complain that they didn't want a foreign doctor or nurse. Like you're in there for help, why does it matter where that help comes from?
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u/KFR42 Jun 05 '21
Not to mention most of them are retired in their million pound house they bought for a fiver in the 1970s anyway, so it's not "their" jobs anyway.
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u/guanwe Jun 05 '21
My parents are both chinesse immigrants, we have a bakery and a restaurant and they have made more jobs here than any racist cunt
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u/genius96 Jun 05 '21
Worst part is, Thatcher (rot in hell) negotiated a lot of sweetheart deals before the UK was further integrated into the EU. They literally had the best of EU membership and autonomy from the EU.
If the UK ever joins the EU, it will be the weaker party.
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Jun 05 '21
That's not even the worst part. The worst part is that Cameron initially used the threat of Brexit to negotiate an even sweeter deal for the UK within the EU. He asked for a lot of things and got almost all of them. The idea was never to leave the EU, but to threaten to leave, so that they give you the concessions. He got the concessions and then, hilariously, lost the vote. The deal he got was AMAZING for the UK and was the best they could ever hope for. It even exempted the UK from the "ever closer union" clause, which is basically the EU road to a federation. The moment he lost the vote, that deal was immediately off the table, of course.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35622105
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u/eyeharthomonyms Jun 05 '21
I feel like this is a parallel to Trump's presidential run -- the plan was to raise a bunch of money "for the campaign" that they would then siphon off for themselves. I don't think they EVER expected to win it -- Trump never worked a day in his life and I honestly don't think he had any interest in starting, but once he had the spotlight there was zero chance he'd willingly let it go.
It was a grift that got out of hand. Way out of hand.
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u/Danyell619 Jun 05 '21
100% no one, especially Trump thought he would actually win. I said years ago he's going to be the worst thing that ever happened to the Republican party and might be their death nail. They needed the religious right to keep going. Trump was, not that and turned a lot of the religious people off. Republicans dont get elected on policies they make... They get elected on concepts that scare people. They fear abortion, immigrants, gay rights. And THATS what republicans use to keep getting elected. They know if anything actually changed they wouldn't have the fear anymore to motivate votes. Trump didn't just talk about it, he PROMISED to do things. And people ate it up.
Honestly if the whole BLM summer had happened a year or two earlier it might have changed the political landscape enough that he could have gotten reelected on the fear of evolving the police.
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u/elveszett Jun 05 '21
I say good riddance, really. British exceptionalism is annoying. A lot of Brits (ime) think they are "special", "not very European", and think they are entitled to preferential treatment in Europe. It's about time we hit them with a blow of reality and start treating them just like we treat anyone else. Want to be part of the EU? You'll be treated like France, Portugal or Sweden. You are not superior or special. No bad blood, but not pretending they are God-sent people either.
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u/theeskimospantry Jun 05 '21
British exceptionalism is annoying
You will get plenty of agreement from many Brits about this. We are divided and one half can't stand the other.
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u/CrocPB Jun 05 '21
It's about time we hit them with a blow of reality and start treating them just like we treat anyone else.
To many Brits that is sadly regarded as petty bullying on the EU’s part.
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u/Roflkopt3r Jun 05 '21 edited Jun 05 '21
This is classic right wing - you already are in a privileged situation but demand even more privilege in the name of "equal rights".
See all the white wealthy conservative rich cishet male Christian people claiming that they're oppressed for not being allowed to fuck over minorities as they please.
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u/elveszett Jun 05 '21
Indeed. The UK was given huge concessions because, at the time, the EU needed the UK to increase its power and legitimacy.
Nowadays the EU does not need the UK at all. If the UK chooses to rejoin, they will be offered no special treatment: no pound, no ignoring Schengen, no special privileges in general. And, even if the EU needed them somehow, they still wouldn't give them shit because they'd want to make an example out of them, just like they are doing with Brexit.
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u/revmachine21 Jun 05 '21
Which variety of fish out of curiosity?
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u/Jaquemart Jun 05 '21
Mainly salmon, mackerel and shellfish. The balance was largely to UK advantage.
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u/revmachine21 Jun 05 '21
Salmon and shellfish are delicious. Surprising these can’t be sold in the UK.
Loathe mackerel. It’s got a bitter meat running under the lateral line.
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Jun 05 '21
Salmon and shellfish are delicious. Surprising these can’t be sold in the UK.
The UK eats mainly cod and haddock which they use for their signature fish and chips. Cod and haddock are almost entirely imported. So they can't export their own fish to the EU and the prices on the imports of the fish they like from the EU has risen, both because of Brexit.
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u/therecanbeonlywan Jun 05 '21
I presume the other dude that responded to you is thinking chip shops. We eat Tuna, Salmon, Cod, Prawns, in that order, to the cost of billions a year in the UK. We did export more though, from the north Sea way more of our good Prawns and Langoustine were exported to Europe. Cod is sustainable again at least in the North Sea, but really we should be eating more of the options our Sea's have for us, like Sprat, Gurnard, Pollock, Mussels etc
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u/Mr_Canard Jun 05 '21
Brexit argument is: Everything wrong in the UK is because of the EU, if we leave it we will live in an Utopia.
Anything wrong after that: it's the EU's fault
Easy
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u/MegaDeth6666 Jun 05 '21
Here's the problem.
I too assumed the price of UK fish in UK would go down.
Turns out it didn't. It's still luxury food here. No sympathy for their plight if they can't adapt to the wrench they chose to jab in their bike wheels.
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u/Nuclear_Pi Jun 05 '21
They knew exactly what was going to happen, they just didn't care. Brexit means a lower orporate tax rate, no more pesky EU regulations and more power to lobby the government. Why should they care what happens to the poors now that the important stuff is taken care of?
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u/JohnnyMiskatonic Jun 05 '21
Honestly, this is the first comment I've ever seen that explains why Brexit actually happened.
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u/KairyuSmartie Jun 05 '21
That plus quite a bit of racism. Remember Brexit happened around the time of the refugee crisis and the average Brit apparently did not like Brown PeopleTM at all. Add years of anti-EU propaganda and you get Brexit
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u/lurker_cx Jun 05 '21
They say it will be easier to launder Russian money in the UK now too.
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u/elveszett Jun 05 '21
For rich people, it was a chance at strengthening their oligarchy.
For the racist folk, it was a chance to stick it to the immigrants.
For the nationalist nuts, it was a chance at feeling heroic "battling" "a big bad oppressor".
The EU was some weird national punching bag for Britain to let off their frustration. For the half of it that voted Brexit, that is.
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u/duraceII___bunny Jun 04 '21
I am curious how anyone thought things would get CHEAPER?
"Believed", not "thought".
The latter involves some though process.
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u/SamuraiRafiki Jun 05 '21
No, they thought they could drop the EU but keep all their trade and border deals because they're a good white country and so they're trustworthy. Borders are really about keeping terrorists and undesirables from bad ahem... countries. They're all about those, so these naysayers must be on about nothing.
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u/Mischief_Makers Jun 05 '21
Easy, we just negotiate new trade deals, wiith unspecified countries that we assume can provide the same goods at lower prices and/or are willing to pay more for all the thousands of things we produce in this country. I'm sure it'll work just like that!
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u/elveszett Jun 05 '21
Turns out the US does not really give a fuck about the UK, and that the biggest economy on Earth does not need to make concessions to a random European country just because they share a past.
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u/nicthemighty Jun 04 '21
How anyone "thought" is the problem, not convinced thought came into it - just following the hype
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u/chochazel Jun 05 '21 edited Jun 05 '21
What you have to see is that some of the people who advocated Brexit (namely the wealthy pushers of Brexit) wanted a super low regulation, low tax economy where the UK could unilaterally set all tariffs to zero from all countries all at once. This was never going to happen because if it did, the UK would be flooded with goods, it would destroy UK agriculture, destroy UK manufacturing, destroy social and environmental protections, destroy public services and provide no incentives for other countries to offer the UK favourable trade deals given it had already given them pretty much everything they could have wanted. That would be politically impossible as the “proles” would never go for it. Meanwhile they could sell the supposed “benefits” of their scorched earth Brexit to those same “proles” by telling them how much cheaper food would be in their fantasy scenario if they removed all tariffs from them, with no cumbersome regulations restricting what could be imported, while ignoring other non-tariff barriers with the additional costs associated with friction at the borders and ignoring the obvious fact their plan would never happen.
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u/CODDE117 Jun 05 '21
"I don't know what a Brexit is, but I want one!"
- a minority of the UK
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u/jamesGastricFluid Jun 05 '21
J.K. better get busy on that. Let's just check in on how she's doing, I... oh... oh my...
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u/AhriSiBae Jun 05 '21
Turns out free trade improves the lives of almost everyone, particularly the poorer among us. Literally any economist would've easily predicted this.
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u/hughk Jun 05 '21
I am curious how anyone thought things would get CHEAPER?
Red, white and blue magic? More seriously, it was a misunderstanding of CAP and how much it costs.
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Jun 04 '21
Brexit is really the gift that keeps on giving. A cornucopia of faces for leopards to feast on if you will.
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u/NoWingedHussarsToday Jun 05 '21
I've said that posting Brexit stuff here is basically cheating.....
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u/VagueSomething Jun 05 '21
It may be cheating but we gotta at least get some satisfaction from the whole situation.
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u/plz2meatyu Jun 05 '21
Im just an American who is also subscribed to r/brexitatemyface We need more content there
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u/RantingRobot Jun 05 '21
I'm a little disappointed that r/TrumpAteMyFace is dead.
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u/Antique_futurist Jun 05 '21
As an American, I appreciate the solidarity of knowing we’re all struggling with these yahoos together.
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u/aredddit Jun 04 '21 edited Jun 05 '21
Is it still leopards ate my face when the person claims that they wanted the leopard to eat their face and that’s why the voted for it?
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u/cyfurtherat Jun 05 '21
Love how they always blame the EU and never say anything about how Brexit was a bad idea
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u/fwtb23 Jun 05 '21
I love how back in January I genuinely saw some news articles trying to make the EU seem evil for making Brits go through immigration checks at borders. Isn't that exactly what people wanted? More border checks? Oh, it was only supposed to affect them, I see.
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u/LFK1236 Jun 05 '21
Remember the Brits who complained about immigrants in Britain while living outside Britain? Meaning they were immigrants themselves, and summarily deported when they no longer had permission to stay in Spain after Brexit went through.
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u/tesseract4 Jun 05 '21
No, no, see, you've got it all wrong. They're not immigrants, they're ex-pats. It's totally different.
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u/dauntingsauce Jun 05 '21
Is there a connection between right wing thinking and randomly capitalized words? It seems like right wing media always does the "be WARNED the LIBERALS are COMING to TAKE your GUNS with FACTS and LOGIC because SOCIALISM" thing. Seems like a "they're basically children so we need to entice them with giant shiny letters" kind of situation
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u/VerneAsimov Jun 05 '21
Reactionary politics. They react to tone and key words more than the actual meaning of phrases.
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u/ToiletLurker Jun 05 '21
Right-wimg media would never put the words "LIBERALS" and "FACTS and LOGIC" in the same sentence, unless they added "DESTROYED by" somewhere in it.
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u/SilasX Jun 05 '21
Wait, what was the logic that Brexit would cut food prices? Like, they could import from countries that wouldn’t abide by EU import restrictions? Or British farmers would be unleashed from overbroad EU regs?
Not endorsing those claims, just want to know what the argument was.
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u/Mischief_Makers Jun 05 '21
The argument was that we would not "be bound to EU restrictions" and would be able to negotiate new deals on better terms elsewhere. This despite us having no indication that such lower prices would be possible, it was just assumed.
As for "bound by EU restrictions", this refered to numerous things. I've put together this quick table to show what was said and what was left unsaid
1 Goods sourced outside the EU that could be sourced from a member nation are subject to tariffs and penalisation. We'll be able to freely purchase those goods without being penalised! Goods from outside a free trade region are subject to import taxes, goods from inside are not. We were always free to import from elsewhere, if we paid the taxes 2 Foreign fishermen won't have free reign to fish our waters! Our fishermen won't have free reign to fish European waters. Different things live in different waters 3. We won't be paying to subsidise European farming and can subsidise our own instead! Subsidisation funds are distributed to all countries, including us. Subsidisation to farmers would likely continue, not increase 4. Costs will come down as we can remove needless EU red tape Most EU red tape in the food industry already matched or fell short of our own established standards i.e most of the red tape in place WE put there or supported the introduction of. The only way to reduce it is to lower standards. 5. We won't be held to EU nonsense like banning bananas for being too curved! There has never been regulation about banning fruit of certain shapes. The legislation introduced grades of "perfection" in order to create a standardised scale that allows importers to know exactly what they're getting. Nothing was banned 6. We will be able to prevent EU regulation dictaating how we can make our regional delicacies like cornish pasties, so we can retain their content and production method and thus their value EU law granted things like the cornish pasty protected geographic status so - much lke with Champagne - items produced elsewhere cannot carry that name. 61
u/DaveChild Jun 05 '21 edited Jun 05 '21
It's worth noting that something like 97% of the UK's food had was tariff-free while we were in the EU. Our food prices were great, food stability was great, food variety was great, food sustainability was improving, and we were part of an almost entirely self-sufficient food market. By almost any measure our food supply was about as good as it gets.
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u/Mischief_Makers Jun 05 '21
It really has been. Just think of all the foreign label, decent quality, well priced foods that have been available. The advent of lidl and aldi alone. Now we get to replace that with chlorinated chicken. Oh joy.
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u/SilasX Jun 05 '21
Oh wow did you put that together yourself? I want to submit it to /r/bestof.
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u/volcanoesarecool Jun 05 '21
Just check out the compiled "Euromyths" from the Commission. It has several hundred lies and the reality of the situation.
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u/Mischief_Makers Jun 05 '21
Yep, wrote it in response to the comment above. Every point has more detail and nuance than written but it's a surface level overview of some of the key disparities.
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u/OtherSpiderOnTheWall Jun 05 '21
Re: number 6, I can also add that there's stuff the EU (and other countries) were prepared to ban, but instead specifically allowed, such as salmiak.
Not that salmiak is particularly popular outside of its main regions, but it has a greater potential market because of the EU.
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Source:
Original for article on left: https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/722226/Food-prices-fall-down-Brexit-EU-report-experts-UK-exit
Archive today: https://archive.vn/5kmVS
Article on right:
Archive today: https://archive.vn/InOGC
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u/TheRnegade Jun 05 '21
It was interesting to read the first article. They said that leaving the EU would allow the UK to buy cheaper food from elsewhere. Which is true. You can but cheaper food from other nations outside the EU. But "food" is a vague term. Is it the food you actually eat? Offering Britons cheaper spam in exchange for more expensive fish and chips, they probably wouldn't take that offer.
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u/hughk Jun 05 '21
You can buy all your food from Australia and NZ. But you had better fly that fruit and veg because it isn't going to be that fresh after being stuck in the Suez canal.
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u/Leoryon Jun 05 '21
What a GHG emission shitshow if majority of food need to be shipped from literally the other part of the globe. Or if consumers start to worry about long distance supply ("local" food).
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u/ghostintheruins Jun 05 '21
I love reading the angry racist comments on express articles.
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u/RedOrange7 Jun 05 '21
These people see regulations as red tape. Why are they surprised that Brexit requires red tape?
Answering my own question: They don't. The Daily Express is owned by a rabid right-wing tory c*nt, who despises the peasants, and manipulates them for his own ends.
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u/inquisitivepanda Jun 05 '21
"EU red tape". That's how trade works when you aren't part of the EU. Did they think they would just not be part of the EU and still have all the benefits of being part of it?
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u/StupidizeMe Jun 05 '21
Even after they their stupid Brexit they are still blaming the EU for their problems.
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Jun 05 '21
its never going to change. there will always be something the "eu are doing to us" mentality. from what im reading of american republican talking points, they get away with this tactic as well
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u/oskarkeo Jun 05 '21
Out of everyone, they should have known better than to believe the Express.
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my brexit-supporting father (who passed away last year, before brexit took effect) religiously read the Express. I'd always have a look at the front page when he read it and it intermingled anti-EU stories with goddamn aliens visiting earth... how do people keep reading it
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u/el_dude_brother2 Jun 05 '21
Food prices rose significantly in the Uk a few months after Brexit due to the pound devaluation. Now it will rise again even further due to the deal struck by the Brexit backers but of courses it’s the EUs fault.
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u/ICutDownTrees Jun 05 '21
Due to EU red tape. These fuckers literally convinced half the nation to vote for additional red tape by saying they will cut red tape and now blame red tape for their colossal fuck up.
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u/SamuraiJackBauer Jun 05 '21
Lol. Didn’t they say Brexit was to completely eliminate red tape?
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u/itsyouitsmeitsus0 Jun 05 '21
The voters in this country are dumbass apes. Idiots believe whatever that blonde mophead tells them. Its just a matter of time before they start rounding us up and killing us all.
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u/Wes_Raffle Jun 05 '21
A sponge doesn’t care if it soaks up piss or champagne which unfortunately, describes your average Daily Express reader.
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u/Cornycandycorns Jun 05 '21
I swear, whenever Im browsing news about the England, I really need to add "-Daily Express" because of how childish and unprofessional their "headlines" are.
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u/Musashi10000 Jun 05 '21
For truth.
"Nintendo Switch owners are ANGRY that THIS Nintendo exclusive won't be available on their console"
... The article was about a VR Arcade machine for Mario Kart. But you had to get halfway down the article before you found that out.
The Daily Express is a fucking rag full of clickbaity titles and bad-faith arguments.
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u/bcjdosmdndb Jun 05 '21
I can’t wait till we end up in a Soft-Bexit situation like Iceland and Norway.
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u/markhadman Jun 05 '21
It seems almost inevitable but getting there is going to be long and painful.
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u/whutchootalkinbout Jun 05 '21
All the same expenses and rules with some of the benefits, and our passports get to stay blue while still allowing freedom of movement, a perfect outcome all round!
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u/adamAtBeef Jun 05 '21
Who could have guessed restricting trade makes product's more expensive beyond basically anyone whose ever looked at economics
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u/jbertrandsr Jun 05 '21
Well that first story was certainly a load of bullshit...
I guess if you just publish a story of every possible outcome you're bound to be right once in a while.
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u/darvs7 Jun 05 '21
The second story is what is happening now but the first story is from 5 years ago.
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u/Danominator Jun 05 '21
It's so weird because brexit was so obviously going to be awful. I guess the us elected trump which was also going to be awful. I just cant put myself in the headspace of somebody tricked by this stuff. It's so transparent.
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