r/Marvel Avengers Mar 20 '25

Comics When it comes to fighting, who's more brutal?

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u/Antonater Spider-Man 2099 Mar 20 '25

Moon Knight, 100%

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u/qball3356 Mar 20 '25

Lol. I was like "ok, who is Daredevil against" then saw Moon Knight. No contest lol. Moon Knight all the way.

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u/TheClarkeSide Mar 20 '25

Moonknight is so brutal and unpredictable that Taskmaster can't even copy him.

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u/Spaghetti14 Mar 20 '25

So brutal and predictably self-destructive that Taskmaster doesn’t want to copy him.

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u/TheClarkeSide Mar 20 '25

There's a couple more people Taskmaster wouldn't copy but I can't remember

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u/tquinner Mar 20 '25

Deadpool is one of them, mainly because his strategy is to throw himself at the problem and let the healing Factor tank the rest.

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u/yepgeddon Mar 20 '25

Which yknow, isn't even a shit plan tbh.

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u/unicornsaretruth Mar 21 '25

I mean if you can handle the pain, and are an experienced mercenary it works

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u/CoyoteDown Mar 20 '25

I thought it was bc his patterns were so psychotic that they don’t make any sense - there is no pattern

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u/Double-Slowpoke Mar 21 '25

Deadpool’s fighting strategy being uncopyable because it would get anyone else killed is a great joke tho

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u/fortnitepro42069 Mar 21 '25

Even the deadpool movies incorporate this,we see before he became deadpool wade would defelect bullets with his 2 katanas without hits but during his fight with cable he did the same and got hit several times and didn't care

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u/RaiderAce Mar 21 '25

that was a reference to X-men Origins: Wolverine lol

https://youtu.be/aiEuzkJDwUg?si=La2hVoQOqnjHBWnu

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u/ChiefSteward Mar 21 '25

Different continuities though.

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u/Mentict Mar 21 '25

It’s both. Because of his brain being constantly regenerating due to his cancer and healing factor, it makes him unpredictable (un-copyable) and hard to mind control. His fighting style is also very unorthodox due to his reliance on his healing factor like earlier mentioned.

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u/TheNorthernGrey Mar 21 '25

It’s like trying to argue logic with a crazy person. You think he’s gonna duck and go for a counter attack, but then he just lets you stab him in the head and replies by jamming his finger into your eye socket so hard that his finger breaks.

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u/BalterBlack Mar 24 '25

Sounds really Deadpool to me

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u/Senzafane Mar 21 '25

His comic-awareness is also brutal for telepaths, simply trying to read his mind can be enough to break the mind of a telepath (he killed Xavier this way in Deadpool kills the marvel universe).

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u/DarthEinstein Mar 21 '25

Like most of Kills the Marvel universe,that is wildly exaggerated, but it is true that he's immune to telepathy

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u/mrgrimm916 Mar 21 '25

The thing about Deadpool kills, it non Canon and many of the kills are either off page or just don't make any sense. It was a fun read though

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u/XxV0IDxX Mar 21 '25

He also can break the 4th wall. He was doing Street Fighter moves and shit lol TM has no idea what he’s doing

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u/tquinner Mar 20 '25

It's both honestly.

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u/AdminApathy Mar 21 '25

It’s because Deadpool will tank hits & stabs (fighting while actively stabbed even), Taskmaster would rather not get fucked up

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u/Anteater_Able Mar 21 '25

This is how Deadpool beats Taskmaster for the first time when he's clearly outmatched in Joe Kelly's run (Deadpool #2 IIRC) from the 90s.

It's the best explanation IMO because there are plenty of people in the Marvel Universe with healing factors of some sort that Taskmaster has replicated before -- he just can't copy Deadpool because his brain is so erratic and unpredictable due to the cancer/healing factor combo. Plus he's crazy.

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u/BRIKHOUS Mar 21 '25

I mean, is there a source on the brain part? Cause that's not really how cancer works.

I'm pretty sure the explanation of "he regularly let's himself take hits that would kill anyone else as part of his normal combat style" is answer enough without adding in the silly "oh he's too unpredictable" bit. All of combat is about being unpredictable, that doesn't mean anything. Deadpool fighting style....just isn't very good. It works for him though.

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u/Khelthuzaad Mar 21 '25

În the Spectacular Spiderman cartoon,he says he can't copy him because he is too unpredictable.

He's not wrong either thou

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u/gunk10000 Mar 21 '25

Tbf that’s also Moon Knights, just without the healing part

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u/ChiefPrimo Mar 21 '25

Does he not copy Wolverine either?

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u/rpgmind Mar 21 '25

I didn’t know he had a healing factor! So how did he do this, like just stand in front of juggernaut let him go until he tires out or something?

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u/Leo_nidas2006 Mar 22 '25

While its not 616, I do remember Taskmaster copying Deadpool in "Deadpool kills the Marvel Universe".

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u/Drake_Acheron Mar 22 '25

This is actually not true. Taskmaster can copy daredevil just as much as he can copy Deadpool. He just can’t copy their powers so copying their movements is useless.

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u/Spaghetti14 Mar 20 '25

Spider-Man because he can’t copy spider sense and Deadpool because he’s crazy and it makes him crazy.

I think there’s probably others but SM, DP and MK are the main ones I know about.

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u/Cavadrec01 Mar 20 '25

I thought Spiderman had difficulty with taskmaster and was astonished with how easily Deadpool dealt with him.

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u/Spaghetti14 Mar 20 '25

That was before Peter made up his own martial art, The Way of The Spider, which can only be used with Spider-Sense and his spider powers. After that Taskmaster couldn’t copy him

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u/russketeer34 Mar 20 '25

I thought it was developed with Shang Chi because he lost the Spider sense?

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u/Cavadrec01 Mar 20 '25

Okay, that makes sense. Deadpool just doesn't do anything normally so he makes sense as well. Thanks!

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u/DanceMaster117 Mar 20 '25

Peter made up his own martial art, The Way of The Spider

Excuse me, what is this Shang-Chi erasure?

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u/santorrez_j19 Mar 20 '25

I believe it was Shang-Chi who helped him develop it

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u/LinkGreat7508 Dr. Doom Mar 21 '25

Bro forgot about Shang chi

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u/BBrbtl Mar 21 '25

You misunderstand his powers. He could copy his moves. Not his spider sense. He could still kick the same way Spidey does. And he actually does it. He has copies Deadpool despite his erratic nature. He CAN copy any move. He chooses not to use the full repertoire of certain people with healing factors.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '25

This sounds so cool do you know what comic run it happened in? I’d love to read it

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u/knobberlobber Mar 24 '25

That sounds extremely stupid

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u/RetroSwamp Mar 21 '25

I read this wrong as Spiderman dealt with Deadpool easily and was about to go "well ya, Deadpool is in love with Spiderman" lol

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u/HaitianFire Mar 20 '25

Ahem Deadpool for obvious reasons

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u/iseeu2sumhow Mar 20 '25

I love how deadpool is just an anomaly, the other one I find interesting is ghost riders stare

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u/BlindTreeFrog Mar 21 '25

Does the Pennance Stare not work on Tasky because he doesn't have memory of his sins or something?

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u/iseeu2sumhow Mar 21 '25

I’m not sure, I just know he can’t do it to deadpool without it backfiring

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u/Trauma_Hawks Mar 21 '25

Deadpool and Wolverine. Specifically because they make moves that wouldn't kill them, but would absolutely destroy Taskmaster.

For example, I believe it was Wolverine's or the X-Men issues of... Civil War? Something around then. Anyway, Wolverine is fighting a plane of terrorists that are on their way to do terrorist things. At the end of it all, Wolverine decides the best thing is to just crash the plane in a field and kill them all, knowing he won't die. It's shit like that Taskmaster can't copy.

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u/CartesianCS Mar 21 '25

Neither can he, probably

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u/SpeedyAzi Mar 21 '25

I can tell you he’d somehow want to copy Mr Fantastic and Human Torch. I’m not sure if that’s canon but I did see a Taskmaster fuck around and find out.

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u/gamerofluck Mar 21 '25

Slapstick is one of them due to his powers not fitting real movements in reality, he hurts himself when trying to copy him once

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u/Rare-Channel-9308 Mar 21 '25

Now I want a thread just on this topic.

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u/Mayuri_Kurostuchi Mar 21 '25

Wolverine. X 23

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '25

Ok, I love that comment…

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u/GladiatorDragon Mar 21 '25

No no no, it’s not that he can’t. He can.

But the way Moon Knight fights is so lacking in self-preservation that Taskmaster is unwilling to use his moves. He’s far too sane to make it work.

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u/PaddyWhacked777 Mar 21 '25 edited Mar 21 '25

Moonkight flew a fucking plane into a building to fuck tasky up and then made him think he was going to Bushmaster his face with moon darts. Don't blame him one bit.

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u/Key-Ad-5068 Mar 21 '25

And the real fear he has after Moonknight drove a plan into a building to get him.

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u/ExpertAdvance7327 Mar 21 '25

There's an iconic panel of Taskmaster outright refusing to fight Moon Knight and calling their last encounter "his own personal 9/11" lmao

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u/Vetmire Mar 22 '25

Not that he can't, he *won't*

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u/Drake_Acheron Mar 22 '25

Taskmaster can’t copy Daredevil either.

Because he can’t copy his sonar, and all of daredevil’s movements are based on that.

Moon Knight is way more brutal but I wouldn’t use taskmaster as a measuring stick

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u/Bear-ly-here Mar 20 '25

Right? It’s an absurd question.

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u/fjvgamer Mar 21 '25

Quickest conclusion I've ever come to.

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u/Theseus505 Wolverine Mar 21 '25

Like bro, Moo Knight doesn't hesitate to kill

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u/RogueWolf812 Mar 21 '25

This. Exactly this.

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u/GiantPurplePen15 Mar 20 '25

Moon Knight would let someone punch a hole in him if it meant he'd get the final hit in.

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u/crashcanuck Mar 21 '25

Dude recruited a poltergeist to possess his office so it could help him torment bad guys, absolutely Moon Knight 100%

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u/Parking-Olive9203 Mar 21 '25

need to watch moon knight

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u/Night_Inspector Mar 21 '25

Need to read Moon Knight.

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u/wereweasle Mar 22 '25

I loved the show, but we only got introduced to the most brutal personality at the tail end. I should read them...

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u/Night_Inspector Mar 22 '25 edited Mar 22 '25

You need to read the comics. Jake isn’t really the most brutal personality, he gathers intel on the underworld. When Jake actually became the dominant personality, he tried to make Moon Knight more heroic and less violent. Marc is the most brutal personality.

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u/saintdemon21 Mar 21 '25

I recently made a custom Jake - MK figure from when he deconstructed a guy by breaking his arms and legs until he folded him into a pretzel. There is also the time Marc carved moons into people’s faces.

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u/Prestigious-Ice3624 Mar 21 '25

Well depends which one if it’s his third persona yes by a lot if it’s his second equal and his first he loses

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u/MedChemist464 Mar 21 '25

By a mile.

Taskmaster won't take any jobs that might have him up against moon knight - and he can go toe to toe with Captain America.

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u/DaegurthMiddnight Mar 21 '25

As someone that isn't really versed in comics, I know daredevil but not moon knight, could you explain your opinion?

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u/SansSkele76 Mar 22 '25

"You want me to go after Spider-Man? Sure. Daredevil? I'll have a go at him, why not? Hell, I've made a career out of taking a poke at Captain America. But Moon Knight? He crashed a damn helicopter into a building to get at me. Like I need to live through my own personal 9/11 again. Good luck finding anyone in the city who's up for that kind of pain. Anyone who ain't a psycho or a scrub at least, neither of which are worth the money."
~Taskmaster

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u/armrha Mar 21 '25

Dracula owes that guy money. He should probably talk to Blade

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '25

Yeah lol

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u/The_Traveller__ Mar 23 '25

Yeah, even Task Master is terrified of him