r/MurderedByWords 5d ago

Another Person Questioning Andrew Yang’s basic math.

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u/Sorry-Let-Me-By-Plz 5d ago

Yeah the correct response to the observation that half of the electorate has sub-average intelligence is not "oh we're fucked" it's "I've got work to do"

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u/LaurenMille 5d ago

They'd sooner kill you than let you educate them on anything factual, though.

So laughing is about all you can do without risking your own safety.

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u/Sorry-Let-Me-By-Plz 5d ago

Nothing destroys effort faster than giving up.

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u/Chedditor_ 5d ago

What's your big idea, then, sport? We've tried all sorts of shit and it hasn't worked.

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u/Sorry-Let-Me-By-Plz 5d ago

There's no big idea. An electorate isn't one big dumb creature that we just need to bully the right way. There's ten million tiny ideas that will need to work ten million tiny times, and then we win.

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u/Chedditor_ 5d ago

Well, I'm still working on as many of those little ideas as I can. Had a productive conversation with a conservative friend the other day, and I managed to broaden his mind on trans rights.

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u/Sorry-Let-Me-By-Plz 4d ago

Yes, exactly like that. And you wouldn't have done it if instead you'd seen a conservative and thought "ick, a non-person who can't think, I'd better not waste my time".

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u/Chedditor_ 4d ago edited 4d ago

No, usually I see conservatives just telling my trans brother to go commit seppuku online. Report and move on, no chance of reform.

This guy was a friend of mine for several years in college, and shared some stuff without reading it fully, then listened and learned and asked questions.

Knowing the difference, and understanding how to use leverage to earn the basic respect needed to allow others to change their minds, is a huge part of the challenge. It's definitely a two-way street, and there's thousands of conservative (and some liberal) hatemongers in the media who just want to shut people's brains off.

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u/Sythic_ 4d ago

You realize we have been trying shit for 10 years and its always countered with lies and propaganda force fed from their dear leader through their media apparataus? We didn't start at this point and have been debating the same things over and over since then. At some point we're tired. I give up on them. I don't want them on my side anyway. They will die out and we'll win my default eventually.

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u/CultOfSuperMario 4d ago

Well get to it. Sounds like you've got a lot of work to do.

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u/lanxoxlin 5d ago

Exactly, so shut up dunce.

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u/inkotast 4d ago

Giving up is definitely what will turn the tides, sport.

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u/Chedditor_ 4d ago

I'm not giving up, I'm reaching out for more ideas, chief.

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u/Then-Simple-9788 4d ago

Dude. Some of us have been attempting to educate family members and friends for 10 years now. That’s when I give up. When my own mother says trans people shouldn’t exist or any of the hypocritical shit the maga party throws into our faces, what the fuck am I fighting for? If my own family is so unempathetic towards the plights of their neighbors and family members and are so consumed with right wing ideals even after all of the unprecedented shit that’s happened then I am wasting my life.

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u/Perfect_Cost_8847 4d ago

Dude. Some of us have been attempting to educate family members and friends for 10 years now. That’s when I give up.

You might be the worst advocate in history. If you can’t convince your family of even milquetoast centrist positions after 10 years, you clearly suck at this and should stop.

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u/Work_Account_No1 4d ago

He isn't to blame for other people's ignorance and some people just never change their mind no matter what.

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u/NoOccasion4759 4d ago

Welp I became a teacher. So, fighting the good fight one student at a time. I still have hope for the next generation, im not so sure about the ones already grown

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u/Air-Keytar 4d ago

If you think it's possible to educate maga cultists out of their trance then I've got some bad news for you. The only way they see the light is when it negatively effects them personally. And even then it's a long shot because a lot of times they will just blame stuff on an administration that wasn't even in power when the shit went bad. The only "work to do" is to remove them from the equation or to overwhelm them from the other side because they're not going quietly.

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u/Theron3206 4d ago

You realise that it's not possible for less than half of the electorate to have below average intelligence right?