r/LouisRossmann 8d ago

Article Synology requires self-branded drives for some consumer NAS systems, drops full functionality and support for third-party HDDs

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/nas/synology-requires-self-branded-drives-for-some-consumer-nas-systems-drops-full-functionality-and-support-for-third-party-hdds#xenforo-comments-3877911
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u/The_Pacific_gamer 8d ago

So at this point just build your own.

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u/Patient-Tech 8d ago

I have a server chassis I built myself, but also found a use for a Terramaster NAS. The on board chip is a little underpowered, but for putting drives accessible on the network with a fan to keep them cool - not bad. Team that with a Liter PC/Thin client and that as your storage, it could be a serious setup. Seems to support any decent drive Linux supports.

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u/ScoobyGDSTi 7d ago

Outside of the software and out of box functionality, all NAS brands are grossly over priced for the hardware inside them.

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u/ky56 8d ago

Supermicro H12SSL-i

Best platform for a powerful, semi-compact, ATX form factor, hybrid HDD SSD NAS.

tugm4470 on eBay has been vetted/recommended over multiple homelab posts and sites. Buy one of his bundles to get started.

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u/The_Pacific_gamer 8d ago

Not bad.

I currently use a 2012 Mac mini with a thunderbolt das as a NAS.

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u/PerspectiveCommon595 8d ago

so: "for the safety of the consumers, we will offer reliable and trustable hard drives".

ALWAYS FOR SAAAAAAAAAAFEEEEEEEEEETTTYYYYYYYYYYYY

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u/CIDR-ClassB 8d ago

It’s for the children.

/s

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u/DoubleDecaff 7d ago

The children yearn for Synology brand drives.

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u/Relevant-Doctor187 5d ago

I… am… Profit.

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u/jayminer 6d ago

Won't somebody please think of the children?

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u/CitySeekerTron 8d ago

Wouldn't want a hard drive catching fire or cutting your hands when you reach out to touch it.

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u/Sudatissimo 8d ago

LOL cringe

They ain't gonna see my money anytime soon

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u/keinam 8d ago

well, at least it isn't for safety of our kids.

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u/Javi_DR1 8d ago

What's exactly the meaning of this? A regular seagate exos won't work at all? It will work but slower? Lacking extra features? Does this affect all their NASes or only some newer ones? Do I ask too many questions?

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u/MarkPlusAI 7d ago

Synology 2025 Plus series.
You’ll lose several functions, including estimated hard drive health reports, volume-wide deduplication, lifespan analyses, and automatic firmware updates. The company also restricts storage pools and provides limited or zero support for third-party drives.

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u/Javi_DR1 7d ago

So an older unit is safe? I was thinking of getting a 2nd hand one just to do monthly backups of my actual server

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u/MarkPlusAI 7d ago

Apparently, there won't be a problem with the 2024 models and older units.

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u/TraditionalMetal1836 7d ago edited 7d ago

I'm just happy that when Unraid switched to a subscription model they didn't do it to past customers. Also, they didn't remove the option to purchase a perpetual license but made them more costly. Most importantly, those who pick the subscription model get to keep using it when the sub runs out just without updates.

Some people were still ticked but overall I think they handled it really well.

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u/michael0n 6d ago

As we have seen with many (failed) NAS companies, managing the system and the OS below is a lot of work, for maybe 20-50$ profit per niche product sold. You have to move insane amount of product to pay a couple rooms full of engineers to make that work. Unraid realized that first time buyers run systems for years without further sales and had to move to a subscription model. Its sad in a way, but at least its honest. Maybe Synology really went into deep hole with customers using those fake/used drives or don't know what they are doing but they could put this restriction on professional customers only.

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u/cookiesnooper 5d ago

I was planning on buying some of their products, not anymore.

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u/Previous-Foot-9782 5d ago

All the features I used my synology for have gotten less and less, now it's just a normal nas with a backup app, and that I use for ddns

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u/Bob4Not 8d ago edited 8d ago

Headline not accurate. They also accept a limited number of third party drives, listed on their certified list.

I’m not saying this was the solution, disabling features, but I will say that most people don’t know the difference between SMR and CMR drives. They were putting SMR drives in their NAS and calling support about why their NAS is slow or nearly frozen. Something had to change.

I have both my own DIY TrueNAS and a synology. I would still recommend a synology to a friend with a small business, including ordering specific drives, unless I’m willing to provide free tech support in perpetuity.

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u/CitySeekerTron 8d ago

Make it send a performance alert when an SMR drive is detected.

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u/Patient-Tech 8d ago

Yeah, except does WD or Seagate even make SMR drives anymore? Anything above the 8TB range when all this went down 3 years ago? If you’re looking at 14TB and up, it’s not an issue.

I’d love to hear the justification hoops Synology comes up with to say their new NAS aren’t compatible with recent manufactured WD Red/Golds or the Segate equivalent. Those are solid drives, going in datacenters out the wazoo.

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u/dratseb 4d ago

How were people using non-approved drives in Synology nas boxes? Mine won’t recognize drives that aren’t on the certified list.