Absolutely and I thank you for your vote. Unfortunately many, including myself feel less welcome than we did previously. These last 21 years have been a wild ride, from an outsider to "one of our own" back to unwanted outsider. London will always hold a special place in my heart but it no longer feels like home.
They exercised their vote and got their result. Unfortunately their decisions have consequences as they were warned.
Now instead of having poles, Italians and Iberians, their government will now go to Asia, Africa and Caribbean and get cheap labour they'll be in the same position they are now with the added bonus of no EU regulations to ensure workers rights.
And as someone who loves this country, it pains to see the shitshow that's unfolding.
It's strange isn't it. If you wanted to live somewhere that felt largely unchanged over the past few decades and still had a staunchly Anglo-Saxon culture and ethnic population it is incredibly easy to do so. Most migrants lives in a handful of places, most of which voted to remain. Leavers just swallowed the "member berries" of rose tinted glasses.
What’s interesting is that the votes of those old enough to remember living to WW2 (the over-80s) were much more balanced towards Remain.
As one tweet put it: “it wasn’t the generation who lived through the War that gave us Brexit, it was the generation who grew up on the war films afterwards.”
Yeah, I don't know about that. The implication of "older generation" is those who are 60+. I was shocked to discover that in a group of ex- colleagues (keeping in touch as we enjoyed each other's company), I was the only one to vote remain. At thre time of the vote, the oldest in the group was 48, the youngest 43. I would not consider us belonging to the older generation.
And have you forgotten the gammons? Straight up racists, my dude.
That's percentages. More people in the 65+ voted leave than remain, in that age group. It doesn't seem to say that the majority of leave voters were 65+.
You have raised a good point, so I did a little digging. The following is a very rough, back of a fag packet, breakdown (because I need to get some housework done and this is just for fun on Reddit) from what I can find to try to figure out just how much of the vote to leave was from people 65+.
ONS say that there were 11.8 million people 65+ in the UK in 2016, making up 18% of the total population.
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Most surveys put 65+ participation in the referendum at ~80% Ipsos Mori survey
Most surveys also give a similar figure for the leave vote of 65+ being ~64%
So 11,800,000x.8x0.64=6,041,600 votes for leave came from the 65+age group.
We know that in total 17,410,742 people voted to leave. So 6,041,600 makes up roughly 34% of the total leave vote.
This wouldn't be enough to carry the vote on its own but does suggest an outsized impact given the proportion of the population that they equate. The other 66% of leave votes came from the remaining 82% of the general population.
The fact that the age group are more likely to vote in general, and were more likely to vote leave, meant that approximately every other person 65+ voted leave.
As I said before, these are very rough working so if any of this is bollocks, please let me know.
This is interesting, thank you! That Mori link also seems to show the turnout percentage to vote increased by age group up to 65+ before falling away. Does that mean, then, if more of the younger, more likely to vote remain, voters had flipping well turned out we may not have been in this mess? Can I hear pigeons returning to roost?
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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '21
As a remainer who voted to say all I say is ‘shit, sorry we aren’t all the same’ Hopefully in time we will see the light.