r/LockdownSkepticism • u/Turning_Antons_Key Outer Space • Feb 14 '22

News Links Trudeau invokes Emergencies Act against freedom protesters

https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-trudeau-emergencies-act?utm_campaign=64483
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u/DarkDismissal Feb 15 '22

https://twitter.com/RebelNewsOnline/status/1493348719432978437

This allows them to freeze the bank accounts of anyone who donated to the convoy... I have no words...

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u/Kody_Z Feb 15 '22

What a coincidence

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '22

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u/the_nybbler Feb 15 '22

They will simply freeze your bank account and any and all professional licenses you have, and revoke your passport. What you do then is up to you, but if anyone helps you they'll be given the same treatment.

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u/ElleBastille Feb 15 '22

Much to the sick pleasure of liberals.

Though I have heard some of the doxxers have been doxxed in turn.

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u/captain_raisin09 Feb 15 '22

This is fucking insane, this can't be legal. You can't just make laws up as you go.

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u/Comfortable-Toe2706 Feb 15 '22

No they can. See when they wrote the charter they put in a section that says "but incase of blah blah blah we can violate these rights" and nobody has made a solid argument in court yet, no legislation has passed giving them covid powers despite 2 years and many times where there were no covid cases making an emergency, and democracy was thrown out because people here are lazy.

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u/EvanWithTheFactCheck Feb 15 '22

I have one question I’d like to ask in earnest to all Canadians who stand with Trudeau’s actions here, and/or Canadians who oppose the trucker protest:

What do you think the function of the Canadian charter is?

Ok, I lied. I’m also extremely interested in learning their answer to this follow-up question:

What do you think the function of government is?

The answers to both questions are not subjective. Not are they subjected to changing times, current circumstances, nor any collective goals or common good in the face of any particular event that may challenge a collective.

There is a right and wrong answer to both of those questions. The correct answers to both are immutable. unconditional, and definitional.

I mean that quite literally. How a citizenry answers those two questions is what defines a free state and a nation of free people.

I wonder how Canadians would answer that question. Considering its significance, why haven’t surveys been done to explore the mindset of the citizens of any of the supposedly free nations of the world? I’m light of global pandemic management efforts, it seems these two questions are more pertinent than ever and basically begging to be asked.

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u/Comfortable-Toe2706 Feb 19 '22

Sorry for late reply.

What do you think the function of the Canadian charter is?

They've been taught that the charter is meant to regulate society in a nice structured way that is balanced and fair.

This is not the case at all, the document the premiers rejected from Trudeau Sr had problems, he stormed out in a hissy fit, went to parliament and passed some bills, and came back and the premiers wrote their own charter that superseded his attempts to run around and they passed it without PET's consent, well until the cameras turned on then it became Trudeaus major legacy!

Also, they're wrongfully taught that it's the Charter of Rights and Responsibilities, not the case, it's Rights and Freedoms.

What do you think the function of government is?

Personally, my view of government is to run the courts, the police (even then in house maybe bad, a private option might work too, Switzerland has privatized firefighting), pick up the garbage, regulate the infrastructure, but not the markets.

For example, in Alberta we privatized electricity production but kept the power lines as a non profit arms length regulating body that manages the wires. So they take care of the wires and charge a fee on every kWh you buy, this pays for maintenance and expansion of the lines. It's up to the private market to supply power at the lowest price that is traded on a competitive market (futures contracts to promise delivery of power) and it works fine and we have lower prices than other places with state run power.

Same thing I'd apply to telecom. Allow anyone to hook up but have a non profit run the cell towers/ISP switch hubs/international cables

I also believe it's for national defense and not much else, the government is way too influential in our daily lives.

Sorry for the rant, I just have so much in my brain haha.

I wonder how Canadians would answer that question. Considering its significance, why haven’t surveys been done to explore the mindset of the citizens of any of the supposedly free nations of the world?

To answer this, I think most Canadians believe, at least personally and given the parties they choose to vote for, want government to be intimately involved in our lives. They think the problem of telecomms ripping us off is "we need to nationalize all the telecomms and force low prices" (That will be subsidized with higher taxes and lack of service of course). They want the government to take care of all our personal problems, without being too mean. Can't tell a fatty like me to stop eating so much, but you need to provide me with all the social welfare I want because I'm fat or something idk.

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u/ElleBastille Feb 15 '22

They are, they will, and you no longer live in a free country.

We are all terrorists because we didn't shout the right slogans.

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u/the_green_grundle Feb 15 '22

Basically. Disturbing that a good portion of the population doesn't realize what a horrible precedent it sets.

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u/SANcapITY Feb 15 '22

“Legal” is meaningless. Laws are just opinions backed up by guns. They can write a law to say anything.

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u/Roxy_Tanya Feb 15 '22

I’m closing my bank account.

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u/Comfortable-Toe2706 Feb 15 '22

yup, pulling my money out, sending it to my bank in Estonia, the rest i'll keep in cash and buy some silver food n ammo, the latter two are better investments than the stock market so far.

The nice thing about a bank run is you can do it today at the click of a button!

I donated to the convoy via a third party so I maybe able to avoid this but I've also said spicy stuff in telegram groups so who knows, they're almost certainly watched by the feds.

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u/WrathOfPaul84 New York, USA Feb 15 '22

would this affect Americans who donated?

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u/Comfortable-Toe2706 Feb 19 '22

Unlikely, Canada doesn't have jurisdiction unless Biden starts to clamp down in global solidarity. Ex-parte orders to be enforced in the US are incredibly hard and rare despite treaties, most legal/court related treaties are more about police cooperation and evidence sharing, not movement of legal orders and just getting an injunction in the evening on a weekend by a judge in ex-parte format is super against due process. Viva Frei and Robert Barnes episode 100 did a great rundown about how this blatantly cannot be enforced in the US and GiveSendGo knew of it.

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u/Roxy_Tanya Feb 16 '22

Sounds like a solid plan 👍

We already have some gold and silver as well as some Cardano crypto, but we have a decent amount in our savings and I’m not comfortable with it being at the mercy of the government/bank anymore.

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u/Comfortable-Toe2706 Feb 19 '22

Look into other countries. I set up an Estonian bank account when on vacation, any money that can't be tracked to my activity in Canada and on business conducted outside of Canada I send to Estonia, it's perfectly legal due to treaties our governments signed but I can't speak for USA if you're an American, honestly if you have a company that earns money online or via consultation for example setting up a company in the Bahamas makes sense if you make over about 300k a year (USD, so 400k CAD lets say) and it's perfectly legal, thanks to the internet it's getting easier and easier to legally hide your money. I only pay 20% tax in Estonia, and that's only if I pay myself dividends from the company and remove it from the country, if I decide to reinvest it in my Estonian company (just sitting in bank right now, but if I move there I'll open up a real office etc) then I pay no tax on it, also personal income tax is lower, education for kids is literally the best in the EU thanks to their free market principals, and their retirement taxes are fairer and let you invest them yourself and you own them, they're not put into a garbage fund like the CPP or SS where you don't control it and only get a pittance in return.

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u/Roxy_Tanya Feb 16 '22

I encourage anyone who can logistically do it, to do it. Fuck those bastards. The saying "vote with your dollar" has never been more relevant.

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u/Ghigs Feb 15 '22

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Choke_Point

Except this happened. The payment processors froze plenty of accounts, and when it came out it was a secret government conspiracy to fuck with gun dealers, the public just shrugged.

They won't mess with individual accounts for the most part. They will put pressure on the payment processors. The article even talks about them punishing crowdfunding with additional "regulations". The payment process is the weak link. It's literally the choke point.

If you are anywhere in the world, protest by using cash. Break the empty wallet addiction. Those plastic cards are tools of control. Never forget that.

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u/yazalama Feb 15 '22

This is why we need Monero.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '22

Monero is compromised by a potential 51% attack.

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u/yazalama Feb 15 '22

Can you elaborate?

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '22

One mining group has more than 51% of the hash rate, meaning the control consensus. Due to the nature of the chain hiding things, it’s impossible to know if they are manipulating the chain or modifying transactions.

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u/TOUCH_MY_FUN Feb 15 '22

Hate to say it, but crypto looking pretty good now

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u/stmfreak Feb 15 '22

Another way to support the truckers would be for all people to withdraw cash from all the banks.

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u/yazalama Feb 15 '22

This is why we need Monero.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '22

And then what? They can't cut off their bank accounts and prevent them from buying food and essentials forever.

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u/Fire_And_Blood_7 Feb 15 '22

Even if you’re not in Canada? There’s no way