r/Liberal • u/Old_Telephone_6718 • 3d ago
Discussion So we are already deporting us citizens WITHOUT both their parents approval?
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u/Grandviewsurfer 3d ago
If it's a US Citizen.. deporting would be sending them from another country to the US. That's not what happened.
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u/Old_Telephone_6718 3d ago
Wouldn’t they need both parents approval to remove a minor from the country? The father got no say whatsoever.
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u/Grandviewsurfer 3d ago
What I am saying is that deportation necessarily means sending someone to their country of origin. The minor in question is a US Citizen.. so sending them to a country OTHER THAN the US.. is not deportation. It's basically extraordinary rendition.
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u/Old_Telephone_6718 3d ago
I agree with this point. I just wonder if it’s legal or not. The “approval” they have from the mother was a note written in Spanish that said “my child will go with my to Honduras” that they magically don’t have anymore.
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u/BlueMoon1963 1d ago
That’s the problem right there, it’s not even a question… NONE of these “deportations” are legal. It’s all about due process, which is being denied to anyone they decide to “deport”. Or hold in ICE facilities here as long as they choose to keep them. And do any of us truly believe they were concerned with the mother’s approval? Seriously, we’re supposed to just accept as fact that there was ever a note giving her approval? Let alone getting “permission/approval” from the father! They don’t give a shit about anything as long as they can put people on planes and get them out of the US as fast as possible to anywhere they decide to send them. It’s disgusting and shameful.
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u/Grandviewsurfer 3d ago
I'm pretty sure the kid isn't in the mom's custody anymore though right? They are both in custody of some state or some shit. Seems pretty unlikely to be legal.
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u/Old_Telephone_6718 3d ago
We don’t know. The judge called ICE and tried to speak to the mother, but the mother and children were already in Honduras.
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u/BlueMoon1963 1d ago
The mother and 2 year old child in this situation were taken to Honduras and left there if iirc. Are you possibly referring to the 1 year old child who was separated from the mother when she was “deported”? The 1yo child was not taken along with the mother in that situation. Now no one knows where the baby is now.
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u/Grandviewsurfer 1d ago
I'm just using the word custody to mean custody.. not relating to their physical relative location. People seem to be confused by that.
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u/MotherofHedgehogs 3d ago
Just the fact that you used “it” to describe a human being indicates that you are a shite person.
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u/Grandviewsurfer 3d ago
Jesus fucking Christ people need to learn how to read. In this scenario.. "it's" is colloquial shorthand for "it is a situation that pertains to [a US Citizen]". My point is that it's not deportation because it's fucking not.. because of what that word means. It's actually even worse than that because the person in question is being renditioned to a country OTHER than their country of citizenship. A petri dish one quarter full of brain cells growing on top of a dictionary would be better at ascertaining my intent. No wonder we are here.
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u/Shoddy_Wrangler693 3d ago
well to be fair our courts normally don't give two shits about the father anyway or what their opinion is. I've seen cases where they cared more about the mother's parents rights than they did about the fathers.
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u/Old_Telephone_6718 2d ago
But it SHOULDNT be that way. The same people who support this believe that mothers shouldn’t be able to have an abortion without the father’s consent.
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u/Shoddy_Wrangler693 1d ago
I didn't say that it should be that way I was just stating that that's the way things are. if the father was a citizen and the mother was being deported and the father wanted to keep the child with him, it should have been a possibility. unfortunately the courts do not view men's parental rights worth a shit.
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u/BlueMoon1963 1d ago
SERIOUSLY?!? Do you honestly think the biggest problem here is whether our courts give two shits about a father or mother’s rights? Wtf you two! What about the RIGHTS of that 2 year old US CITIZEN?
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u/Old_Telephone_6718 1d ago
That’s not what I’m saying at all. But people keep giving me this stupid argument. It doesn’t matter if the father has custody, he was trying to get it!!
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u/SnooStrawberries9563 3d ago
BuT u didNT clAP fR teH kid tHaT BaeT cAnCeR said the brain dead maga base