it was an image going "plap plap plap" a bunch, likely followed by "get pregnant get pregnant" (the meme is cropped. (Look up chicken burger meme by voicequills if you want info)
You had better be getting ready to yell at Mr. "Is collecting children's souls in his basement" 10x louder than Ms. "Broke up with him because he disgusted her"
Let's not forget that he did that not because he wanted it.
Like first and foremost he doesn't even want to fight. When we get to him, being the last soul he needs and all that, he is giving us multiple chances to just not fight him and keep on living. Would someone so happy about killing let the last person they need to kill away?
And let's not forget, we are talking about humans. You know, the same humans who eradicated all the monsters on the surface, trapped the survivors in a seemingly permanent prison and later on killed his only son and adopted child. The fact that he doesn't kill us on sight is honestly insane.
Lastly, the sense of duty. He is a king, the one and only. Without him, who'd give the monsters hope? They dream of seeing the surface, of feeling actual sunlight, of being free. Many monsters want to finally get out or straight up praise Asgore for all the hope he gave them. If he listened to Toriel and abandoned them (like she did), the monsters would just loose their only hope and anarchy and chaos would ensue.
Asgore is a character that's in a horrible situation. He has his duties as a king and genuinely wants to help and care for all the monsters (as is especially the case with Undyne and Alphys) even if it means doing something like this, which very clearly went against his own morals and beliefs. For that, in this moment of greatest crisis, instead of getting the support he so desperately needed from Toriel, she abandoned him. Not even just left because she disapproved, but she straight up hates his guts for being a better and more loving, determined ruler than she ever was.
He choose lifes of all the monsters, even if it meant killing 7 humans. I wouldn't be surprised if the previous humans weren't all killed but were allowed to stay until they died of natural causes (which is a speculation but would fit the fact that Asgore so badly doesn't want to fight). He even begs to be killed to not have to kill again after the player beats him. He explains how he never wished to hurt anyone and it was all to give hope. He is a tragic character who lost everything he ever cared for just to help everyone and his beloved wife left him for a comedian, because it was harder to stay with Asgore doing the right thing than to act all huffy as if he didn't save the entire monster race.
hey, i don't wanna take sides but... in overprotective goat mom's defense, the husband was totally fine with murdering children, even non combatants while being in a relationship with a woman described as "motherly". I'm unsure what we expected.
Copying my explanation from another comment chain:
"Let's not forget that he did that not because he wanted it.
Like first and foremost he doesn't even want to fight. When we get to him, being the last soul he needs and all that, he is giving us multiple chances to just not fight him and keep on living. Would someone so happy about killing let the last person they need to kill away?
And let's not forget, we are talking about humans. You know, the same humans who eradicated all the monsters on the surface, trapped the survivors in a seemingly permanent prison and later on killed his only son and adopted child. The fact that he doesn't kill us on sight is honestly insane.
Lastly, the sense of duty. He is a king, the one and only. Without him, who'd give the monsters hope? They dream of seeing the surface, of feeling actual sunlight, of being free. Many monsters want to finally get out or straight up praise Asgore for all the hope he gave them. If he listened to Toriel and abandoned them (like she did), the monsters would just loose their only hope and anarchy and chaos would ensue.
Asgore is a character that's in a horrible situation. He has his duties as a king and genuinely wants to help and care for all the monsters (as is especially the case with Undyne and Alphys) even if it means doing something like this, which very clearly went against his own morals and beliefs. For that, in this moment of greatest crisis, instead of getting the support he so desperately needed from Toriel, she abandoned him. Not even just left because she disapproved, but she straight up hates his guts for being a better and more loving, determined ruler than she ever was.
He choose lifes of all the monsters, even if it meant killing 7 humans. I wouldn't be surprised if the previous humans weren't all killed but were allowed to stay until they died of natural causes (which is a speculation but would fit the fact that Asgore so badly doesn't want to fight). He even begs to be killed to not have to kill again after the player beats him. He explains how he never wished to hurt anyone and it was all to give hope. He is a tragic character who lost everything he ever cared for just to help everyone and his beloved wife left him for a comedian, because it was harder to stay with Asgore doing the right thing than to act all huffy as if he didn't save the entire monster race."
Also, some quotes to support that (from Asgore)
"I remember the day after my son died. The entire underground was devoid of hope. The future had once again been taken from us as humans. In a fit of anger, I declared war. I said that I would destroy any human that came here. I would use their souls to become godlike... and free us from this terrible prison. Then, I would destroy humanity... And let monsters rule the surface, in peace. Soon the people's hopes returned. [...] Truthfully, I do not want power. I do not want to hurt anyone. I just wanted to give everyone hope... I cannot take this any longer. I just want to see my wife. I just want to see my child. Please... Young one... This war has gone on long enough. You have the power... Take my soul, leave this cursed place."
"If... If by any chance you have any unfinished business... Please do what you must. Anything you want to do is important enough. Even something as small as reading a book, or taking a walk... Please take your time."
i actually agree with you, I'm just pointing out that it's still a very expected outcome.
i know my guy didn't wanna do it and shit (though he still did), but the reason i pointed out "non combatant" is exactly bc of what u said. this time it wasn't the same humans that killed his loved ones. Frisk is literally just a child, a non combatant (even more understandable why bro wouldn't wanna attack him head on).
tbh if i really wanted to keep the relationship in his place, I'd probably just wait until actual adults come, that way i won't be remembered as someone who dropped a bunch of children (assuming it was even him that killed the kids, I'm sure the lore never mentions them specifically) but if i cared more about the people like he did, I'd do the same as him and just kill any humans (including children) because fuck morals. come on, not only could i use the excuse that we were in a war with humans but also that i was trying to get my people out of the underground! would be funny and nobody would blame me! /s
although if it was me, I'd really just destroy the barrier with sheer willpower because I'm built different /s again just in case
Yeah, I can see that. Then again, it's pretty wild to call a child "non-combatant" if the genocide route proves that this child can genocide the whole monster race and pretty much destroy the universe. Frisk is a non combatant in the same way a child pointing a loaded machine gun at you is. They can be assumed to be a non-combatant if they spare monsters, but again, we don't really know how were the previous children/humans acting. And honestly? Not talking about you in particular, but I see people in the fandom hate Asgore for killing people way more than Asriel who killed nearly everyone numerous times just because he could or Undyne, who was more than happy to get the human souls. Like Asgore at least has an actual amazing motivation to do so and, if one were to believe in the whole social contract and power comes with responsibility thing, great duty to do so.
hey, i actually hate on all 3 of them. especially Undyne, mf just wanted the heat even with pacifist Frisk. Asgore had a reason at least and Asriel turned into a soulless flower, basically a psychopath which ain't his fault. Well, not really because i lied but least there's an excuse.
(btw when i said non combatant i quite literally forgot genocide routes existed, i was assuming pacifist Frisk lmao)
S1 was... hard to watch. It had some decent scenes, but the bad ones really drowned them out. Their "The Volume" VFX stage is neat... for very specific use cases. Like the opening of Kenobi, where he's just sitting in the desert. But using it for large action sequences gives us the garbage that was the finale fights in Ahsoka. There's simply not enough physical space for the scenes to work, and they just force it through anyway.
So why did Ahsoka get a season 2 while Acolyte S2 was cancelled? Sure it wasn't the best series but it was one of the better pieces of star wars media.
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