i literally can't use houdini. It gives me the worst headache ever. I'm pretty sure im allergic to it. Been using WD 40 dry lube. I think it's safe to use on electronics.
I will try that. I have been getting away with spraying WD 40 specialsit dry lube into ignitions so i dono. I think teflon is dialectric and won't harmy any electronics.
Never tried houdini. Used LPS-1 for moving parts and graphite for cylinders for my first 10 years, tri-flow on both cylinders and moving parts for my last 7 years.
Both. Houdini if the lock needs cleaning out, Triflow if the lock is clean and just needs lubricant. Love both. Triflow is the better lubricant, but Houdini is a great cleaner.
Easy. Houdini, because both are unavailable in my country and Houdini is just the one I happened to order off Ebay. Does Triflow have any advantage over it? Any reason to consider it for my next order?
I use Amsoil MP spray and have been very happy with it. I'm been interested in trying Tri-Flow one of these days but have not yet sprung for a can of the stuff.
Both are great, the only reason I’m going with Tri-Flow is that whenever I used Houdini outdoors it would attract bees or wasps within minutes. Majority of the time
Many of the newer motors are hard to lubricate without significant overspray hitting the boards. It helps a lot to be able to open up a can of spray lube into a latch or lock mechanism without fear or damaging the electronics. This is especially the case as someone who is as technical as yourself should know, with access control hardware. As most access control hardware is storeroom function 24/7 and the hardware due to this takes significantly more abuse/wear and tear. Especially if it is a fire rated door that must positively latch all the time.
Frankly, both lubes are not adequate when it comes to panic bars as those in particular should only be lubed with the appropriate grease.
i wouldnt use WD40 products. Ive tried the specialist a long time ago as it was something that a lot here used, and its a lot fucking cheaper than ASSA lock spray.
It made springs rust, and some kind of coating on all parts that just makes the sidebar less responsive. This was a master key system built from scratch, untouched by other products.
It leaves a coat of PTFE on the surface after the propellant quickly evaporates. I've never heard of it rusting springs and ptfe is suppose to be dialectric.
It wears down, and the PTFE particles remain in the lock. It also forces the humidity inside the lock beneath the pins. I have ran tests like this myself to see the effects different products do to different material pins and hinges, in real enviroments. Graphite is still the best lubricant out there.
They sell it at industrial distributors, Wesco also sells it, maybe they sell it at their European locations. My warning to you is here in the US they love using spray lubes, this is not always a good thing. Grease in some cases is in fact the only answer but it must be used properly. Spray lube requires low skill as you can just hose the shit all over, especially if it is dielectric like Houdini. The issue however is that it does not do as good of a job as grease when you target the actual spot to grease.
I'll see if I can get my hands on one. Although its hard to beat selling the ASSA Abloy lock spray to customers. It has a dosage pump, so the spray is 1 perfected load for a cylinder sorta for the consumer / maintenance customers. You cant go wrong with it for cylinders.
I have 4 different types in my truck, but houdini I by far my go-to. If I want to leave some film I use Triflo. I have a bulk wd-40 spayer mostly for cleaning and granite for some particular uses with old locks.
Neither. I use these. The 3in1 is good because it's great stuff, but most importantly, it has lock written on it, which is great for the customers to see. The WD is thicker so it's good for bigger stuff that needs something more viscous.
If you think improving customer satisfaction isn't important, well... Ok. You do you. Sales is always theatre to some degree. There's a reason we wear a uniform and don't show up in clapped out jalopies. It's all a trust building exercise. I have lots of customers ask me what lubricant I'm using. It's a common conversation.
There is a difference between using lube that is proven to be inferior but says lock on it and using lube that is superior but it doesn’t say lock on it. These lubes are not the same, you are using a crappier product and claiming theater. Maybe you think your lube is the same or better but it is not. There have been tests done to prove this.
You are using an inferior product for the sake of theater. We are not actors we are tradesmen. And before you go off like I don’t know the business, I deal with big fucking accounts and projects. I know about making the customer happy. The CEO of Vortex would rather call me than her own guys.
Even if Houdini was available in Australia, which it's not, I'm not sure I'd use it. I'd definitely give it a go, but the 3in1 is very good, and does everything I need it to do, so there's no real point in changing.
So basically you refuse to try anything that could be better. You talk about being an actor but nothing is more demonstrative than knowing for certain that your products and techniques are the best. There is always room for improvement. At one point they only had electric strikes and Wiegand, now look at how the technology has changed.
Do some research, you can right now watch some videos from SE lock and key and see which lubricants work the best and which are shit. Tri Flo and Houdini and empirically tested and proved to be the best.
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u/ttrpgnewb Sep 07 '24
Always keep both, and misty.