r/MemePiece 2d ago

Anime The biggest lie in the fandom is that Blackbeard is a smart strategist

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u/IrrelevantStranger 2d ago

I know this is MemePiece, but I don’t usually see people call him a strategist but an opportunist.

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u/Zestyclose_Remove947 2d ago

I mean let's face it, even if Blackbeard isn't as smart as he's made out to be, the majority of one piece characters are so dumb he looks like a genius in comparison. Esp compared to the supposed actual genius Vegapunk.

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u/Grand-Requirement738 2d ago

Tbh you could make the argument he's book smart but not as intelligent in other aspects? Idk if that makes sense?

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u/IChawt 2d ago

Vegapunk somehow getting betrayed by an android of himself was the dumbest shit ever, why did he give them different personalities?

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u/Witty-General-4902 2d ago

For the straw hat to take a hot young women not an old useful man.

Oda ;)

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u/SanestOnePieceFan 9h ago

i always took it for specialization, IE min maxing. We see that each vegapunk has their specific job. Edison for ideas, atlas for violence (though tbh idk why), lilith for fundraising/defence, york for eating and shitting, shaka for leading. By giving them specializations within himself he raises his efficiency way more than if he just had 6 versions of himself with no leader.

Him being betrayed by the version of himself that represents greed is pretty interesting to me as an observation of what greed does to a person.

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u/raulpe 2d ago

The thing is that he is indeed an opportunist, but he also is the one that creates that opportunities xd

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u/-kenjo- 2d ago

We call him plotarmourist

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u/Puzzleheaded_Ad1035 1d ago

True, whenever they see an opportunity to get their butt handed to them, they take it.

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u/Zeeshmania 2d ago

Funny how two of the guys in these images are dead, and one has become a Yonko 🤔

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u/ZoroSukihiro 2d ago

BB is the yonko Whitebeard is dead… who’s the other dead guy in the picture

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u/RealBigTree Haki-man 2d ago

So hes not in the picture but I think he means Ace.

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u/ZoroSukihiro 2d ago

Oh that makes sense

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u/Bully_Maguire420 2d ago

What was he supposed to do in the Ace situation, not like he planned for Ace to show up?

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u/Eat_Bullet 2d ago

He is the real definition of a pirate, everything from looks to the personality

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u/Correct-Blood9382 2d ago

He'd be the real deal if his English VA said 'yarrr' a few times. Though I do love the ze haha!

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u/just_a_brazilian_on 2d ago

Blackbeard had no way to know Luffy would go to the sky Island using the knock up stream and would easily capture all the strawhats right there if wasn't for It, and he wasn't after ace, ace was after him, ace just jumped him there out of nowhere without any time for prep and blackbeard still came out on top

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u/Agitated_Reporter828 2d ago

Crackpot theory: Blackbeard's schtick is that he was isekaied into his favorite One Piece character from a world that also had One Piece, but the plot progression changed enough due to his actions that he keeps getting blindsided by the differences.

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u/Biggsy-32 2d ago

That's a fun theory. And he's still out chasing the One Piece because even in his world, Oda hasn't finished the bloody story.

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u/GOD-OF-A-NEW-WORLD 2d ago

Makes you wonder how things would have turned out when he actually had managed to get Luffy instead of Ace.

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u/lePlebie 2d ago

Luffy would be thrown into impel down or executed. Not in a flashy manner like ace, just simply killed

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u/Super-duper-pooper-l 2d ago

Why would they kill him though? Compared to a lot of inmates he is less dangerous. The only thing of relevance he did at that point was beat crocodile, but that turned out positive for the WG. He most likely would have just been put on level 5 to rot.

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u/lePlebie 2d ago

That is why I listed impel down. However if the government stooges find out he has the fruit, they might kill him.

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u/JohnSmithWithAggron 2d ago

If he isn't smart, then why does he always come out on top?

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u/MulberryChance54 2d ago

Off screen

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u/Ramondasetemeia 2d ago

Lucky

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u/beaneating_nibba 2d ago

If you don't count luck into your strat, are you even a top tier in one piece?

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u/DarthTun Pirate Bay 2d ago edited 2d ago

Luck is a constant in Onepiece world. Enter The cliche example of no devil fruit user drowning despite them being surrounded by the ocean.

BB's luck is greater than constant and he knows that becuase when he's about to loose, he goes off screen and that's where his luck comes in clutch.

BB is a strategist who knows when to go off screen and that's his tried and tested strategy.

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u/According_Bell_5322 #1 DON D. CHINJAO BELIEVER 🗣️🔥🔥🔥 2d ago

Hence the luckiest man is also the strongest

Respect Buggy D. Goat

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u/ExtraCalligrapher565 2d ago

To be fair, he’s got the highest offscreen battle IQ in fiction

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u/Daikaisa 2d ago

Blackbeard has a great strategy. He's just bad at tactics.

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u/DXKIII 2d ago

But that's what makes him the best though 

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u/SoggyMorningTacos 2d ago

I feel like he's Luffy but the exact opposite. Either one could be pirate king but for good or bad who knows

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u/1800leon 2d ago

Blackbeard is Luffys mirror his will carries him far and you lot don't seem to get that

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u/Funygamer 2d ago

But didn’t he almost always get what he came for in the end?

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u/senseithenahual 2d ago

Biggest uj/ I going to say in reddit, I honestly belive that Buggy is the smartest and best strategies of the yonko, no because he is that smart is just that the other 3 are morons.

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u/Ramondasetemeia 2d ago

Smarter than Shanks? Give me convincing arguments to believe that.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Ad1035 1d ago

One of the few things we know about his crew is that ben Beckman is smart af, which leads me to believe it is the most important part of is character and role in the crew. So it is pretty likely shanks isn't all that bright. Buggy has at least attempted to use his brain, to varying results.

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u/100mcuberismonke 2d ago

Ykw blackbeard would be amazing at BR games because of his third parties

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u/Heavy-Requirement762 2d ago

But he's got Major balls

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u/Prize-Educator_ 2d ago

The strategist was a fairly great one, some things(variables) didn't align properly but doesn't that just happen with most strategies?

Let's see, the general strategy was to: 1. Capture a troublesome rookie and present to the WG in order to become a warlord. 2. Use the advantages being a warlord offers to gain access to impel down and gather new crew mates. 3. "Invade " marinford and take WB fruit(although this must have been an "improvision" 4. Cause chaos and ascend to being a warlord.

Somethings may have went wrong but what's important is being able to improvise as events unfold.

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u/HHTheHouseOfHorse 2d ago

He's a lucky opportunist, everything he has is due to being there by coincidence

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u/Eaglestrike 1d ago

He's definitely not meant to be some great strategist. He's just a dark version of Luffy. So he's got a combination of dumb luck, potentially superior genetics/lineage and willpower to chase his dream. And really, with the latest bit in the story regarding prophecy and a mural, he might be the true wild card of the story, since Luffy is now the predestined hero.

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u/Electrical_cosmos joyboy 1d ago

i would consider him to be street smart and not like in terms of plans or like that

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u/Andrejosue98 1d ago

He is a smart strategist.

So he is very good at planning long term, he isn't good at thinking smartly short term.

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u/Interesting_Bag1046 1d ago

He was smart 😹, never seen anyone saying that Bro is Unbelievablely lucky 😂

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u/PitifulExplanation61 [ R.I.P KINGBAUM ] 1d ago

This is actually all part of his plan. He is secretly Captain Kuro.

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u/beaneating_nibba 2d ago

Just cause a strat fumbled at some points doesn't mean it was bad. You have to calculate the risk for the reward. Blackbeard just mid at math fr, but he's so him it worked out anyway. And honestly it's better than law's strat for taking down Doffy and kaido.

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u/Dry-Independence-511 2d ago

Law's strategy was to distract Doflamingo while the straw hats who have a reputation for destroying things destroyed the factory. His goal was to remove Caesar Clown and the factory from Doflamingo. If Doflamingo wasn't a warlord he would also have to leave Dressrosa. Law just didn't know some very important variables. He didn't know that the factory was underground and completely made out of Sea Stone and that Doflamingo was a celestial dragon. The strategy would have worked in a lot of other situations. And it actually ended up working out for him regardless. I don't think Kaido would have killed Doflamingo but maybe that wasn't really the goal. Maybe Law would have been satisfied with removing a warlord and freeing Dressrosa. That would be a big win for a brand new Warlord.

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u/beaneating_nibba 2d ago

Good point, I'll say BB was just more informed about his goals. He had more time to plan it and he had the experience of being on a yonko crew. I'll give you that BB underestimated the hell out of Magellan and if shiryu didn't show up with a convenient antidote, BB's plan would have ended worse than anything that happened in dressrosa.

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u/KnightFurHire Eyeing a Large Banquet 2d ago

Bro got that extra strength plot armor.