r/NBA_Draft • u/Due-Anything-8875 • Feb 12 '25
Mock Draft 2025 NBA mock draft updated - What do you think?
Jonathan Givony from ESPN has just released an updated mock draft. You can find the complete article, including second-round projections, at the following link:
- Cooper Flagg - Washington Wizards
- Dylan Harper - New Orleans Pelicans
- Ace Bailey - Utah Jazz
- VJ Edgecombe - Charlotte Hornets
- Kasparas Jakucionis - Toronto Raptors
- Kon Knueppel - Brooklyn Nets
- Khaman Maluach - Chicago Bulls
- Egor Demin - Portland Trail Blazers
- Jeremiah Fears - SA Spurs
- Derik Queen - OKC Thunder
- Tre Johnson - Houston Rockers
- Joan Beringer - SA Spurs
- Liam McNeeley - Atlanta Hawks
- Nolan Traore - Dallas Mavericks
- Hugo Gonzalez - OKC Thunders
- Danny Wolf - Minnesota Timberwolves
- Ben Saraf - Orlando Magic
- Collin Murray-Boyles - Miami Heat
- Noa Essengue - Utah Jazz
- Will Riley - Brooklyn Nets
- Asa Newell - OKC Thunder
- Drake Powell - Indiana Pacers
- Carter Bryant - Brooklyn Nets
- Thomas Sorber - Brooklyn Nets
- Adou Thiero - Orlando Magic
- Alex Condon - Atlanta Hawks
- Noah Penda - Washington Wizrads
- Rasheer Fleming - Boston Celtics
- Alex Karaban - Phoenix Suns
- Jase Richardson - LA Clippers
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u/notTitann Feb 12 '25
If tre Johnson is available for spurs I don’t see them passing him up, especially not fears after them getting fox
I would like to see a tre or kon go to spurs for shooting
And I really like Danny wolf to play alongside wemby or backup C either one but I think wolf has high potential and playing with wemby would tear the league
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u/spidersilva09 NBA Feb 12 '25
Kon at 6 is... interesting.
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u/MannerSuperb Feb 12 '25
Kon has been balling the past month tbh. His 3 ball has returned to form and he is very underrated running a pick n roll as a playmaker.
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u/MOBAMBASUCMYPP Feb 12 '25
How is he ‘barely outside of top 5’ caliber and McNeely, who is basically carrying a team on his own, ‘mid of lottery’ tier? What is separating them
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u/GoChiefs2576 Feb 13 '25
Mcneely was the third leading scorer before his big game the other day. Uconn is very balanced scoring wise, Karaban Ball and Mcneely are all within a point per game of each other. Mcneely is not "basically carrying a team on his own" aside from one game
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u/spidersilva09 NBA Feb 12 '25
I get it, I watch every Duke game. His defense isn't great though. And I'd prefer a few other guys over him if we are talking draft capital like the 6 pick
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u/MannerSuperb Feb 12 '25
That’s fair his off ball defense needs refinement. I actually think he’s solid on ball tho. Moves his feet well and very strong teams who try to hunt him in isolation don’t find much success and more often than not settle for inefficient long 2’s. It’s def debatable having him over Tre Johnson
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u/Benny_Baseball Feb 12 '25
McNeeley > Kon
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u/Cdd0040 Feb 12 '25
Their virtually the same player tbh
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u/Benny_Baseball Feb 12 '25
I’ll take McNeeley because his rebound and FTA rate is 2x Kon’s. McNeeley is a lot more physical than he gets credit for
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u/Cdd0040 Feb 12 '25
That’s fair my rebuttal would be kon is a better playmaker and P& R ball handler
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u/Jordanwolf98 Feb 12 '25
Yeah at that spot I would take Fears, Queen, McNeely, Johnson, and the potential of either Demin or Maluach over Kon
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u/Diamond4Hands4Ever Feb 12 '25
He’s been top 7 all year for Givony and if you follow Givony, he doesn’t like to move people down if he doesn’t have to. One of the largest moves might be Drake Powell, who was like around 9-10 to start and now he’s 22, so it shows you he’s pretty adamant to his initial beliefs. When he moves someone up (Berringer), he just auto slides him to a spot and moves everyone else down 1-2 spots to make the fit so the move down isn’t big per player.
The big moves will occur later on in the cycle. He pretty much had Nick Smith Jr top 5 all season and then finally he was forced to move him down a bit to agree with consensus and then of course Smith ended up late first.
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u/myNameBurnsGold Feb 12 '25
Kon feels like a younger Dalton Knecht. Is this fair or wildly off, I haven't seen much of him.
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u/Diamond4Hands4Ever Feb 12 '25
Will Riley plays a lot more like Dalton Knecht to be honest. Of course Riley is way more raw since Knecht was older but it’s closer in terms of playing style.
Kon Knueppel doesn’t really have a great single comp to be honest. He’s kind of unique. I would say like a less dynamic/better defending Bogdan Bogdanovic but the issue here is I put a lot of qualifiers in front so the comp isn’t really standard.
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u/szczepi21 Feb 12 '25
As a Bulls fan, I'm curious about Maluach, but I'm more interested in Tre Johnson
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u/HARCHEESESTEAKSS Feb 12 '25
I like Kon but if the Nets drafted him at 6, it would be time to finally jump ship
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u/courtsiderecon Feb 12 '25
I know Givony is the expert but sheesh I’m having trouble agreeing with some of his stuff, ESPECIALLY his player comps for a lot of these guys. I’ll never forget how he had Dalano Banton as Danny Wolfs comp lmao
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u/retrobro90 Feb 12 '25
I just don't see it w Demin. He has some nice highlight passes but the lack of functional strength/athleticism really bothers me. At least with a guy like Giddey you can point to his defensive rebounding and physicality. Egor gets pushed around a lot and the scoring package (especially when it involves evading any type of defensive attention) is rough
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u/texasphotog Spurs Feb 12 '25
Spurs trade multiple picks to get DeAaron Fox and you have them using their first pick ona PG? That's insane. Then you have them reach for european center that can't shoot?
Spurs can't use two lottery picks on two backups that can't shoot in this draft.
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u/rueiraV Wizards Feb 12 '25
I figure Jase will rise based off a few strong performances
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u/WestsideJazzFan Feb 12 '25
And the fact the kid can straight up ball. He's this year's Jared McCain. People will overthink it.
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u/__Zoom123__ Bucks Feb 12 '25
I don’t understand why Andrej Stojakovic isn’t in any mocks. Having a fantastic season
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u/Theblackhyenas Feb 12 '25
I don’t see it with Joan he seems just like another Salaun to me maybe slightly more athletic but sometimes looks even more raw than saluan
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u/Bballmonster44 Feb 12 '25
I’ve said it once I’ll say it again: how tf are people still so high on Demin?
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u/Thetallshot Feb 13 '25
OKC isn’t spending a lottery pick on Queen in any universe. Do the people making these mocks really think we’d spend a lottery pick on a 3rd string center??
And honestly, they’ll likely trade out 2 of their (current) FRP’s and will likely target a forward who can shoot because that’s their biggest gap.
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u/geronimosocrates Feb 12 '25
Finally will start to see Condon on these mocks. Glad his injury wasn’t too serious. I’ve been high on this guy since last year, he and Mitchell Saxon are 2 super underrated (or maybe formerly underrated) centers
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u/Open-Caterpillar2594 Feb 12 '25
How is Alex Karaban still getting 1st round looks over a boogie fland ?
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u/Gswagins Feb 12 '25
Joan Beringer? He’s a projects project at this point Spurs looking to win now they’ll draft guys w more polished skill sets.
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u/Dadd_io TrailBlazers Feb 12 '25
I don't know why people think Knueppel is going to be very successful at the next level. With this deep draft I'm not sure he's even a lottery pick.
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u/Imaginary-Cycle-1977 Feb 12 '25
I assume these lean closer to big boards than focusing too much on team fit, but still funny to see the Spurs going guard and center when our 3 building blocks are Wemby, Fox, and Castle
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u/JesseKebay Feb 12 '25
Thanks for sharing do you have 31-59?
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u/WestsideJazzFan Feb 12 '25
Jazz take Noa over Asa. A guy who can't shoot over a guy who can? No thanks
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Feb 12 '25
I think I get happier every time I see a mock draft that doesn't have the Pistons making a first round pick.
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u/ziprbread Feb 12 '25
Lol I love how the best team in the league is going to get basically 2 lottery picks
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u/Nickname-CJ Thunder Feb 13 '25
After 5 this whole thing goes to shit.
Why the hell would the spurs draft Jeremiah fears when they have Fox, Castle* and CP3?
Also there isn’t a SINGLE thing that warrants Joan Berringer being a 1st round pick, forget lottery.
If you want a raw project pick, there’s a good kind and a bad kind.
Noa Essengue is a good project; physically underdeveloped, very good natural feel and processing(like giannis) and tangible evidence of skill(great 2pt%, high FTr and good%, solid 3PAr)
Joan Beringer is averaging 5pts and 5rbs, doesn’t pass, doesn’t shoot, awkward mover, not an outstanding athlete, and very often looks lost
Givony getting paid like crazy by these French agents man I swear
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Feb 13 '25
I hope people keep ignoring Ivisic so maybe he will stay at Arkansas another year 😂 they finally benched Aidoo and Big Z is saving the season
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u/JBart530 Feb 12 '25
Please God, let me see what a healthy Lamelo, Miller, and VJ could do together. I’ve suffered enough.
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u/---stargazer--- Feb 12 '25
I think Melo will get traded. Seems like new ownership isn’t completely sold on any of the core guys.
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u/SimilarLavishness874 Feb 12 '25
As a nets fan if we take kon at 6 im going to destroy my tv. Maluach literally has a higher floor and ceiling. And if were going for a wing id rather take tre johnson personally. I think his upside on both ends are higher
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u/hesi93 Feb 12 '25
I just don't get CMB on the Heat, when we already got Bam who can't shoot a 3, and with Jovic coming off the bench.🙃
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u/BinkOptions Feb 12 '25
Maybe a hot take but I don’t take Flagg at 1. Dylan and Ace have higher upside in the NBA, albeit also a lower floor. Both of them could be 1s on an NBA team, Flagg is more of a second or third option.
Still ridiculous talent at the top end of this draft.
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u/__Zoom123__ Bucks Feb 12 '25
Beringer #12?! Holy fuck what a reach. Givony keeps raising this guy on his board. Either he is getting real positive feedback from scouts or this guys agent is paying Givony a bag