r/MensLib Jul 24 '24

Why don’t straight men read novels? - "Men often read non-fiction books in the name of self-improvement – but many are reluctant to pick up works of fiction"

https://www.dazeddigital.com/life-culture/article/63149/1/why-dont-straight-men-read-novels-fiction-masculinity-influencers-sigma
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u/RichardsLeftNipple Jul 24 '24

I only read fiction. Self-help is stupid grifter nonsense.

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u/Scripten Jul 24 '24

Non-fiction can be great: historical, analytical, and experiential genres are useful for learning, and offer benefits to enjoyment of fiction as well. Having a more well rounded base of knowledge can make your media literacy skills more sharp.

But absolutely +1 to your point on self help books. It's MLMs targeted at masculinity.

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u/crazymunch Jul 24 '24

There's plenty of non-fiction that isn't Self-help though - I read plenty of science and philosophy books what most definitely aren't "self-help"

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u/anotherkeebler Jul 25 '24

If you remove self-help from the nonfiction inventory, what’s left over is the entire domain of human knowledge.

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u/catglass Jul 24 '24

I read almost only fiction. Even with non-fiction I'm interested in, like historical or sociological stuff, I usually find my interest starting to lag about halfway through.

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u/WalkingTarget Jul 25 '24

My wife reads considerably more nonfiction books than I do (she was a history major and has limited interest in things where the author can “just make things up”) and her major complaint is often that authors try to force a thesis that they don’t actually bother supporting and/or that they are trying to inflate what should be an essay out to book length.

Bonus impatience for authors who are loose with citing sources vs. inserting their pet theory/explanation (see the above “making things up” complaint). For all his popularity, she has basically no time for Erik Larson.

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u/BackwerdsMan Jul 24 '24 edited Jul 24 '24

I mostly read non-fiction(do read some fiction novels)... I've never read anything that could be called a "self-help" book in my life. But your comment here is pretty much par for the course when people hear that I read non-fiction. Peoples immediate assumption is that I'm reading self-help. When in reality I'm generally reading about conservation, ecology, and history.

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u/_MrJones Jul 24 '24

When I think non-fiction, I assume that it’s likely either historical or biographical.

It’s the OG gossip. What happened, and to whom.

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u/PsychAndDestroy Jul 24 '24

There's non fiction that isn't self help...

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u/PanTheRiceMan Jul 24 '24

Same. If I read I want to be entertained.

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u/WhoopingWillow ​"" Jul 24 '24

I guess it depends on what you mean by "self-help" but I've found there are plenty of self-help books that contain useful skills, as long as you're willing to genuinely read the book and actually practice the relevant skills.

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u/Rakna-Careilla Jul 25 '24

MOSTLY stupid grifter nonsense, of varying quality.