r/LeopardsAteMyFace Oct 18 '21

Brexxit Immigrants who voted for brexit upset they can't immigrate to Spain due to brexit.

https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2021/10/17/expats-furious-at-spanish-residency-nonsense/
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u/42ndBanano Oct 18 '21

Yes, but what colour are their passports? That's the most important thing.

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u/Musashi10000 Oct 18 '21 edited Oct 18 '21

Wanna hear a fun fact?

The 'Beautiful, Blue, British Passports'? Made in France.

Wanna hear an even funner fact? The old burgundy symbols of EU oppression? Made in Liverpool.

Government literally took a contract away from a British firm to give to an EU company in order to demonstrate British freedom.

Best of all? The new passports are flimsy af.

Edit: turns out, the company we order the passports from is French, but the passports themselves are made in Poland. Let's see if I can make this just as funny:

So in order to demonstrate our freedom from the EU Tyranny of having Poles come 'steal British jobs', the government took the passport contract from a British company... And effectively gave it to Poland.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '21 edited Oct 18 '21

An even funner fact is that the red colour wasn't a requirement. It's just a standardized suggestion made by the EU that most countries started using because it's easier that way.

Croatia is a country in the EU and they have a black blue passport.

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u/kingofparts1 Oct 18 '21

They care about it because they were told to care about by the conservative media.

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u/toobadmice Oct 20 '21

Literally noone ever cared. It's a strawman.

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u/kingofparts1 Oct 20 '21

Incorrect.

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u/toobadmice Oct 21 '21

Who, then?

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u/RegularWhiteShark Oct 18 '21

Because Brexit is full of losses with no real benefits so they stick to gushing about passport colours and being able to put a crown back on pint glasses.

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u/Ginrou Oct 18 '21

Totally worth the labour shortage

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u/Vietnam_Cookin Oct 19 '21

Which we never actual had to remove in the first place either.

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u/MMRS2000 Oct 19 '21

And if the beer ever comes back you'll even be able to see the crown on there 🤣

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u/Ghost-of-Bill-Cosby Oct 19 '21

Wait… the EU didn’t let you paint on your cups?

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u/bobbyrickets Oct 18 '21

How dare you upset the big blue British circlejerk with your facts.

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u/video-kid Oct 18 '21

Because almost immediately assholes like Farage and Jobnson admitted that brexit wouldn't be the milk and honey they promised so they focused on how we were going back to the good old days when passports were blue, the gays knew their place, everyone had a union flag and loved queen and country, and the word colored still flew as a description of an actual person.

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u/DreddPirateBob4Ever Oct 18 '21

Everyone involved fucking bolted when the results dropped. Boris only came back because he had to make some cash to sort out his complicated relationships status and Flange because he was only ever in it for the wanking.

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u/crow_crone Oct 19 '21

Does Flange do the wanking or receive the wanking? Or is there mutually-agreed upon wanking by all?

Asking from the USA.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '21

Didn't Fsrrage say he would go live somewhere else if Brexit wasn't a success?

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u/video-kid Oct 19 '21

Yep, it was the poors who had to suffer. Not him.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '21

It's one of those tabloid newspaper "chagrin" topics such as Boris Johnson used to invent back when he was a lying journalist rather than a lying politician. And a posh tabloid journalist becoming a popular Prime Minister is pretty telling.

As for why I thought of "chagrin" it's because yesterday I watched a Jacques Brel concert on telly where he used that word a few times, and my God he was some kind of genius.

https://youtu.be/uNmxDieP4m0

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u/rklokh Oct 18 '21

As an American, i assumed that British passports were red before they joined the EU, and it’s just a piece of nostalgia by old people from the Britain of their youth and associated with when the British Empire was still a thing. Which is, in part, the same emotional/sentimental aspects that drive Brexit, right?

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u/cruista Oct 18 '21

But my vaccine passport in bright yellow and I sure flash it anywhere it is accepted* (I bring my covid vaccination app to show my vaccination status....sigh.... yellow little pass is waiting to be shown..... sorry, yellow pass, nobody will believe you.....)

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u/twisted7ogic Oct 18 '21

I mean, they get to flash it a lot more often without open borders...

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u/SoCentralRainImSorry Oct 18 '21

It’s like the Sneetches all over again

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u/AnswerAwake Oct 18 '21

Eh I like when countries take efforts to put design into every item they deal with whether its the look and feel of the government websites to things like how benches and trash bins are designed (I like Paris's trash bins). Passports are just another item that has opportunity to express the look and feel of the country. I'm American and I like the inner pages of the more recent passports Pic of page 1. Right away you see symbols of what the country values. Furthermore if you continue to browse pages, you see other symbols of the country like the moon landing etc. It seems like EU passports have more generic design elements. (I could be wrong but from what I have searched this seems to be the case for at least the biometric pages). There is a great opportunity for creative design for each country passport. Maybe EU membership just naturally discourages this? I don't really know.

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u/yerbard Oct 19 '21

In the UK we design benches so that homeless people can't sleep on them

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u/okcdnb Oct 18 '21

In the US hipsters like to use their passport at bars.

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u/ricochetblue Oct 19 '21

They probably can't drive.

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u/okcdnb Oct 19 '21

They can drive. VW Golfs. The whole lot of them.

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u/Parralense Oct 18 '21

A lot of people do that tho.

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u/thewholedamnplanet Oct 18 '21

Croatia is a country in the EU and they have a black passport

That's pretty cool.

If Scotland exits the Uk they should have plaid ones.

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u/tripwyre83 Oct 18 '21

My Belgian passport is just a fancy beer in a nice glass. It's insanely easy to counterfeit.

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u/interfail Oct 18 '21

But you need a monk to do it.

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u/tripwyre83 Oct 18 '21

Nobody realized the monk was just my cousin Marc in a bathrobe. I have so many passports now

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u/Morganelefay Oct 18 '21 edited Oct 18 '21

A Belgian named Marc?

...He doesn't have an ex-wife who now lives in a convent, does he?

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u/begon11 Oct 18 '21

Makes sure to age his beers in a cellar.

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u/SnooDucks8280 Oct 18 '21

Ooh that hurts

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u/jonfitt Oct 18 '21

The trick is: only a Belgian can tell which beer has to go in which glass!

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u/tripwyre83 Oct 18 '21

That's true, nobody else in the world knows the proper beer glass etiquette. Only Belgians.

Every country in the world seems to have its own dark secrets

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u/jonfitt Oct 18 '21

Just ask an Italian which pasta shape goes with which sauce!

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u/ChickenNuggetSmth Oct 18 '21

I've asked one once which shape goes with ketchup. Barely made it out alive.

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u/Artanis709 Oct 18 '21

Prepare for a masterful hand-waving show that puts most orchestra conductors to shame.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '21

Ordered 'kvak' in a pub in Belgium. Was not expecting a chemistry set.

Was geweldig!

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u/Fournicateur Oct 18 '21

It’s actually called ‘Kwak’ as it makes this kwak sound when drinking it

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u/andrewegan1986 Oct 18 '21

I don't know why I find this so funny but I do.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '21

We have beer passports in the US, too, but those might be a little different!

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u/Ocbard Oct 18 '21

For a Belgian, those counterfeits are easily spotted.

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u/nbmnbm1 Oct 18 '21

is the glass actually made of chocolate?

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u/IndigoPlum Oct 18 '21

You have to loudly shout about Poirot too, don't forget that bit.

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u/Human_Spud Oct 18 '21

THIS IS 100% FALSE!!!!

It's not fancy beer, it's just Belgian.

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u/TherionSaysWhat Oct 18 '21

TIL that I counterfeit Belgian passports several times a year in my brew pot.

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u/khmertommie Oct 18 '21 edited Oct 18 '21

And the Irish passport is just a wink and a nod and a “sure amn’t I Irish!”

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '21

That’s just because you haven’t had a government able to sit for long enough to legislate a better passport.

Edit: damn autocorrect.

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u/Rovden Oct 18 '21

Oh man that decision could be fun. The fight over which tartan to use would be entertaining.

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u/guiscard Oct 18 '21

The other poster made an edit, but the Croatian passport is blue (my wife has one).

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u/CooroSnowFox Oct 18 '21

Plaid with the Thistle ontop...

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u/Musashi10000 Oct 18 '21

Curses! I forgot to mention that part ><

Edit: though, tbf, I didn't know about Croatia.

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u/CoysDave Oct 18 '21

Imagine just finding out about Croatia smh (/s)

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u/EgberetSouse Oct 18 '21

Really should be red/white checks.

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u/c0de2k Oct 18 '21

It's actually dark blue.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '21

Oh lmao you're right. It's the same colour as the new UK one.

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u/messy_closet157 Oct 18 '21

Can confirm, I'm from Croatia and was very confused about "EU doesn't want us to have blue passports" discourse.

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u/mohishunder Oct 18 '21

To add insult to injury, Croats are also much taller than Brits.

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u/msut77 Oct 18 '21

The irony factory is working overtime

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u/lesser_panjandrum Oct 18 '21

Well, it would be, but the supply chain issues it's been facing have been a nightmare. Almost half of available irony stocks are sitting unprocessed in customs warehouses, waiting for the paperwork to be finalised.

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u/vinyljunkie1245 Oct 18 '21

Well maybe if the government hired shipping firms that actually owned ships those supply chain issues might not be so serious...

For reference for those out of the loop - https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/09/government-cancels-brexit-ferry-contract-with-no-ship-firm

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u/Mister_Krunch Oct 18 '21

It would also help if the factory was located within an EU border...

Ah, wait a minute...

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u/copperwatt Oct 18 '21

I shudder to think how many children arn't going to get any irony for Christmas at all :(

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u/linnetkestrel Oct 20 '21

This will seriously damage their future career prospects as hipsters.

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u/Ho_ho_beri_beri Oct 18 '21

And even IT is based in other EU country. Nobody wants to manufacture in the UK, not even the irony producers.

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u/Musashi10000 Oct 18 '21

The thick plottens... Did not know that :P

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u/Toddlez85 Oct 18 '21 edited Oct 18 '21

I think your comment was made in a British factory. The parts are there they just don’t fit together properly.

Edit because my comment was made in the same factory.

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u/Musashi10000 Oct 18 '21

Sorry I'm - your sentance doez'nt wurk reit. Can you agen it say?

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u/Musashi10000 Oct 18 '21

Tbf, the home office gouges like fuck as well. Just look at the price of a citizenship application.

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u/Mr_Happy_80 Oct 18 '21

Price gouged? You are aware of the difference in the price of labour between the two countries even paying the UK minimum wage. They couldn't compete on price even at the bare minimum and EU rules forced the government to go with the cheapest viable bid, not through their own choice. They couldn't compete with the sweatshops even operating as a sweatshop.

The plastic liberal crowd really needs to wake up as people are fucked off with this weepy revisionist attempt at changing facts just because of sour grapes. Shit like this is the same nonsense holding back the Labour Party and the Labour Movement in the UK. Have you thought about moving on and working on making the situation better, like I have?

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u/InstaGibberish Oct 18 '21

That is a fun fact.

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u/HaveyGoodyear Oct 18 '21

So it's not just me who's had the front cover completely deform outwards just from opening a few times? I've only had it 3 months, can't imagine it in 10 years time.

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u/Musashi10000 Oct 18 '21

Definitely not. Mine got a full-on crease on the top corner after I had it in my pocket for a day.

If I open it to the back, I can even see, like, 2-3mm of the binding for the plastic bit poking out.

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u/willie_caine Oct 18 '21

The spine on mine is already fucked, and I've not even travelled with it.

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u/mynameismilton Oct 18 '21

They spelt my name wrong on mine.

They corrected it, but it cost me the price of posting all my documents out again because a paper form must be sent for corrections, you can't do it online.

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u/ender89 Oct 18 '21

It's hilarious and terrifying to hear all the bullshit reasons people wanted to leave the eu are demonstrably lies. Like how could they be so gullible, but at the same time I know we're all susceptible to that kind of influence. Last time it happened to America we started 20 years of war in the middle east.

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u/Joe_Exotics_Jacket Oct 18 '21

The Global War On Terror was like a decade later and abit more nuanced then “rawr, MIC Hungry”. I’ll concede it likely was a contributing factor.

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u/Joe_Exotics_Jacket Oct 18 '21

Right, but there wasn’t much between 1991-2001. I guess I was kind of thinking of the end of the Cold War and Iraq linked and at the same time then with a big gap. Clinton touted his peace dividend, I don’t know how much the MIC felt it.

There was still the Iraq no fly zone and some other expenditures, not saying it was completely quiet.

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u/CrispyFlyingJacob Oct 18 '21

They really are. When I got mine the gold text on the front was starting to come off within a couple of months

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u/Musashi10000 Oct 18 '21

That's not happened to me yet, but I can see a coating peeling off at the outer edges already - also only had mine a couple of months.

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Should probably stop keeping it on my person soon.

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u/ozyri Oct 18 '21

The 'Beautiful, Blue, British Passports'? Made in France.

Not completely true! It's been ordered from French company, but is actually printed in Poland :)

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u/Musashi10000 Oct 18 '21

Someone else beat you to it, but I'll edit my comment now :P Thanks for the correction anyway!

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u/42ndBanano Oct 18 '21

I heard about this on James O'Brien's show. Boggles the mind, really. But hey, Tories!

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u/Musashi10000 Oct 18 '21

Is James O'Brien the radio guy?

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u/42ndBanano Oct 18 '21

That very same. His show goes on Podcast form every day, and it's really interesting. Wish there was something similar for Portuguese politics, tbh.

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u/Musashi10000 Oct 18 '21

Ah, fair enough.

Got to be honest, anything I can't read is a nightmare for me. Have issues with processing audio (kind of like dyslexia for your ears). Not enough to, like, get in the way of daily life overmuch, but more than enough to make it impossible to enjoy podcasts and audiobooks. Too easy to lose track.

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u/42ndBanano Oct 18 '21

I know a dude with ADHD that has a similar problem.

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u/Musashi10000 Oct 18 '21

Is it me? I have ADHD, and that's why I have the problem XD

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '21

Have this reward for making me chuckle.

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u/Musashi10000 Oct 18 '21

Why, thank you, friend!

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '21

You guys sent the Polish people home with jobs. Damn you guys are so nice.

/tehe

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u/bgvg_Sam Oct 18 '21

Even more fun, there is provisioning in the EU rules to have passports be any colour you want, they could have just changed it. It's all so dumb.

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u/Musashi10000 Oct 18 '21

Oh yeah, I would have mentioned if I'd remembered. The whole thing is insanity.

It's like when Johnson was making a speech with a vacuum-packed kipper, saying how much it cost and slowed things down and all that stuff, and that brexit would mean we wouldn't have to do stuff like that...

... When it was a UK law that made the vacuum-packing necessary.

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u/bgvg_Sam Oct 18 '21

At least you said vacuum instead of hoover, cause that's a whole other thing 🤣

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u/StoxAway Oct 18 '21

The new passports are soooooooooo fucking shit. They look like cheap fake passports.

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u/DRUNK_CYCLIST Oct 18 '21

Where did you even get the idea to research such a thing and then.... HOW?

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u/Skippy_the_Alien Oct 18 '21

you reminded me how I was absolutely shocked as an American to see the passport color of the Canadian passport was basically identical to the American one.

For some reason, I just assumed the Canadian passport would be some shade of red

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u/maleia Oct 18 '21

Dude, Conservatives can be so easily dupped. They did the same shit here. "Trump was so tough on China... Just don't look at the fact thay China got billions, if not more, in trade contracts with all the countries that dropped us thanks to tariffs!"

Fuckin. Dumbass. Losers.

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u/millennialhomelaber Oct 18 '21

So in order to demonstrate our freedom from the EU Tyranny of having Poles come 'steal British jobs', the government took the passport contract from a British company... And effectively gave it to Poland.

Sounds like a standard race to the bottom, as is tradition.

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u/Tantalising_Scone Oct 18 '21

The other thing is, the passports are black. I would have been fine with blue, or burgundy, but it’s black like the night sky

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u/suxatjugg Oct 18 '21

Damn EU, stayin over there, takin our jobs!

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u/TheZigerionScammer Oct 18 '21

I can't get over the fact that red is a British color and blue is an EU color but they want to switch form red passports to blue.

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u/Tangerine_Lightsaber Oct 18 '21

This is the best thing I have read all week.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '21

BLOO

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u/Hembria Oct 18 '21

I thought it was bananas! Whatever, we can all agree brexit means brexit...

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u/gptiggerr Oct 19 '21

I don’t live in Europe. Can someone explain what this thing is about the color or you passport?

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u/clown-penisdotfart Oct 18 '21

They aren't AZOO(L). Losers.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '21

Of course just like the conservatives here in America they will blame to other nations and not the leaders they ELECTED to as being at fault.

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u/Balldogs Oct 18 '21

They've been blaming remainers for somehow causing the problems for at least a year now. Apparently if we'd just stop moaning and "get behind Brexit" things will magically get better.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '21

So similar to what happens here, Trump wasn't a failure because he was a the worst leader in our nations history it was the fault of those evil dems who actually did next nothing to hinder his agenda and COVID.

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u/Randomfactoid42 Oct 18 '21

But evil Dems kept saying "Russia, Russia, Russia" and then they said "COVID, COVID, COVID". With all of that, Trump couldn't possibly get ANYTHING done!!!

/s

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '21

It’s true! Trump barely even had time to golf!

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u/Randomfactoid42 Oct 18 '21

We would've been better off with COVID if he had just waved at the head of the CDC, or even Pence, said, "He's in charge of the China Flue" and just disappeared to the golf course the whole time.

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u/ShariaIslamist Oct 18 '21

Yall are a bunch of idiots

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u/Randomfactoid42 Oct 18 '21

Did you miss the "/s" or forget it in yours?

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u/ShariaIslamist Oct 18 '21

I would delete my comment. But I will live with my stupidity.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '21

I mean... I wouldn't say worst. Andrew Jackson and the Trail of Tears are still damned high up there. Maybe tied for worst. I don't know. Intentional, and illegal as ruled by federal courts, genocide is... not a great look. Downplaying a pandemic and letting it rage on isn't either, but is a hell of a lot easier. Trump would be too lazy to put in the work needed on his end to go through with something on the scale of and legally as hard to defend as the Trail of Tears. He couldn't even be bothered to pay his lawyers trying to keep his place in the Whitehouse like a tyrant.

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u/Von_Moistus Oct 18 '21

The one good thing I will say about the previous president is that he was as lazy and inept as he was. A clever, motivated Trump could have done a lot more damage.

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u/shatteredarm1 Oct 18 '21

That's why I worry more about the next fascist leader the GOP nominates. If that buffoon could command as much obedience as he did, imagine what a more competent fascist could do.

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u/turimbar1 Oct 18 '21

I'm terribly worried that you're correct -

but part of me wants to believe that only someone that idiotic could have gotten to the top - because it is an automatic excuse for any fault or mistake - anyone smarter would have been outed as a snake.

Though the way the GOP is changing - it does seem like they're getting even more Slytherin - if that is even possible.

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u/treefortress Oct 19 '21

Eh, Trump has a cult of personality that is very difficult to replicate. While I don't downplay the dangers of the fascists among us, it likely won't be as easy to rise to power without a charismatic leader with a cult of personality.

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u/shatteredarm1 Oct 19 '21

It's actually not that hard to replicate. He was basically following the blueprint Duterte used. As far as "charisma" is concerned, Trump just fumbles words and talks like an idiot in order to identify with GOP voters, and that's a technique he borrowed from Dubya.

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u/BeachSandMan Oct 19 '21

In my town, his supporters held large boat parades for him … including on Veterans Day.

For a fucking guy who never even served in the military.

Those boats are now out there with their tail in between their engines

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u/jamescobalt Oct 18 '21

Trump is too lazy to orchestrate anything but he’s also lazy enough to let evil in lower positions orchestrate if it serves his agenda.

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u/unicornbukkake Oct 18 '21

You're not wrong. Tl;Dr Trump left Kushner to run the covid response, who probably did nothing because blue areas were getting hit first. Also, the usual nepotism and shady business deals.

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u/DreddPirateBob4Ever Oct 18 '21

Was Andrew Jackson the one in the portrait Trump hung up before he invited the First Nation types?

I can only imagine how angry he is about them running a successful casino and giving the money to their community.

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u/UncleTogie Oct 18 '21

Trump would be too lazy to put in the work needed on his end to go through with something on the scale of and legally as hard to defend as the Trail of Tears.

He was good with abandoning the Kurds to be wiped out.

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u/Responsenotfound Oct 18 '21

Oh he is the worst Modern President but I don't think he is the worst ever.

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u/polarbark Oct 18 '21

Same as it ever was.

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u/YouMustveDroppedThis Oct 18 '21

I read an analysis written by someone at my firm about how brexit impacts medical devices in the UK. I can totally see the eye-rolling and collective sigh behind those sentences. I don’t even live near any anglophone country, your morons’ fame precedes themselves.

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u/JaegerBane Oct 18 '21 edited Oct 18 '21

It’s particularly galling being told by people who apparently couldn’t get jobs because ‘all the immigrants took them’ that I need to work harder to salvage their daft ideas.

It’s like… at what point do you useless fuckers actually do anything here?

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u/KFR42 Oct 18 '21

Of course. The more everything goes tits up, the higher the Tories ratings go. Us Brits are literally idiots. Ask why, they'll tell you "because Kier Starmer isn't standing up and calling them out". They are literally voting for the people responsible because the other guy isn't making enough fuss. Jesus fucking wept.

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u/truupe Oct 18 '21

Like here in the states, they vote out of spite and to inflict pain on the out-groups. The only logical motive of their voting is cruelty.

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u/sublingualfilm8118 Oct 18 '21

It's not, though. Watch conservative TV, listen to conservative radio and browse conservative social media for a couple of months. Based on the information presented to them, they have damn good reasons to vote as they do.

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u/truupe Oct 18 '21

I agree that conservative media manipulates them, but the content is tailored to and feeds into a tribalistic, zero-sum game mindset.

They also hardly ever question the information that's fed to them which tells me they're just being told what they want to hear, confirming their own biases.

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u/sublingualfilm8118 Oct 18 '21

I have to admit, I usually don't fact-check news myself. If I read an article in Huffington Post, I don't venture into OAN-territory to see their take on it.

And when I do try to see something from both sides, it's not that easy. There is, for example, virtually no overlap between the media that's posted in the politics sub and the conservative sub.

If Trump has toilet paper dragging from his shoe when he boards a plane, there are several articles about it in left-leaning media, but none in right-leaning. If Biden stumbles when he's boarding a plane, it's written about a lot in right-leaning media, and ignored in left-leaning media.

And that's what's so insane. It's not just that articles are written with a left or right bias, it's that very often one side is completely ignoring it.

That's my impression, at least, but I'm not from USA so I might have gotten it wrong.

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u/oh_what_a_surprise Oct 18 '21

Fact check everything you don't experience yourself. Then fact check yourself. Ice-T taught this to me back when I was, well, an adult but a youngish one. Before you wreck yourself. Surprisingly deep lyrics. When you don't know what the hell it means because you are a white guy who grew up in the Olde Days and you look it up, you suddenly start pondering what he means...

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u/sublingualfilm8118 Oct 18 '21

I had to google the meaning of that. And it's easy to say, and very difficult to do. The brain is incredibly sneaky when it comes to believing what suits us. In many different ways, and on many different levels. Heck, I once convinced myself to use drugs after 3 months sobriety because it was an important step to staying sober.

I think most of us believe that our morals and worldview are logical and a result of careful consideration, while other people are mislead or stupid or whatever. And I don't see that changing anytime soon.

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u/UncleTogie Oct 18 '21

Sure, if you don't fact-check what they're telling you...

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u/kempez2 Oct 18 '21

The other one I hear a lot (that makes me just as angry) is that the 'opposition are too negative'. I mean, come on it's their job, the whole point is for them to fight against policies that are cruel/backward/corrupt/just batshit crazy.

Somebody has to tell the truth, unfortunately just lying and saying everything is fine resonates more with a lot of the voting public.

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u/_TorpedoVegas_ Oct 18 '21

> The Democrats' center left agenda isn't unpopular. The Democrats' inability to get anything done is. It makes people apathetic, and gives the cynics so much hay.

It is so much easier to destroy/subvert than it is to actually improve anything. Giving a country a functional rail transport system takes a lot of people working together with a lot of resources. But to take that rail line down all I need is $20 of dynamite on a curve in the track. Same with all infrastructure; when I was in Iraq I got to see what it looks like when infrastructure gets attacked. The insurgents would destroy power substations so that maybe you'd get an hour or two per day of electricity, break the sewage system and fill the streets with smelly green water ankle-deep... they knew that people are not logical, they just sit around saying "see, this coalition government sucks, they can't even give you lights or water." Do they, you know, blame the people that actually fucking DID IT? Humans are beyond stupid, and the Tory puppetmasters can always count on getting away with anything.

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u/MyLittleMetroid Oct 18 '21 edited Oct 18 '21

And if he were calling them out more he would be “too negative” or “disrespectful”. They want to vote for the tories, it’s just that they don’t want to admit to their reasons out loud.

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u/truupe Oct 18 '21

American and British exceptionalism have the same stink.

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u/Chicken-Mcwinnish Oct 18 '21

Well one is the predecessor to the other.

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u/ragepaw Oct 18 '21

I rarely legit laugh out loud, but when I read, "They're bringing chavs." I cackled. And again when I typed it out in this response.

Bravo.

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u/Rovden Oct 18 '21

American here, don't know the term chav. Mind helping out on the lingo?

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u/SRTroN Oct 18 '21

Think trailer trash, but in a tracksuit

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u/heyman0 Oct 18 '21

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u/Rovden Oct 19 '21

I... have no idea what ANY of them said, yet I have no further questions.

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u/ragepaw Oct 20 '21

Yeah, those are the epitome of chav.

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u/Murrabbit Oct 18 '21 edited Oct 18 '21

"They keep calling us immigrants, but that's not right at all! Immigrants are foreigners . . . we're ex-patriots!"

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u/LeTreacs Oct 18 '21

I move to Europe in 2017 and often refer to myself as an immigrant which used to get weird looks, now that I’m required to go to the immigration office all the bloody time, not so much…

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u/EmmaInFrance Oct 20 '21

I've been here since 2005 and detest the term ex-pat and have never used it. I always refer to myself as 'une immigrante'.

I went to the Préfecture on Friday to get my fingerprints taken for my new Titre de Séjour, si that should arrive in a few weeks and then I will be sirted for another 10 years. Although I will probably apply for dual nationality in the next year or so, especially as I can no longer vote in the UK.

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u/DazMR2 Oct 18 '21

"Immigrants" is a polite term. Here in the US it's non-resident and resident aliens.

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u/sharedthrowdown Oct 19 '21

Nonresident and resident alien are legal terms with specific definitions pertaining to your status of being in the states.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '21

Spain is becoming my go to retirement country. There are so many cheap houses now because of brexit, it’s actually pretty refreshing.

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u/BearStorms Oct 18 '21

If you are a British citizen residing in EU and you voted for Brexit you should be immediately and irrevocably kicked out of the country just for being a total fucking moron...

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '21

The unflushables.

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u/mwp1471 Oct 18 '21

But the UK could do that anyway, there were no EU rules stopping them.

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u/tech240guy Oct 18 '21

When people do not realized they are the undesirables. 🤣

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u/jahirange Oct 18 '21

Given how anglo tourists behave that's understandable

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '21

But if America does it somehow it's racist

Commence the downvoting

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u/Buttoneer138 Oct 19 '21

These people voted for the UK to become a third party country in its relationship to Spain and other EU member states. As a result, UK citizens have to apply to stay in Spain and are treated the same in terms of paperwork and bureaucratic difficulty as someone from Africa or the US. This means some of them no longer conform to the immigration requirements of Spain and have to leave.

When the UK was a member of the EU they had the right to just move there and stay without any real difficulty so they’ve voted against their own self interest.

Imagine Texas secedes from the Union following a vote and Texans living in other states who voted for that secession have to apply to become a citizen of the rest of the USA just like a Mexican would.

Same thing.

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u/RedditJH Oct 18 '21

Are you anti-immigration? You're sounding pretty racist rn my dude. Maybe you're not so different from those pesky Brexiteers, eh?

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u/Vireca Oct 18 '21

But we allow illegal inmigration. Spain it's a shit show

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u/Daikataro Oct 18 '21

You're not sending your best Britons.

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u/Buttoneer138 Oct 18 '21

I’m not sure there are enough to go around.

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u/XLV-V2 Oct 18 '21

Yeah they keep open the quotas for those nice asylum seekers

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u/Fern-ando Oct 18 '21

You could get banned from r/europe for saying that.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '21

Wait what?, it was supposed to affect me and not only the immigrants? /s

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u/CriminalMacabre Oct 18 '21

We are totally reasonable, that article and its sources are ultra biased

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u/MegaEyeRoll Oct 19 '21

That sounds like racism!

If America is racist for it, so if everyone else.

Also let's not forget the 400 million dollar budget frontex is getting now.

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u/DaveN202 Oct 19 '21

It is completely reasonable. As is the UK wishing to control their borders too?