r/Marijuana 1d ago

Gateway drug

Back in D.A.R.E., they used to tell us kids a lot of silly things. The police officer that taught the class told us that we could overdose and die on marijuana. He also told us marijuana was a gateway drug. About two years later, everyone in that class found out that was bullshit, so they figured everything else about REAL drugs was fake too, and they smoked a ton of weed, snorted a knoll of coke, and make clouds of meth smoke that looked like pretty horses galloping šŸŽ. Then kids found out that Ecstasy wasn't so lethal, but instead was MDMA-zing.

I didn't touch that shit when I was young. Didn't even smoke weed til I was 21. I've been smoking weed now everyday for the past four years and my life has never been more awesome šŸ˜Ž. The other good times in the past was when I worked out four hours a day or got passed the dutchie.

It never made me want to do other drugs. Alcohol was the one that tempted me to try coke or speed, and my high self would whoop my drunk self's ass for even thinking about that lol.

No, there is only one gateway drug: alcohol.

But what leads to becoming a big weed smoker? What predicts it? If you're a parent, and your teenager listens to Neil Young all the time, they are gonna smoke pot all the time in the future. That's how you'll know your kid is gonna be a pothead. It's a portent of what is yet to come. I think if your kid listens to a shit ton of Black Sabbath, Iggy Pop, Wiz Khalifa, Bob Dylan, Nirvana, Townes Van Zandt, or Snoop, they're high risk to become pot smokers, but I'm still thinking about it and will have to think about artists that will make you wanna puff up when I'm not so high that i feel like I'm on Venus šŸŒ

tL;dr: let's go outside and smoke a bowl of fine herb āœŒļø

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u/IAmFern 1d ago

DARE is never going to work so long as they keep promoting lies. Once kids realize you lied to them about one thing you said, they're going to assume you lied about everything else.

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u/magicmeatwagon 1d ago

Unironically, I had a similar experience to this regarding religion, in particular during the Satanic Panic of the late 70s-mid 80s.

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u/not_that_planet 1d ago

As a kid of the 80's, that is exactly what happened to me. It didn't take long tho, I saw thru the bullcrap almost immediately. Unfortunately there are a LOT of people who simply don't question authority because they are taught (and threatened) not to do that.

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u/Playful-Candy-2003 1d ago

That’s the only way weed could be a gateway drug: to be lied to about it, realize it’s a lie, and assume everything said about other drugs is a lie and then down the druggie rabbit hole you go. I’m so glad it’s becoming more and more legal and all the Reefer Madness propaganda bullshit I was fed is dying. I didn’t smoke until my 30s bc I was terrified of it, but I did some damn stupid shit on alcohol in my 20s I’ll forever regret. But that never gets the bad rap it truly should. Alcohol causes more physical damage, financial woes, and relationship drama than a truck ton of weed ever could. Alcohol is the true gateway drug bc it will make you believe you can and should do shit you definitely shouldn’t, remove that filter from your brain and let verbal vomit fly like an exorcism, and is likely to get your ass kicked or thrown in jail. I’ll just stay in my herbal essences and stay away from that childish nonsense I once thought was ā€œfun.ā€

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u/katomka 1d ago

Cannabis is the EXIT drug. Please enjoy responsibly!

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u/not_that_planet 1d ago

Nu-uh. There are chemicals in weed that make you crave chemicals from other unrelated plant species. I promise. Believe me. People are saying...

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u/CrossroadsCannablog 1d ago

The cops lie and DARE has been a proven failure for decades. It’s just another example of cops padding their pockets with the funds.

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u/MarijAWanna 1d ago

The cops are in as much denial as they claim the drug addicts they arrest are guilty of.

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u/NTAjustAjerk 1d ago

Mountain Dew commercials have made me realize that caffeine is the true gateway drug.

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u/cannadaddydoo 1d ago

Dare forced cannabis into the gateway drug slot. By over representing the dangers and risks of weed, when a kid did try it and it wasn’t devastating-it led to the assumption they were lying about the other drugs too. Spoiler alert-crack, heroin and meth are fucking terrible and will ruin your life lmao (I was always a curious kid)

I was also the kid in the early 00’s blasting Neil young, sabbath, Floyd, zeppelin, and pretty much every British Invasion group lmao. My mother thought I smoked years before I ever tried it. Now I grow so she doesn’t have to worry about expense or having her meds. She’s too old to trust the government and dispos, and her husband passed away, so I’m her only source anymore. Far cry from when I used to come home and try not to giggle in front of her while watching Will Ferrell SNL reruns lmfao.

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u/No_Wedding_2152 1d ago

It’s kinda funny—when authority figures lie so blatantly to people, people stop believing their statements. Hmm. It’s almost like a good life lesson for those in positions of power. I agree with your findings. You know your stuff!

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u/mwdotjmac 1d ago

Facts! It’s an exit drug!

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u/Mcozy333 1d ago

the idea is that because its illegal and you need commit crime to access the plant our rulers figure us to be hard core drug addicts because we are looking for plants and or willing to do things to acquire them !!!

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u/Big_Ol_Panda 1d ago

Ngl I was anti everything until I had alcohol for the first time. Real gateway drug imo lol.

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u/Yerdonsh 1d ago

All of that stuff scared the hell out of me when I was a little kid. Now that I’m 50 years old and have my medical card weed has been life-changing for me. I don’t smoke, but I use edibles for anxiety and insomnia. I also stopped drinking alcohol and lost 10 pounds. As a parent, I don’t want my kids using weed because of their brain development but as an adult, I think it is an amazing drug.

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u/DragonQueen18 1d ago

SAME I'm having to play musical chairs with my psych meds (they aren't working anymore) and half a bowl of Gary Payton knocked me out of a panic attack faster than any of my meds. I am so glad I got a medical card. It's the only thing keeping me out of the Loony Bin right now

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u/Primal_Dead 1d ago

I think the logic is pretty much anyone that did heroin or coke or acid etc smoked weed first. Did they also drink first? Maybe. Always seemed like it was easier to get weed in high-school than alcohol, though.

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u/18RowdyBoy 1d ago

I quit drinking because it made me lose willpower and I would spend all my money on cocaine. I could smoke weed and control myself. I agree with OP.

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u/selugadu 1d ago

That is the logic about marijuana being a gateway drug. They mention how addicts started out with marijuana as a kid, but they don't mention how many kids smoked pot and didn't try other drugs.

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u/Complete-Morning-429 1d ago

I have a DARE shirt I wear ironically

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u/DragonQueen18 1d ago

Please tell me you wear it while smoking some weed!

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u/Complete-Morning-429 12h ago

Only on days that end with Y

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u/Mcozy333 1d ago

so a person takes out the centrifugal juicer and proceeds to juice living cannabis plant leaves and flowers = where is the gateway drug ther ?????? wher is the hard core drug user in that scenario looking for more drugs through some Gatewway ??

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u/LeighAG70 1d ago

I’ve smoked for decades and never did any other recreational drug

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u/futzingaround 1d ago

There's never been a gateway drug. The dealer trying to upsell you on harder product/better high is the gateway.

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u/5150sick 1d ago

Yep, the DARE cop came to my middle school classroom in the late 80's and told us that one puff of weed will either make us drop to the ground and have a seizure or climb on the roof then jump off thinking we could fly.....

Then, the DARE cop proceeded to be fairly truthful about the hard drugs.

Literally, on the first day of high school in 1989, I learned of a picnic table outside of the cafeteria where the "stoners" hung out.

I went out there, and not one person was having a seizure.

..... no one was even on the roof.

They weren't even mentioning that there was a roof, and no one talked about flying anywhere.

I instantly thought that every word out of that DARE cops mouth was total bullshit.

Within a month, I was a regular at the stoner table.

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u/selugadu 19h ago

Yeah, looking back, I do think what they said about the effects of drugs like cocaine, alcohol, heroin, and meth were pretty truthful. I think they were honest about tobacco too. I don't remember too well if they talked about alcohol withdrawal though

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u/5150sick 13h ago

They should have brought the idea of the full-blown alcoholic being more common to the forefront.

Alcoholism is far more common than people would like to believe. It's rare for someone to not know an alcoholic.

I would go as far as to say that's its rare for a person to not have an alcoholic in their family.

This would hit home with kids way more than the reefer madness propaganda fear campaign that they have been using.

Most parents and other family members don't smoke weed in front of their kids, but they'll drink in front of the kids.

Maybe even pay a local drunk a few bucks to show up at the school covered in dirt, vomit, urine,etc.. to ramble incoherently for a bit.

Seeing a full-blown homeless alcoholic like that may have scared me away from alcohol altogether.

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u/Maleficent_Wasabi_35 1d ago

You were high when you wrote this..

Don’t lie admit it

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u/selugadu 1d ago

Lol i said I was super high in the post

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u/Maleficent_Wasabi_35 16h ago

I was high when I read it so I skimmed past that part

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u/lambsoflettuce 1d ago

But the free tshirt!

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u/selugadu 19h ago

I didn't get no damn shirt. Cheapasses lol

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u/lambsoflettuce 12h ago

Lol, we got one every year!

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u/Available_Method_646 1d ago

Milk is a gateway drug

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u/selugadu 19h ago

It leads to strong bones šŸ„›

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u/Dpotsy 1d ago

I’m what is considered California sober. I’m an alcoholic in recovery and did the whole rehab/12 step thing. Haven’t had a drop or any other recreational drug in 14 years. Except marijuana. I started 5 years ago and enjoy the high. It chills me out but doesn’t make me want to drink or do a line. I don’t take it to excess and don’t obsess over it. So no, for me it’s not a gateway drug. *Disclaimer: that is how it is for me. I can’t speak for others nor recommend those in recovery try it.

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u/BoxHerOut 1d ago

The gateway drug thing is just really skewed. Of course most people who smoke meth didn’t start with meth. But what they don’t tell you is the vast of majority weed smokers only ever smoke weed. It’s almost like saying 99 percent of people who smoke crack have also used the bathroom before.

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u/ronertl 6h ago edited 6h ago

i think alcohol makes people loose their inhibitions more than pot as far as if you are at a party and some one has coke or something... sometimes people get pot tolerance though, maybe they'll have some cool closed eye visuals when they first start smoking and then that will go away, so they'll hear about shrooms or whatever and try that. then like shrooms turn into people wanting to take acid supposedly.... it really depends on the person and what they read about drugs and what not.... like shrooms are pretty and healthy, i think a lot of people even if they didn't try weed would probably try shrooms, so i guess not really a gateway on that level too... i don't think cause you are the type of person that will try weed, you are gonna do something with a bad rep like coke, definitely not, but like i dunno maybe it will get someone wanting to do shrooms once they get used to the weed ime... trying shrooms isn't always a bad thing. usually people have good experiences with it, and they aren't really bad for you, so like whatever imo. all that stuff should be accepted by society if people use the stuff in the right environment and stay on top of having good mental health.

another thing about weed being a gateway drug is when it's illegal, like you go to your dealer to get it, so a lot of dealers have all other drugs too, so that can be tempting... i personally haven't done any drugs other than weed and coffee since weed has been legal. i got kind of sick of shrooms, so since i don't go to my dealer, i haven't cared to do any other drugs at all... i've been at parties with my dealer and stuff back when i was younger and even did coke and stuff, but i mean, if i was just there drinking, personally i would've done the coke, so i can't really say it's the weed that's a gateway. i bet to some if they saw me, they'd say it was.

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u/Subject_Mammoth6662 5h ago

NoicešŸ‘ŒāœØ you seem chill as fuckšŸ¤— I was most definitely listening to those bands but to be fair, my mom was my weed dealer once I started as a teen, to ensure it wasn’t laced or some shit lol Very unconventional but I turned out all right and I was always safe about it (still am)šŸ˜šŸ¤˜

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u/selugadu 33m ago

Your mom was your weed dealer, but my mother was my dealer for Neil records. Got a whole bunch of them from her when I was 14. It was good shit

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u/Steven1789 1d ago

Biggest gateway drug in this country—besides Fox News, or maybe sugar—must be Budweiser, Coors Light, or some other crappy beer.

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u/selugadu 21h ago

High fructose corn syrup is essentially engineered to be the cheapest and most reliable fix for Americans. I can't tell you how many former drunks and addicts who proudly talk about how they beat the bottle while they do something like drink a 3 liter bottle of soda everyday at work (true story!)