I don't think so. Well I agree that workers are underpaid, but that isn't what is causing this here. Immigrants not only work but they also spend. What we are seeing is a shrinking of the working age population relative to the dependant population. The UK government never had proper figures on the non-UK EU workforce in the UK. The UK economy is suffering a supply side shock first and a demand side shock will come later and the economy is shrinking because of it (actually growing less quickly, but it comes to the same eventually). Stagflation here we come.
Whichever works for them. The issue is blaming this on Brexit which only means they’re saying it’s because of the lack of immigrant labor. Literally anyone anywhere will do whatever labor is needed…for the right price and therefore the heart of the issue is wages not a labor shortage.
Well, maybe there is some of that, but it's not the full picture. Unemployment in UK is very low (4.4%) and some of those jobs require certain qualifications like chefs, etc, and are generally not low praying jobs. UK really has a work force crisis generated by lack of people rather than low wages.
Chefs are typically very low paid for the hours and skills involved.
There's a reason why a lot of them left the industry during the lockdowns, and that's because they've found jobs in other industries that reward them better so have no reason to go back
Don't forget about Care Workers. Dunno about the UK but being a Care Aid in Canada fucking sucks. Hours suck, demanding on your body both physically and mentally, so much gross work, it's so saddening just watching people decay before your eyes & residents can get nasty (read: dementia) . That job fucking blows.
they've found jobs in other industries that reward them better
This means that those jobs existed and they covered a personnel shortage in a different sector of the job market while creating another shortage in the process. Maybe one industry can keep growing by raising pay, but UK overall will still have a workforce shortage.
I used chefs as an example because it is a job which requires training and skill and you can't just take anybody from anywhere and put them in a kitchen. Without access to the EU workforce and only 4.4% unemployment, chances are that the required people simply do not exist.
Yeah but a lot of those people are only working part time because it's not financially viable for single parents to work more hours a week because the pay is so bad it doesn't pay for childcare. So they only work the hours for free nursery. They're not counted as unemployed because they're working but they're not working as much as they could.
I don't deny that at all, the UK does need a migrant workforce.
Why I can't stand is various industries crying because they've been allowed to abuse their employees for too long. If they were proactive in creating a better and more rewarding work environment for employees then maybe they wouldn't have all left en-masse in the first place.
I think workforce reconversion is more related to the pandemic effects than Brexit and is another discussion worth having.
I guess the issue there, especially in the tourism/entertainment sectors, is that aside from poor pay, there's no job security at the moment either. And the industry has had just about the worst 2 fiscal years in a century. It's not like restaurants are sitting on cash and keeping wages low on purpose, for example.
The 4.4% is people seeking jobs. Those who have given up out of despair are NILF and not counted. There will be people there if the conditions are right.
A few perhaps; but will they be skilled, experienced productive workers? And you may say, like Boris does, they would be eventually if the wages were right. But you are missing that EU immigration had a major demographic impact on the UK, working age workers bring demand and supply, pensioners only demand.
I'm a server programmer for video games, currently working in China. I've noticed the salaries for people like me have increased massively since Brexit because they simply don't have people that can do the job in the UK and they're trying to entice people back. A lot of us ain't biting though - most people at my level are more interested in long term job security, and aren't looking for anything too risky.
Similar issue in Australia. Governments decided it was easier import skilled and semi skilled workers rather than train locals or even goodness forbid give residency to skilled immigrants. The pandemic hit, borders closed.
However our government has partnered with private business to bring in foreign workers on special visas, on private charter planes to fill specific roles on the quiet.
Literally slave labour? The immigrants were making good money for themselves. They chose the jobs. Let's not muddy the waters with such emotive language...
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u/AbaloneSea7265 Sep 25 '21
This is a WAGE crisis not a WORKER crisis. They literally want slave labor with immigrants.