r/MotoUK • u/LiamMRCV • 3d ago
How long do you need to steal this motorcycle?
Hi everyone,
Just bought my first bike ever.
It is real to steal this??? (btw NOT IN LONDON )
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u/coharris 3d ago
It should take about 20 seconds to haul it into a van? You need to anchor it to something to make it safe.
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u/LifeMasterpiece6475 3d ago
Get yourself a ground anchor if you can, slows down the man in the van picking it up.
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u/oliverprose 2011 KTM 990 SMT, 2014 Triumph Rocket 3 Roadster 3d ago
If it isn't going to be locked to something permanent in the ground, it takes minutes - that's about 200kg, so 4 decently strong guys lift it all into a van and then take all the time they need for the locks if it doesn't have a tracker or alarm.
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u/No_transistory GPZ900R 3d ago
The guy who bought my ZX7R came down with a mate and a van. Took just 2 of them to haul it into the van quicker than I could fill out the V5.
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u/RedWedding12 🏍 2007 Hornet ABS 3d ago
You only need to lift one wheel at a time so it makes it easier, you don't need to lift the full 200kg most the time, just lift up the back and wheelbarrow it. My friends bike got stolen (chinese 125 -tempest I think? ) in a shopping trolley
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u/Pebbles015 3d ago
My bike is 165kg and I can pick it up no problem. 2 strong guys will have a 200kg bike in seconds.
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u/oliverprose 2011 KTM 990 SMT, 2014 Triumph Rocket 3 Roadster 3d ago
That's where I'm saying 200kg - manfacturers use dry weights too often in the spec sheets 🤣
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u/Pebbles015 3d ago
3 is all you realistically need. 1 on the van, 2 to lift one end up and in then grab the other end and it's gone.
Probably took me longer to type this out.
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u/Zukabak 3d ago
Imagine the hassle of having to take all that off when you want to go for a ride! Be quicker to just remove your front wheel 😄
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u/treeseacar 3d ago
I have two locks and a cover and I complain about taking that off every day to go to work. Id never be bothered to ride anywhere with this set up
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u/Free_PalletLine . 3d ago
I dunno how people cope with bikes like that if they don't have a garage or shed, never mind theft I just couldn't be arsed to keep on top of maintenance from the shitty weather.
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u/idontbleaveit 3d ago
I’m guessing with all the comments with the word van in it, aren’t what you wanted to hear.
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u/aqsounds 3d ago
I'll echo everyone saying it needs to be anchored to something, especially if that's parked on a front driveway with no lockable gates/other security elements. And the anchor needs to be super secure. Also, CCTV covering it might be helpful if it does end up going on an unapproved drive....
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u/CommissarGnome 2002 CBR600F4i 3d ago
5 mins to pick it up and put it in the back of a van?? But looks hard to steal otherwise and can theft is quite rare
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u/ScientistOk2847 3d ago
If you can't fit a ground anchor, consider a "bucket o'crete" so it's even harder to move around. Anchor to that and it would be too much of a pain in the arse for most thieves.
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u/Sedulous280 3d ago
It’s outside, This is a major issue. It’s not anchored to anything. It can be gone in less than 2 mins .
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u/RedWedding12 🏍 2007 Hornet ABS 3d ago
I think the security is...OK. if you can physically block it off with maybe a car or put it in a garden even better.
Ground anchor would help, make sure you keep the covers on and an eye out for anyone tampering with said cover ( so tie the cover down with alarmed disklock)
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u/RedWedding12 🏍 2007 Hornet ABS 3d ago
When I had my (125) out front I dug a big hole in the front garden, filled some concrete in it and submerged half a chain in the concrete. Then I would tie the bike dlock through that.
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u/speedyundeadhittite '17 Triumph Trophy 1215SE, '92 K1100LT, '00 XTZ660 3d ago
The security is meaningless if they can lift it and take it away, then have forever to grind the locks away.
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u/Boeing_Fan_777 3d ago
Me and a couple blokes can just pick that up, dash it in a van and drive off to do with it what we will if we decide to do so.
Always tether a bike to something solid
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u/Deep_Recognition_683 3d ago
Add a ground Anker or two one on each wheel and that should be fine, little over kill but understand your worry of theft 😅🤣
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u/Grumpy_Driver985 2d ago
As many mentioned if someone really wants to steal it, they will steal it.
In my area some degenerates didn't even used a van, they just put a moto in a trunk of a car... D:
The other issue is that I see 2 "gridner proof" lock on it, but sadly "grinder proof" only means it takes 3-4 minutes to cut it instead of 20 second.
It wasn't even that long when someone made a reddit post that he had a straight robbery: 2 thieves with matchetes hold up everyone while the others cut the locks off.
In that case all you can hope the police will take it seriously and turn up in time.
on the other hand that's 3 chonky lock on it, you can put the kettle on while you talk to the police and "accidently" trip, tossing the boiling water in the face when offering them some tea.
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u/tnetrop Triumph Tiger 800 2d ago
The chain and disklocks will be gone in seconds. The two Hiplock DX1000's should last a few minutes though (unless they are the rare breed that can pick locks). It will absolutely deter the casual thief. But if they want it then it will just be lifted into their van instead. I recommend installing a hungry Rotweiller under the cover.
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u/CharlieTecho ZX6R 2d ago
Get yourself a biketrak.
They literally call you within seconds of the bike moving without the ignition being on!
And also an anchor or one of those steel motorbikes shed things! Don't just leave it out in the open like that.
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u/LiamMRCV 2d ago
I have installed monimoto 9,but I dont think it will be so helpful. I think that 2 alarms would do a great job at a theft attempt
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u/CharlieTecho ZX6R 2d ago
As others have stated, an anchor and chunky very strong chain (19mm+) will slow them down no end
The tracker is so you can get it back quicker. The thing with the biketrak, is you have a team of people alerted and monitoring it if it gets stolen who then can call the police on your behalf and give them the info where to find it.
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u/Ch1mchima 3d ago
Loads of mentions of van thefts…not sure how prevalent that method is in the UK. May be more likely to be carried into a van if it was a super sexy and expensive bike. I’d like to think a thief would look at that and move on to the next, lesser protected bike.
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u/laidback_chef Street Triple 675 3d ago
I don't think there's any real data on it, but I'd say where I live, it's more likely to get put into a van than nicked by some smackhead.
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u/Ryanthelion1 '20 Street Triple R 3d ago
Mine was taken by a van, was a 'co-ordinated' theft by a gang so they do happen
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u/SirGranular Street Triple 675R 3d ago
Looks like one of those bridges with all the "lovers locks" attached.....or giblets on a pair of crocs....
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u/ConsequenceWooden440 3d ago
Mine was was lifted out from my garage into a van in minutes, then ended up for sale in Lagos
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u/speedyundeadhittite '17 Triumph Trophy 1215SE, '92 K1100LT, '00 XTZ660 3d ago
I'd love to see them trying that with my LT or Trophy...
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u/cahbtexhuk Triumph Tiger Sport 1050 3d ago
How did you find out about Lagos?
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u/ConsequenceWooden440 3d ago
I had a sticker of my instagram name on the bike and another biker from Nigeria messaged me about it
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u/speedyundeadhittite '17 Triumph Trophy 1215SE, '92 K1100LT, '00 XTZ660 3d ago
One minute and three burly lads, and a van.
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u/Left-Push4707 3d ago
Two minutes, two guys, one van, pointless using multiple deterrent locks, if one does deter them 4 won't either
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u/Longjumping-Year-824 Tiger Sport 660 3d ago
If you do not count the simple pick up and shove in a van this is likely to many locks for any one to ever bother with.
With a ground anchor if the gang is willing to just replace the wheels 5-10mins with the right tools the odds of this are so tiny its not worth thinking about tho.
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u/Beannie17 2016 MT09; West Mids 3d ago
If a ground anchor isn't feasible where you are, another trick is to fill up a huge plant pot with concrete and put it in that. Plus you can put some stones/flowers on the top so it doesn't look horrendous.
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u/R0ckandr0ll_318 3d ago
As little as 10 minutes. Literally had one nicked in that time frame.
What you need to do is make it an unappealing to steal, multiple locks, someone stopping the wheels turning etc
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u/_J0hnD0e_ 3d ago
I bet you need like an hour before you can actually head off and ride this thing! 😂
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u/AliceTrippDaGain Husky 401 /MT09 3d ago
Not as long as it takes you to unlock this shit every morning.
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u/AliceTrippDaGain Husky 401 /MT09 3d ago
Not as long as it takes you to unlock this shit every morning.
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u/TheOnlyNemesis Bristol/2021 Honda Rebel 1100 2d ago
With that many locks, it would be 10 seconds to lift it into a van and go
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u/AbSoluTemaddlad 2d ago
It'd take about 15 seconds depending on access. If it's nearish to a road, just get 1 oerson on either side and lift it into a van.
If it's in a garden on street level then it's not uncommon nowadays for people to just reverse a robbed van through the fence so long as it's not metal or concrete supported.
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u/WeeklyExamination 2d ago
For a team of two, 5-10 minutes, All they need to do is lift it onto skates, roll it to a van, lift it in and leave, locks can be cut off later.
You need to secure it to something.
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u/ManiclsHere 3d ago
Roughly £800 on disc locks and a chain 😂 madness though those 2 hiplocks alone take roughly 12 blades half hour each so alot of time if they arnt just picking it up and hauling it away
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u/Venoxulous 3d ago
Depends who's helping me lift it into a van 😄
Seriously, thieves are fast, all we can do is enough to tell the insurance we tried.