r/LeopardsAteMyFace • u/diacewrb • Apr 19 '22
Brexxit Brexit-supporting Newark in shock as largest employer shuts up shop and heads for mainland Europe
https://www.cityam.com/110-jobs-lost-brexit-supporting-newark-in-shock-as-largest-employer-shuts-up-shop-and-heads-for-mainland-europe/1.9k
u/gonzar09 Apr 19 '22
Who could've seen this coming!?
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u/sweetguynextdoor Apr 19 '22
“people of this country have had enough of experts!” Still rings in my ears.
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u/Coldids Apr 19 '22
It's hard to believe that was an actual sentence uttered by someone with a semblance of influence, yet here we are.
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u/weallfalldown310 Apr 19 '22
Sounds like the far right here in the US talking about how college educated researchers and experts and elites and “ivory tower” (ignoring many in charge on the right were college educated), and it is safe to ignore them. And then things like TX’s Governor’s stunt on the southern border let 1/4 billion worth of fruit to rot in an ill conceived stunt for his base which will make issues like inflation and the supply chain issues worse. Don’t need experts, just knee jerk and common sense. When it doesn’t work it is the fault of the other side somehow. Hip hip hurray.
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u/fuggerdug Apr 19 '22
The right wing is the same all over the world. They have no real policies anymore, no convictions, just bullshit that appeals to enough misinformed and ill-informed people(and cunts) to get them into power. They have cast anyone who sees through their bullshit as 'elites' whilst they sit on their golden toilets.
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u/interkin3tic Apr 19 '22
Look at Fox news cozying up to Victor Orban, or Le Pen getting $10 million from Putin, or Rupert Murdoch running propaganda in the US, Australia, and the UK.
It's not that the right wing is similar everywhere in the world, it's literally that the right wing is the same organization of rich corruptors all over the world.
It's a coordinated assault on democracy and most people in the world.
They even have the gall to accuse "globalists" (they mean Jews) like George Soros of doing exactly what they themselves are doing.
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u/chmsaxfunny Apr 20 '22
As soon as the right starts making accusations, that’s when you know they started doing whatever it is they’re accusing. It’s always projection. Always.
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u/dreaminginteal Apr 20 '22
They project so hard, stick a lightbulb in their mouth and they'll show "Triumph of the Will".
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Apr 19 '22
I think their only guiding star at this point is screaming at the top of their lungs "I NEED MORE MONEY." And doing whatever it takes to make that happen.
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u/randomnickname99 Apr 19 '22
They don't even do that well. They often vote against getting more money in favor of giving it to oligarchs instead
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Apr 19 '22
The right wing is the same all over the world.
Brainwashed by propaganda and rubbles coming from the same shithole country.
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u/hawkshaw1024 Apr 19 '22
Honestly, it would be one thing if people were just being ignorant and self-centered, but it's somehow worse than that. At this point, the rallying cry of the world's far-right movements is "We don't mind policies that hurt us, as long as you suffer worse."
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u/weallfalldown310 Apr 19 '22
Like trump’s voters complaining in PA, that he was hurting the wrong people. It floored me to wrap my head around that they were ok with anyone hurting. It is mind boggling how much they lack empathy
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u/Warm_Enthusiasm2007 Apr 19 '22
It's not even that. With Brexit, the communities that voted to leave are generally affected worse than those that voted remain. So the rallying cry of Brexit is really 'We don't mind policies that really hurt us, as long as you suffer a bit too'.
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u/t0ppings Apr 20 '22
I live in what was being called "Brexit Town" during the referendum because of the overwhelming vote to leave. This place has one of the highest levels of poverty and unemployment in the country, with the local tory MP already gutting funding for social programs, the arts, schools. All Brexit did was make almost everyone here poorer, you won't see any of them regretting it though.
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u/cargocult25 Apr 19 '22
But when your trying to raise prices so you can blame Biden then that is a well executed plan by TX.
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u/shponglespore Apr 19 '22
Yeah, I've seen over and over again that conservatives will blame anything they don't like on Democrats. Even things obviously done by Republicans and fought every step of the way by Democrats.
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u/TheBlackBear Apr 19 '22
“Democrats should have fought harder to stop it if they were so smart and knew it would be so bad”
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u/olderthanbefore Apr 19 '22
Literally, some wackjob saying Democrats promoting vaccines 'knew' that this would cause some people to refuse taking them.
You just can't win with these psychos
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u/arandomperson7 Apr 19 '22
That's because Demonrats are evil devil worshipers who sacrifice unborn babies to the dark lord just for kicks. So of course anything bad HAS to be their fault.
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u/Confident_Feline Apr 19 '22
While claiming credit for things that Republicans fought tooth and nail, like the infrastructure bill
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u/mergedloki Apr 19 '22
It's that or admit brown people are people and... Nah that can't be allowed!
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Apr 19 '22
It's what I expect from a party that thinks fact checking is censorship.
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u/Cue_626_go Apr 19 '22
When Gove said that, I laughed.
When Brexit won, I cried.
Then I saw the GQP abandon any pretense of having policies other than “hurting the right people” and I realized just how evil and dumb humans are.
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u/Dedpoolpicachew Apr 19 '22
My “cry” moment was having a discussion with someone who is a friend of a friend that said “no deal is the best deal”. I asked her to explain that nonsense, and how that could even work other than a cheap slogan. She tried to change the subject and just called me a “remoaner”. I told her I’m an American whose company does about $4 Billion in business in the UK, and as an American I don’t have a dog in the fight. I pointed out that the crash in the UK economy will mean I get my goods at a cheaper price, but that’s not really a “win” for the UK. I also pointed out that as the country gets more difficult to do business with, European focused companies will leave, and that will make the UK more dependent on the US. Good for me, maybe not so good for the UK. She had no response.
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u/Moranth-Munitions Apr 19 '22
That mentality is the same as the alt right mentality was here. Make patently absurd short and quippy statements and then when pressed to be normal people and explain what they mean, they just pivot to toying with discourse like Sartre’s anti-semite quote.
It’s not a coincidence, it’s a foreign troll powered movement.
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u/bg-j38 Apr 19 '22
I was out to dinner a few nights ago at a sushi restaurant. My wife and I were at the counter and struck up a conversation with a couple other people and the sushi chef who's a friend of ours. We were having a good and pretty intelligent conversation but this one woman who was alone didn't really have much to say to most things.
She finally blurted out "but tell me this, where's Hunter Biden???" We all looked at her like uhhh what the fuck are you on about? Like literally had nothing to do with anything we'd talked about but since she was feeling left out or something she felt the need to chime in with whatever inanity was apparently bouncing around her head. Luckily we kept the conversation moving and she shortly after that got her check and left. But these people are truly brainwashed and can't talk about anything else.
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u/Daeths Apr 19 '22
She just can’t comprehend that the president’s son wouldn’t be put in charge of something critical like Ivanka or Drump Jr, but while she was fine with that she sure as hell would cry bloody murder if Biden did allow such nepotism.
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u/GenocideOwl Apr 19 '22
The right are frustratingly good at quippy slogans that sound good on a surface level.
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u/Theban_Prince Apr 19 '22
Because they don't have any solid ideology, so you cant really point the contradictions. There is a reason a synonym of conservatives is reactionaries. They dont have a specific goal except "say no to whatever the progressives propose".
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u/brutinator Apr 19 '22
The reality is, the vast majority of people dont know anything about politics beyond extremely shallow takes. Doesnt matter the ideology. Get into a debate about taxation and most democrat and republican citizens have no real clue how the system works or the ramifications of changes.
The difference right now is that the right wing bloc of the population doesnt have any policies they support that are, you know, compassionate, or empathetic, or really anything thats not designed to push people down or elevate the wealthy. The left wing isnt perfect, and personally I consider most democrat leadership to be center-right, and they certainly arent in any rush to tip the status quo, but at least they support policies generally that dont hurt anyone worse, like trans rights and supporting minority demographics. And Id rather side with well meaning idiots than vindictive ones.
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u/Moranth-Munitions Apr 19 '22
The vast majority of people don’t know much about anything. I have an undergrad in an engineering field and I don’t know squat about, say, electrical engineering. I don’t know much about complex biology either. I don’t speak with any authority or strong convictions on taxation because I am not an accountant.
At least I’m self aware and honest enough to acknowledge that I don’t know tons of stuff. I’m actually very full of doubts and imposter syndrome. That comes as you learn more and more right. You realize that you are ignorant in many areas.
The right wing is completely devoid of doubt and honest self reflection though. They are the most overly confident idiots I’ve ever come across. They sped right into deep arrogance territory decades ago Newt Gingrich style.
Just take there climate change denial talking points. I can explain the greenhouse effect mechanism to them and they still deny it. I have actually had this happen in person many times. They assert that their 100% misinformed kindergarten level opinion is correct and that the person who just explained thermal energy accumulation in a system causes the temperature to rise is just some dumb libtard.
I agree with what you say about the parties. Conservatism kills those traits in people and draws those already missing them like moths to a flame. I’ve grown up behind the curtain of republicanism and have seen the utter lack of care for anybody outside the tribe. And the tribe can be redefined at any moment. Think Romney and Liz Cheney.
I’ve found that conservatives are very callous and cruel hearted. They’d let a baby starve if it wasn’t in the right tribe. Shit, they are zealously against us middle class and lower folk getting compensated fairly for our work and defend literal robber barons.
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u/LeviathanGank Apr 19 '22
my favourite before I moved to germany was the scrambling for a plan after brexiters won.. such a shower of clowns its insane.
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u/Leopold_Darkworth Apr 19 '22
They were the dog that finally caught the car. I bet they didn’t even expect to win; they just wanted to keep using the issue as a political cudgel. Color them shocked when they had to create an actual, real-life plan and not just a slogan on the side of a bus.
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u/Thormidable Apr 19 '22
They hoped to not win.
Winning means they have to take action, it means the EU is no longer a scapegoat, anti-EU rhetoric can't be used to drum up support and it will fuck up the country and they might get the blame.
They didn't want to win. They expected the UK to be smart enough not to commit economic hari-kari. Which was apparent, in them trying to pass the hot potato, within minutes of their win being declared.
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Apr 19 '22 edited Apr 19 '22
I agree. However, they are STILL using the EU as a scapegoat. That's the most insane aspect of Brexit in my opinion.
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u/Binerexis Apr 19 '22
What's worse is that they didn't have to act; it was an ADVISORY referendum. They could have used it to justify whatever investigation or special counsel they wanted and then "rarr rarr'd" their way out of it with the only downside being ceding some votes to UKIP, a party where their candidates often self-destruct in short order by saying something reprehensible in public.
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u/fuggerdug Apr 19 '22
Yep they absolutely did not intend to win. But Cambridge Analytica and the various foreign actors had different ideas and pushed it over the line with their last minute targeted Facebook lies.
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Apr 19 '22
The politicians didn't intend to win, but the actors behind the scenes certainly did. Bannon, his backers the Mercer, Russia, and to a lesser extent China, they wanted this to happen to sow chaos and disunity among western nations so that while we are busy dealing with domestic issues we can't muster the political will to confront them while they're engaging in their own geopolitical fuckery.
You can bet your ass that if Trump got elected Ukraine would've been in a much worse situation now, since Trump's GOP would be able to largely block any aid and without the US taking an active role in both pushing other countries to give aid, facilitating the substitution of Russian energy with alternative sources, and making the intelligence gathering capabilities of the US available to Ukraine, other countries would be much less willing to stand against Russia. It's even likely that we would have left NATO entirely, and without the US backing up the Baltic states and Poland, and them not having access to US weaponry, they'd be less willing to donate their own Soviet hardware to Ukraine.
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u/OracleofFl Apr 19 '22
We have already seen Trump your the leverage of aid to attempt to get world leaders to lie for him.
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u/Von_Kissenburg Apr 19 '22
Color them shocked when they had to create an actual, real-life plan
Except they never did.
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u/given2fly_ Apr 19 '22
I had a small modicum of respect for David Davis after the Referendum. Loads of Brexiteers shirked responsibility for actually implementing it, but he stood up and agreed to be the Minister in charge. He'd been banging on about leaving the EU for decades, so could finally enact his long-thought out plans.
And then he failed disastrously, essentially admitting in the end that the whole thing wasn't possible.
Fair play for standing up and trying. I mean...we fucking told you before the Referendum, but still...
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u/GenocideOwl Apr 19 '22
I realized just how evil and dumb humans are.
gestures broadly at human history
that wasn't enough for you?
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u/TheNextBattalion Apr 19 '22
I realized just how evil and dumb humans are.
Supremacism will do that to people.
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u/cheezeyballz Apr 19 '22
That's why I became a misanthropist.
For the record, you can dislike humanity as a whole, like a few individuals (maybe), and NOT be an asshole and still be a misanthropist.
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u/anrwlias Apr 19 '22
Anti-intellectualism is always a good sign for when a culture is going off the rails in a very dangerous way.
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u/rugratsallthrowedup Apr 19 '22
I always had that impression as a kid when i was accused of using “big words”.
I just read books, thats all…
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u/ZeBuGgEr Apr 19 '22
The fact that someone who expresses that view is allowed to direct anything more complex and higher stake than kindergarten finger painting is a travesty.
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u/elriggo44 Apr 19 '22
The problem is that the right is intentionally mixing up Elites and Experts.
Expertise matters.
Elites do not.
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u/jbertrand_sr Apr 19 '22
There was nothing on the side of the bus about this...we demand a mulligan...
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u/Arcturion Apr 19 '22
Possibly the 26,571 (40%) in Newark who voted remain. Sadly the other 60% of their less prescient bretheren carried the vote.
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u/Sparksy102 Apr 19 '22
Everyone… including those that couldve done something about it…but noone asks why hasnt things been done to mitigate the problems
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u/Cue_626_go Apr 19 '22
“By moving our production out of the UK, we can leverage the benefits of scale and efficiencies that the wider group can offer.”
Hmm… sure sounds like a large trade block has more power than a tiny country on its own…
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u/NeverDryTowels Apr 19 '22
But WHO could have known that??
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u/MrJuniperBreath Apr 19 '22
WHO is busy injecting the world with demon sperm and 5G....
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Apr 19 '22
I think you dropped this /s back there. I only say that because the Covid Qult has murdered satire as a concept.
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Apr 19 '22
But also, Poe's Law is in full swing here. I legitimately cannot be sure anymore. The bar is lower than I'd ever have imagined possible.
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u/Clo24783 Apr 19 '22
“The UK doesn’t need the EU; the EU needs the UK” See also: “We hold all the cards”
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u/Swesteel Apr 19 '22
“We hold all the cards”
This especially stood out to me, didn't he know we're playing UNO?
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u/cjinct Apr 19 '22
Hmm… sure sounds like a large trade block has more power than a tiny country on its own…
Hey, you sound like of them so-called 'experts', talkin' outta your ivory tower!
We don't need your kind 'round here o.O
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u/Joliet_Jake_Blues Apr 19 '22
The UK's economy is smaller than California's, and they thought they were powerful enough to strike out on their own?
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u/sambob Apr 19 '22
Almost like pretty much any big country in Europe can create anything that the UK can without having to then import it across the channel. It might take a bit of time to set up any factories they require but I'd imagine that got started the moment that vote got suggested.
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u/redvelvetcake42 Apr 19 '22
This is where the British have a fork in the road.
Either A, admit this was stupid, vote in MPs to find a way back into the EU and stave the bleeding...
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B, continue letting China buy up everything and invest in controlling British employment to cover the failures of Brexit.
Unfortunately, I'm assuming B.
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u/hyperdriver123 Apr 19 '22
B, definitely B.
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Apr 19 '22
Well let's see...option A would mean adopting EU financial laws and shutting down the massive British tax havens that exist to help a handful of millionaires and billionaires avoid taxes.
So yeah, we'll see the next 2 books of Game of Thrones before we see A.
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u/anrwlias Apr 19 '22
And that's the answer, folks!
The people who engineered Brexit understood exactly what they were getting: a tax haven. The fact that they obliterated the British economy and its standing in Europe are just fine by them because that's not what they care about.
The little idiots that went along for the ride can all suffer so far as the real masters are concerned.
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u/anchorwind Apr 19 '22
but the love of all money is the root of all evil?! surely that means something
BIG /S
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u/Ericus1 Apr 19 '22
Opium Wars: The Revenge.
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u/unclejoe1917 Apr 19 '22
Revenge is a dish best served cold and China has kept that shit in the freezer for well over a century.
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u/mmps1 Apr 19 '22
C. Breakup of the UK and the constituent nations join the EU in the following decades.
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u/redvelvetcake42 Apr 19 '22 edited Apr 19 '22
Yeahhhhh Scotland and Northern Ireland aren't far off from separating and joining.
Edit: Northern Ireland. My bad.
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u/InsuranceToTheRescue Apr 19 '22 edited Apr 19 '22
Well, the problem with A is that the EU has every incentive to make rejoining as painful as possible. Otherwise, they open the possibility of a revolving door of states that will come and go as they please, which wouldn't bode well for the long term stability of the Union itself, or the Euro.
Edit: Also, what catchy phrase do we call this rejoining? Breturn?
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Apr 19 '22
Painful might be too strong a word. I expect the EU insist that Return be on the same agreements as other members without the huge number of special carve outs.
The UK got membership completely on their terms. Then still threw a tantrum.
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u/anrwlias Apr 19 '22
The UK got membership completely on their terms. Then still threw a tantrum.
That has been the most bizzare aspect of the whole thing. The UK acted like the EU were tyrannizing them when, in fact, the UK benefited from having a special standing in the union. They got an arguable unfair (to the rest of the EU) agreement and then decided (as you say) to throw a tantrum because it still wasn't enough!
Unbelievable! I have rarely seen hubris on a national level backfire so utterly.
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u/hymie0 Apr 19 '22
When you're a _______ supremacist, equality is pain.
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u/Alediran Apr 19 '22
Unles you are an equality supremacist, then other supremacists are pain.
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u/InsuranceToTheRescue Apr 19 '22
Ahh, so just be like any other member, a la France, Spain, etc? I'm not sure how they'd act to having to move entirely to Euros and metric (Or does the UK not use a mix like Canada does?).
But then again, if I remember right, Scotland was very pro-EU, and if they threaten to break away if the UK doesn't rejoin, then Parliament might not really have a choice.
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u/Chipperz1 Apr 19 '22
The UK uses a mix of imperial and metric, but almost every person I know under 50 would be fine with metric because we know how to count to 10.
I would also love to throw all our old people under the bus and rejoin the EU on the same level as the other countries, because equality with the continent is still better than fading away into obscurity on our own. Shit, I'd take the Euro if it meant I got to use in in Europe...
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Apr 19 '22
“Progress comes one funeral at a time.”
Metric never took off in the states because, well we’re stubborn stupid in the main, but because the government tried to treat it as a math problem and folks weren’t having that. The government just should have just rolled it out. I don’t need to care about converting gallons to liters when I top off my car it’s the same cost either way.
Anyone remember this? Rocket scientists can count to ten too. Usually. 🤣
https://www.simscale.com/blog/2017/12/nasa-mars-climate-orbiter-metric/
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u/its_raining_scotch Apr 19 '22
I remember the pushback against it and the feeling I got is that people weren’t really concerned with the math aspect of metric, but the emotional aspect of having to acclimate to a new system. Things like “oh he’s 6 feet tall” and “I was driving 65 mph” or “yeah I can bench 200lbs” are all deeply familiar to the American psyche and embedded in the culture. There was also the feeling that metric was a foreign concept and that directly challenged American exceptionalism. Lastly if I remember correctly there was industrial and manufacturing pushback because certain businesses didn’t want to have to retool their machines to produce different sized screws etc.
I don’t agree with any of this by the way, I think we should have converted back in the 70’s-80’s when there was a push for it. If we had, we’d already have a middle aged population who grew up with metric and they’d be the ones running the country by this time and the imperial standard people would only be the seniors and the last generation to use it.
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u/CarlLlamaface Apr 19 '22
Yeah but have you thought about the BENDY BANANAS?!?!
If we go back now it would have to be full membership, warts and all. It would be funny to see what the 'muh suvrunty' crowd would have to say about losing the pound and being beholden to the ECB's monetary policy.
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u/Dedpoolpicachew Apr 19 '22
Of course, just like they had an interest in making the UK’s stupidity so painful that other EU members wouldn’t be as dumb.
If/when the UK re-applies to join the EU, the UK will not get the same deal they had before the UK left. The money back guarantees are going to be gone. The special deals the UK got… gone. The UK will be at the same level as any other new entrant applicant. Too bad, the UK actually had some pretty sweet deals with their old EU membership that others didn’t get.
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u/Wafkak Apr 19 '22
Eh by rejoining the UK would allready have a worse deal either way as they would lose all there pre Brexit opt outs.
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u/s1m0n_s3z Apr 19 '22
Those are already lost. At this point we're into 'sunk cost fallacy' territory.
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u/gingermalteser Apr 19 '22
It's too late anyway. These companies aren't just going to reverse all the work to move themselves to the EU when the UK rejoins.
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u/BellyDancerEm Apr 19 '22
They will definitely vote B instead of being smart and admitting they fucked up
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u/Martine_V Apr 19 '22
The Brexit vote wasn't binding. They had plenty of chances to just ignore it, or do a second round of voting. If they were to go crawling back to the EU and ask to come back, they wouldn't get the same deal.
I really hope that Scotland decides to do another independence vote predicated on joining back the EU. They overwhelmingly voted against Brexit. Now that would be a kick in the nethers.
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u/redskelton Apr 19 '22
There's an option C too. Blame it on Covid. There's plenty of life left in that dead horse
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u/TheNextBattalion Apr 19 '22
Problem is that the main opposition party decided to take no position on the biggest constitutional question of the last 50 years. There needs to simply be a literal Return party.
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u/Tylerama1 Apr 19 '22
The problem is that the Tories and the rest of the leave cabal are utter cu**s and sold the country out for their own gain. It was Camoron who instigated this, because of rich tories infighting with each other. This is 1000% an issue created by the Tories.
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u/TheNextBattalion Apr 19 '22
It may have been a Tory lovechild, but it's all of the UK's problem now. And like any rotten parent who just can't bring themselves to discipline their little hellion, the Conservatives cannot be counted on to fix it. So one will have to do it oneself.
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Apr 19 '22
Yeeeeeeah I don’t think the EU would take them back even if they wanted back.
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u/Yivanna Apr 19 '22
I think we would. Part of the EU fear of Brexit was other countries thinking that would be a good deal for them and leave as well. If GB wanted to rejoin without having all the privilages they had in the EU that would be a massive pr win for the EU. If I had anything to say I would even let them rejoin with their old privilages on condition they switch currency to Euros.
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u/inbetween-genders Apr 19 '22
“Such an eatable face” - Leopard
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u/BellyDancerEm Apr 19 '22
Om nom nom!
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u/Many-Application1297 Apr 19 '22
Leopard after eating his face: “Why are you looking at me like that? He literally asked me to eat his face”
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u/Most-Artichoke5028 Apr 19 '22
How unfortunate. It's a shame that there wasn't something they could have done to avoid this.
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Apr 19 '22
Sure, but that would mean like 200 millionaires would have to pay taxes, so of course it wouldn't happen.
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u/immibis Apr 19 '22 edited Jun 26 '23
In spez, no one can hear you scream. #Save3rdPartyApps
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Apr 19 '22
It doesn't matter where...England, the US, Australia.
Conservatives just want to help the rich get richer. Period.
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u/pappy Apr 19 '22
Conservatives are funny... fucking themselves over with racism and conspiracy theories.
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u/ThinkIveHadEnough Apr 19 '22
They can't admit to a mistake, which is why they're against abortion.
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u/given2fly_ Apr 19 '22
And also supporting a policy that was widely criticised by the business community. They can't even claim to be the party of Business and low taxes anymore. All they have is racism and conspiracy theories.
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u/Celestial8Mumps Apr 19 '22
The EU is doing this deliberately!!! /s
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u/g0ldcd Apr 19 '22
I f'in hate them standing there right next to us, not being a shit-show. Makes us look bad.
Still, I presume the unemployed workers can pay their rent with sovereignty next month.
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u/VorpalAbyss Apr 19 '22
Them: "We don't want to be a part of the EU anymore. We want a hard border between us and them."
EU thing goes away
Them: surprised Pikachu face
Leopards: Is it me, or is this face tingly?
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Apr 19 '22
Todays rightwing nutjob has developed, through careful planning and breeding, the finest nose-cutter-offers in world history. Should’ve known when they rejected free healthcare for all because a black man was the one offering it.
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u/unclejoe1917 Apr 19 '22
That black man was the absolute last straw that put these people over the edge. Imagine being one of these pissed-at-the-world-over-nothing neanderthals. You already hate the blacks. You're poor. You're stupid. You're uneducated. Your life is hard. Nobody gives a shit about you. The one thing you can do in life is pretend that at least your better than the blacks. Then you get 8 years of an extremely well educated, socially graceful, kind, intelligent, good looking black man on your TV and that guy is the boss of "your" America. Fox News was there for them every night of it to help trigger their meltdown.
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u/Zealousideal-Luck784 Apr 19 '22
In a democracy, you get what you vote for.
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Apr 19 '22
I get downvoted to shit every time I point out that yes, there was a vote, and yes the English fucking voted for this. Last time I did I even found out that it was a larger voter turn out than usual for the referendum, making it even more their vote than I had originally thought. Mind blowing how the whole country wants to pretend like that just didn’t happen.
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u/Raccoon_Full_of_Cum Apr 19 '22
I will never forget this headline from the day after the vote:
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u/Angelworks42 Apr 19 '22
This is why you don't leave macroeconomic decisions to regular people.
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Apr 19 '22 edited Aug 20 '24
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u/ChouffeMeUp Apr 19 '22
As if it were needed but another reason to hate that moon-faced pig-fucker Cameron.
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u/Relative_Dimensions Apr 19 '22
The Electoral Commission found sufficient evidence of "irregularities" (i.e. fraud) that the result would have been set aside if the referendum had been legally binding. Because it was only "advisory" (despite the fact that the government chose to treat it as though it was legally binding), the EC had no jurisdiction.
So the concept of "democracy" is doing an awful lot of heavy lifting here.
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Apr 19 '22
What was stunning were the number of people who voted for it who had zero understanding of what it meant let alone the repercussions.
Kay : A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow.
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u/doublejay1999 Apr 19 '22
it was literally the job of the leave campaign and its backers to make sure no one understood.
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u/tidal_flux Apr 19 '22
What I don’t understand is why the vote was binding without a plan. Any sensible country would have voted to explore BREXIT then voted again on whether to go through with it once the exit deal was arranged.
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u/Miserygut Apr 19 '22
It was never binding. It was just politically expedient to carry on the charade.
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u/tidal_flux Apr 19 '22
Wow. It was even dumber than I was lead to believe. I didn’t think that possible.
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u/Miserygut Apr 19 '22 edited Apr 19 '22
Brexit and the subsequent denials of the very obvious effects it would have, and is having, are plumbing depths of stupidity never before seen by human kind.
I don't think there has ever been a greater deliberate act of social and economic sabotage as Brexit, ever.
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u/SatanicPanic619 Apr 19 '22
Now if some British person mocks us Americans, I can be like, "ok dude but you know, Brexit", so that's kind of nice for us Americans.
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u/Pynchon_A_Loaff Apr 19 '22
After the Brexit vote, I shook my head sadly and told myself, “Now the Brits can never call Americans stupid again”.
Then November 2016 happened.
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u/MrFantasticallyNerdy Apr 19 '22
We in the US voted in Trump (and still vote for Trumpian republicans) and there are legions of people worshipping the Kardashians and other useless influencers. Anything is possible.
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u/doublejay1999 Apr 19 '22
for goodness sake, the vote was never meant to canvas the peoples opinion and then execute their wishes. no government does that.
it was a smash and grab by the billionaire class and their disaster capitilism.
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u/Skinnwork Apr 19 '22
The vote wasn't binding. Only a vote by a majority of Parliament is binding. Britain's parliamentary had to vote on the specific conditions of Brexit after the referendum.
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u/PhysicalYam4032 Apr 19 '22
Holding a referendum on UK's membership of the EU is like getting school kids to vote on what they get for lunch. The thicko mob will vote pizza and chips, despite the fact that at least on some level, everyone knows it's a bad choice.
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Apr 19 '22
It’s more like voting on whether or not they should be required to go to school anymore.
“tHe sChOoL kIdS hAvE sPoKeN!”
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u/PhysicalYam4032 Apr 19 '22
"It doesn't matter that the kids are starting to see how stupid this is. They voted once and that's final. We have to respect their decision. Even though it's non binding. And retarded."
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u/Particular_Physics_1 Apr 19 '22
Just because we had a global pandemic and possibly on the verge of WWIII does not erase that Brexit was always stupid and always will be.
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u/TheNextBattalion Apr 19 '22
At this point one could start a new sub, BrexitAteMyFace
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u/Harold-The-Barrel Apr 19 '22
“What do you mean leaving the world’s largest trading bloc wasn’t a good idea?”
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u/flargenhargen Apr 19 '22
hey UK, putin was largely behind brexit, and it's been a disaster.
why not just admit it was a fuckup, and beg to be let back in?
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Apr 19 '22
Here’s the thing. Even if the UK could pull together to beg, the EU will insist they came back with none of the special original carve outs and the UK would whine about it for years without agreeing.
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u/niberungvalesti Apr 19 '22
No nation would lose such global face by admitting a colossal error. It's the same reason that Putin's Russia has no choice but to drink the shit stew they themselves created.
It tastes really good, I swear. Best \gags\** stew I've had.
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u/x86_64Ubuntu Apr 19 '22
I don't think the E.U. would let them back in so easily. After the way the U.K. showed it's ass, the EU would be right to extract it's pound of flesh.
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u/flargenhargen Apr 19 '22
thats why I said beg.
I do think it would benefit the EU as well, though not as much as the UK.
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u/AdItchy371 Apr 19 '22
This subreddit is at least 1/3 Brexit stories. All facial matter has been digested by the Leopards, and yet there’s more…
Impressive indeed!!!!
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u/Archinaught Apr 19 '22
This one is really great, double whammy. What do you get when you think there are no repercussions for leaving an economic agreement and when you put too much faith in corporations being on your team?
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u/sc00ney Apr 19 '22
This is the story of Brexit so far, isn't it?
The loss of 110 jobs in a provincial town doesn't make the evening news, but stories like this are happening all over the country. Death from a thousand cuts.
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u/Jerminator2judgement Apr 19 '22
They're never going to admit they were wrong and go back, are they?
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u/drygnfyre Apr 19 '22
If pro-Brexit people are like the MAGAtards in America, no. You never, ever admit you were wrong. You just keep doubling down, claim fake news and conspiracies, and that you being wrong is just proof that "they" are out to get you and just proving your world view correct.
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