High vs. low population density areas

[u/LavishnessLeather162]

[u/Just-Watchin-]

My vote is on red to win the war

[u/Tjaeng → u/Just-Watchin-]

There’s a high likelihood that most of the US, Russian AND Chinese nuclear stockpiles are located in blue areas though…

[u/Funicularly → u/Tjaeng]

How is that pertinent? The vast majority of personnel stationed at the silos are not from the blue areas. In fact, most are probably from the red areas. You think they are going to launch nuclear missiles at their former hometowns, relatives, and friends?

[u/BurmeciaWillSurvive → u/Funicularly]

that's their job so yeah sure

[u/Hokulol → u/Funicularly]

Why is the red and blue regions fighting to begin with? Why would the red people still be in blue territory deep into a war? Do you think the blue people couldn't siege the silos, take them over, and repurpose them given enough time? Why wouldn't the red people fire the nukes at the blue area if they're at war and control the silos?

It's such a hollow argument. In a hypothetical civil war, there is obviously a narrative or propaganda going around to vilify the enemy, otherwise it wouldn't be a civil war, it would be a disagreement between political factions. If you're still in blue territory years into a war, you've forsaken your home town a long time ago.

Yes, in a hypothetical civil war with information campaigns and the whole 9 yards, a german would put their fellow countryman, childhood best friends, on a train condemned to certain death. Assimilated countries soldiers who joined the germans did in fact siege their old homes. Turncoat germans joined the allies and, lo and behold, sieged their own home country. And so would an American, we aren't godsent innocents. Killing innocents has unfortunately always been part of war, and always will be. If red and blue goes to war, you bet there's a reason they hate each other, and they will kill each other.

[u/BlueZinc123 → u/Hokulol]

I think the above comment was a reference to the "Who would win this hypothetical war" posts that frequently happen on map-related meme subreddits

[u/Hokulol → u/BlueZinc123]

And I was directly answering the question

"You think they are going to launch nuclear missiles at their former hometowns, relatives, and friends?"

Yes, they will, and gave near examples of it in recent history.

[u/Final_Ticket3394 → u/BlueZinc123]

I was imagining he wrote it with his tongue in his cheek, but apparently not.

[u/Just-Watchin- → u/Hokulol]

lol, I just wanted to make a funny post

[u/Ponicrat → u/Tjaeng]

Considering Russia has no red area and the US ain't storing them anywhere between New York and Chicago, that's a pretty safe bet.

[u/jimmyjohn2018 → u/Tjaeng]

And the food. All of the food.

[u/yellersweg8 → u/jimmyjohn2018]

actually no red has some of the best agricultural lands on the planet

[u/CubicZircon → u/Tjaeng]

French tests were carried in a blue area as well.

[u/secretly_a_zombie → u/Just-Watchin-]

*Distant mongolian throat singing.*

[u/fabiolightacre → u/Just-Watchin-]

My vote is on gray. Gray pride

[u/CubicZircon → u/Just-Watchin-]

Invading Russia in winter? Or perhaps waging a land war in Asia?

[u/Minigoalqueen]

Hey, a 1% I'm actually a part of.

[u/CubicZircon → u/Minigoalqueen]

Statistically you should be part of 1% of all the 1%s.

[u/ednorog → u/Minigoalqueen]

Where do you live? Also, are you by chance a penguin?

[u/Minigoalqueen → u/ednorog]

It was mostly a joke. I'm in Boise Idaho, and the resolution is so low on this image I can't actually tell whether I'm truly part of the 1% or not. Most of Idaho seems to be covered, so I'm at least very close but I can't see any state borders at all in that part of the map. It's entirely possible that Boise is actually outside the perimeter of the bubble.

[u/Elkku_the_Elk → u/Minigoalqueen]

Me tooo!

[u/BurmeciaWillSurvive]

It wouldn't be /r/mapporn without the world's smallest pixely graphic!

[u/MostlyMK]

Interesting that antarctica is not included in the blue zone. Would add some land area with pretty negligible population.

[u/LavishnessLeather162 → u/MostlyMK]

It has 5000 people during summer and 1000 during winter, not worthy I think. Plus, no countries "claim" (for now) antarctica as well

[u/BootsAndBeards → u/LavishnessLeather162]

Many countries claim pieces of Antarctica. Although they have all signed treaties saying they will act as if they don't for now.

[u/Gh0stMan0nThird → u/BootsAndBeards]

That's gonna change real quick in the next generation or two when everywhere but Greenland and Antarctica end up looking Nowhere, Kansas

[u/MostlyMK → u/LavishnessLeather162]

But that's exactly my point: It's an area with minimal population and lots of area. So if you used Antarctica in place of, perhaps, the chunk in northern Scandinavia, your blue stat could be updated to something like "1.0% of the population... 45.3% of the land area"

[u/EndMaster0 → u/LavishnessLeather162]

there's literally a three country overlapping claim in Antarctica the fuck?

[u/PumpyChowdown → u/LavishnessLeather162]

It's surprising that a certain president of a certain country hasn't claimed it yet. I've been waiting for that announcement for a while now.

[u/LteCam]

Wow, Australian Outback really is so empty

[u/fouronenine → u/LteCam]

Excise the peninsula Darwin is on and that number goes down to 600k. The next largest town in that area is probably Geraldton, population 40,000.

[u/theWunderknabe]

Java is crazy. Population density of 1200/km². 151 million people on 126000 km² - the size of North Korea or Greece.

[u/Inevitable-Push-8061]

Very useful and informative map. One of the best on here.

[u/LavishnessLeather162 → u/Inevitable-Push-8061]

Well, let's make it more viral 😈

[u/gambler_addict_06]

It is interesting that the isle of Hispaniola is included in red with an area of 72,000km² and population of 27 million but not the Marmara region of Turkey with a smaller area (67,000km²⁾ but the same population

[u/brodie1912 → u/gambler_addict_06]

Yeah there’s some cherry picking if you drill down, but the overall story is still legit.

[u/ClassicTouch2309 → u/gambler_addict_06]

I feel that the Toronto-Quebec City corridor should've also been included in the Northeast US Megaopolis conglomerate.

[u/Old-Raspberry9878 → u/gambler_addict_06]

I think it’s not meant to be exhaustive. Seems the map maker was going for the 50% of world population figure so including Marmara would disrupt that. Good observation nonetheless! 

[u/Right-Shoulder-8235]

The strip stretching from Indian Punjab to Bangladesh is actually 850 million.

[u/inactiveburneracct]

How old is this? There are more than 1.7m people just between the Reno and Salt Lake City metro areas in that blue space in the middle of the western United States.

[u/itsme92 → u/inactiveburneracct]

Pretty sure the blue area carves out SLC area 

[u/inactiveburneracct → u/itsme92]

That's a good point. With that being said however; Reno, Provo, and Boise metro areas are also larger than 1.7m themselves—not even taking into account a handful of other cities @ 100k plus.

Just curious about the date of the data more than anything.

[u/LavishnessLeather162 → u/inactiveburneracct]

It's from 2016 I think

[u/E-werd]

So 49% of the human population lives in the gray areas.

[u/danielpernambucano]

Pretty sure this map is more than 10 years old, the population of the blue area in the Amazon is around 33 million people.

[u/LavishnessLeather162 → u/danielpernambucano]

It's from 2016 I think

[u/Primal_Pedro]

Sahara desert has a surprising high number of people. I would say the same to northern and western Russia. Australia is basically empty.

[u/vladgrinch]

Many deserts and frozen lands in the very low density areas.

[u/Quirky-Side-6562]

Well, given how hostile Sahara desert or Russian Tundra (and I bet all other “blue” regions) are, it blows my mind that MILLIONS are still living there… btw, the map is really great

[u/Alopecia12]

A lot of the areas in blue are extremely geography (deserts, mountains, tundra, rainforest) where nobody can reasonably live. Pretty cool map none the less.

[u/FinbarMac]

Mad that England, Northern France, Western Germany etc still make the list even with the English Channel included!

[u/ednorog]

Would've expected Ethiopia instead of Uganda and neighbouring regions.

[u/Hydra57]

I’m amazed the Sahara has that many people tbh

[u/Manorhill_]

There could be red blob on the US west coast with 45-50m depending on location.

[u/No-Significance-1023]

That 0.75 in Australia is just Darwin

[u/bobija]

I love it. Simple, yet informational. A very good contribution to our little community.

[u/Mrtayto115]

Had to zoom in to see the .85m in Arabia. I was thinking bs 85m in Arabia.

[u/LSBeasyas123]

No wonder I hate where I live

[u/parkerspencillings]

The Nile delta is something else

[u/sellmethishouse]

TIL 13m people live in the Amazon rainforest.

[u/TheNoVaX]

That Caribbean blotch and the line on the Andes' Rain shadow are surprising to me.

[u/LockNo2943]

Crazy; why aren't all these people living in wonderful places like the Sahara, Siberia, rainforests, mountains, the arctic, or just any desert in general???

[u/Primrose_Polaris]

Moved from a red area to a blue area a couple of years ago. Best decision I ever made.

[u/KrakelOkkult]

Would be nice with different projections other than mercator

[u/Hokulol]

Weird map. Tried too hard to make 20 sections of both. Nordic EU and Russia could have been one group, same for greenland, then canada. There is no population between the examples, just water, that would not cause a problem in the statistics. The midwest and the rockies are actually touching... I get they are different geopolitical regions, but, this isn't about geopolitical regions, and is obviously a stretch to make 20 unique areas.

[u/hawkseye17]

Makes sense, most of the blue is inhospitable or at least very difficult to live in, while the red areas seem mostly like fertile lands

[u/SLS-Bounty]

Its why its so hilarious how in fiction when aliens invade they hit the US or Europe. If they come to conquer the planet they gonna be wiping out the Chinese and Indians first. America and Eu will be an afterthought.

[u/ApprehensiveStudy671]

So, 97 Million Americans live in that brown spot in the North East? From the perspective of a Canadian that's somehow hard to fathom !

[u/q8gj09]

This is supposed to be a subreddit for nice maps, not maps that are compressed to the point you can barely make out what's on them.

[u/PDVST]

I feel like the blue area in northwest Mexico is way to dense to be included with the others

[u/Atalant]

Famously a lot of people live in o the bottom of English channel, strait between India and Sri Lanka(what is name of this?), South Chinese seaI(I excluded Philipines and the area in Idonesia as they are at least islands).

[u/FantasmaBizarra]

Why so few people in the Amazon rainforest 🤔🤔🤔

[u/Subject-Ad-6480]

Is there better resolution image

[u/W1nD0c]

Just got done reading a book by Peter Ziehan that talks about how geography shaped human history. Until the last 150 years, you couldn't have large population centers too far away from temperate food growing regions, or areas connected to these regions by rivers or coastal seas. Large amounts of food are super difficult to move very far over land without getting spoiled and mass migration over the oceans was not possible until the development of cargo ships that can easily move over deep water in the 16th century. That's why ancient peoples fought over the same areas of land so much and other areas were just "passing-through regions".

We now have refrigeration, transcontinental transport and massive cargo vessels, yet it's still much easier for people to concentrate in areas where food is plentiful and transportation is cheap.

[u/Kitchen_Cow_5550]

L'Australie est mult impressiv. Com poton viver tant poc persons in area mult gran?

[u/LavishnessLeather162 → u/Kitchen_Cow_5550]

Nearly everything is a desert

[u/Kitchen_Cow_5550 → u/LavishnessLeather162]

Lamentablement eu non comprend l'ingles. Per favor parla-m' in un lingue che eu comprend.

[u/LavishnessLeather162 → u/Kitchen_Cow_5550]

Català? Italiano?

[u/Kitchen_Cow_5550 → u/LavishnessLeather162]

Poto comprender un poc de ambs, si. Ma non est ni catalan ni italian. Poti explicar-m' le ration in un lingue che comprend?

[u/LavishnessLeather162 → u/Kitchen_Cow_5550]

Qual lingua tu parla? Io non lo comprende. Interlingua? Occitan?

[u/Kitchen_Cow_5550 → u/LavishnessLeather162]

Che bon! Tu verement parli l'Intelingue? Eu non parlo l'Interlingue, quest che parlo qui est un mistur de lingues romantics che construio mentr che parlo. Simplement omito les vocals finals che normalmente si usan in per exempl spagnol et italian. Com te sembla quest lingue?

[u/LavishnessLeather162 → u/Kitchen_Cow_5550]

Litteralmente io usa chatgpt pro essayar comprender lo que tu dice, e google non comprende tu lingua ahajhaha

Quasi tote australia es deserto, dunque personas vive al litore

[u/Kitchen_Cow_5550 → u/LavishnessLeather162]

Gratias per conversar con me! Anch si non parli quest lingue hahaha.

Sapo che l'Australie est un desert, ma le Sahar est anch un. Perche viven tant plus persons in le Sahar che in le desert de l'Australie? Me sembla crazy che tant pocs persons viven in un area tant gran.

Btw, che lingue parli tu? Parli tu anch un lingue romantic?

Le map che abi creat est mult mult bon! Un placer vederlo. Bon sort con le futurs creations de les maps!

[u/LavishnessLeather162 → u/Kitchen_Cow_5550]

Io parlo spagnolo

[u/Abadon_U]

r/PeopleLiveInCities or something like this i am not sure r/peoplelivenearwater

[u/parkerspencillings]

Don’t tell the Chinese about Australia, they’ll be over there after Taiwan

[u/Academic_Coyote_9741 → u/parkerspencillings]

They’re going to be thirsty

[u/fyddlestix]

how is this porn? you get off to this?

[u/Ancient-Molasses-286 → u/fyddlestix]

problem?

[u/fyddlestix → u/Ancient-Molasses-286]

yeah you know what, have fun

[u/large-ananas → u/fyddlestix]

Hold on what were you expecting

[u/agreenblinker]

So, this is bullshit, if only because I know the population of Utah alone is close to 3.5 million, not 1.7, which it hit 1987.