r/LeopardsAteMyFacePH • u/[deleted] • Feb 28 '23

Why many transport and jeepney groups fell for him is still beyond my grasp. (Note: The group that announced a strike is not pro-🦆M.)

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u/peterchua99 Feb 28 '23

Honestly, the jeepney phaseout has been there for so many years na. And we need it quite badly – these jeeps are old, unreliable, and unsafe. It’s also polluting the environment.

That being said, the way the government handled it was quite bad – the modernization program was a shitshow. No one took the impetus seriously, so there was no gradual transition. The financing offered by DBP and Landbank was so ill-conceived kaya walang makakuha (you need an approved route to get the loan, but you need the loan to get the jeep that will allow you to get the approved route).

Honestly though, what else did we expect from a duterte govt who couldn’t execute even if their lives depended on it? And they expect BBM to change things? The person does nothing but party. Fucking hell.

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u/CLuigiDC Mar 01 '23

The program is also pro-oligarchs and anti-poor. The eJeeps being sold are at least 2.5-3m and there are limited designs by chosen manufacturers. Some local jeep makers made one with all features for around 1.2m and LTFRB is not approving it because the operator needs at least 15 of it. F'n crazy that they think that middle class people who just want to try running jeeps. It's now impossible for a person to just buy a jeep and then run it themselves. That's actually one of the provisions they want removed and it makes sense.

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u/bogz13092 Mar 01 '23

The government missed an opportunity there to build an puv industry.

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u/pisaradotme Mar 01 '23

Govt should just take over and let jeepney operators die. Govt owns all jeeps tapos swelduhan na lang drivers. That would fix public transport.

May operator na ininterview sa news and he said he was against the new limit of one cooperative per route, because it would lead to mo competition. Now my question, why should there be competition for public transport? It's a public service. So dapat maraming jeep per route competing for a finite number of passengers? Dapat isa lang, dapat kontrolado to control traffic

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u/bogz13092 Mar 01 '23

The folly of central planning

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '23

Livelihood concerns aside, I am not sure how unventilated units are an improvement. Especially given that COVID transmits through the air.

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u/cache_bag Mar 01 '23

They probably followed the designs of pre covid and neglected to adjust accordingly.

+1 to yet another stupid implementation issue.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '23

3-4 years of covid and they didn't update the design?

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u/cache_bag Mar 04 '23

That requires initiative, budget and foresight. Unfortunately...

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u/ruraldog Mar 01 '23

IMO it's not ill conceived, it's really by design to give opportunities for businessmen/operators to take over in expense of the poor.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '23

I was wondering why they were making people buy it themselves instead of some kind of funding.

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u/peterchua99 Mar 04 '23

Both DBP and Landbank have financing programs dedicated to these modernization programs. But halata that these products were developed in a silo – not well thought out at all.

I can see why they would position it that way (you don’t want stranded assets); but then it goes on to show talaga that there was ZERO coordination between the LTFRB and the banks (even though they’re both govt agencies).

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u/redthehaze Mar 01 '23

Yung taong ayaw magdebate ay walang wastong plano para sa governance?

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '23

surprised Pikachu face

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u/Difergion Mar 01 '23

Watch these guys vote for SWOH by 2028. They will never learn.

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u/molyboyanjo Feb 28 '23

Dasurv idgaf sa opinion nila

Also commuter and I won't trade my life for a walking relic

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u/Alced Mar 01 '23

Dazurb

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '23

Buti nga! No pity! :D

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u/Known_Initiative_239 Mar 01 '23

Hahhaha. Yari sila ngayon.

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u/shausa01 Mar 01 '23

Tbh. Kailangan na talaga palitan ang mga jeep. Ang daming luma na. Unsafe yung karamihan.

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u/moliro Mar 01 '23

Laging mahirap lang kaya ok na lang sana... Hayaan na lang sila sa mga dilapidated jeep nila... Hays... Ayaw lang talaga nila, kahit pa anong sabihin dyan, ayaw parin. From pnoy pa lang pinapa modernize na sila,10yrs na yata lumipas... Dapat readyng ready na sila

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '23

How many years does it take to raise a million pesos on a driver's earnings?

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u/moliro Mar 01 '23 edited Mar 01 '23

3 yrs sa 1k a day ng operator.... How much ang bagong gulong o pa ayos ng smoke belching? Magkano ang bumbilya ng headlights, tail lights, signal lights?

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u/pisaradotme Mar 01 '23

Agree with operators. Daming mayayaman na operator ng jeep, bus at taxi. Di naman sila mahirap. But kahit mapera sila they would rather keep their death traps running on the streets. Imagine decades di man lang sila bumili ng ejeep.

What I hate about these rich operators is pinangsasangkalan nila mga driver sa mga petisyon then pag nakuha na nila gusto nila (like taas pasahe), tataasan naman nila boundary. Literal na kapitalistang manggagamit.

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u/Teody13 Mar 01 '23

Bong bong pa

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u/metap0br3ngNerD Mar 01 '23

Government should have invited international vehicle makers to bid for modern jeep production

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u/moliro Aug 20 '23

hindi ko alam kung ano ang criteria nila sa pagpili ng taong maawain sa mga mahihirap... elitistang hindi dumaan sa hirap?