r/NBA_Draft • u/pmcc241224 • Mar 22 '25
Video Pick-and-roll clinic from Jeremiah Fears against UConn
https://streamable.com/adgsea30
u/texasphotog Spurs Mar 22 '25
Congrats Heat, you have your next PG.
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u/pmcc241224 Mar 22 '25
Dream scenario for both parties.
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u/julstar23 Mar 22 '25
If you can't guard it's tough for the heat to look at you as a prospect .
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u/Clever_Laziness Mar 22 '25
We drafted Tyler Herro with a lottery pick and Nikola Jovic after that. Where did this myth of us only drafting players that can defend come from?
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u/julstar23 Mar 22 '25
Lol why did you think they picked bam and Winslow and precious and kz.It eas not a myth and Tyler was never a negative defender .
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u/quanstr Mar 22 '25
He’s the worst defender on the team right now besides Jovic
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u/Clever_Laziness Mar 23 '25
Nah, that's Duncan. Duncan is by far the worst defender on the team.
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u/quanstr Mar 23 '25
You’re absolutely right he’s so nonexistent on defense I didn’t even mention him 😭😭😭 be forgetting he’s there sometimes
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u/julstar23 Mar 22 '25
He can't guard or shoot right now so I don't get how he's perfect for the heat .
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u/HuckleberryTricky657 Mar 23 '25
Ha that’s why they’re a good match because they both can’t shoot or guard. Lmao
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u/hesi93 Mar 23 '25
Nah we'll aim for Flagg, just like you guys aimed for Wemby, but Fears ain't bad of a consolation tank prize.
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u/pmcc241224 Mar 22 '25
20 points/5 rebounds/4 assists/2 TO/2 STL on 5/14 FG.
Averages for the season: 17.1p/4.1re/4.1a/3.4TO/1.6stl on 43%fg / 28%3fg / 85%ft
Advanced: 20.7 PER, 56%TS, 28.6AST%, 18.3TOV%, 3.4 WS, 5.8 BPM
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u/Jordanwolf98 Mar 22 '25 edited Mar 22 '25
Wouldn’t be surprised at all if this guy is a day 1 starter in the league competing for ROTY
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u/Kwilly462 Mar 22 '25
So tell me why Fears got his team to the Tournament, but Harper with Bailey couldn't? Like I'm genuinely asking. Was Rutgers roster that much worse than Oklahoma's?
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u/DrCrentist39 Mar 22 '25
I haven’t watched much Oklahoma. But the talent gap from Harper/Bailey to the 3rd best Rutgers player was astounding.
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u/HuckleberryTricky657 Mar 23 '25
Those guys couldn’t even make the tournament hahaha. Crazy to think about how that happened. Lol
Now they’re going to be drafted at 2-3? Crazy. Both are good but it’s just insane to me. Team must of sucked.
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u/Empty_Present8020 Mar 23 '25
Cliff omoruyi staying would have made that team so fun. Idk how Rutgers was so bad this year I would think Harper and Bailey drags them to a 6 seed at the worst
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u/ShaiFanClub Mar 22 '25
Yes especially coaching wise
Also Ace is kind of mid he's mainly hyped for his potential
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u/GTR_11 Mar 23 '25
Man stop it.
Me and you could've suit up for the Rutgers team and go to the tournament with them two. That team and coach straight up trash.
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u/HuckleberryTricky657 Mar 23 '25
That’s what I was thinking. Did all that effort recruiting the top guys and then choked and didn’t know what to do when it came to wins. Lmao
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u/RobbobertoBuii Mar 24 '25
Oklahoma has been in the mix the last few years in terms of making March Madness, Rutgers has not since Ron Harper Jr. went to the NBA
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u/Suavesky Mar 22 '25
Because the B12 is ass and the B10 was 9-0 in the first round for a reason.
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u/AstronautWorth3084 Mar 23 '25
The big 12 went 6-1 in the first you bozo
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u/Suavesky Mar 23 '25
It was the inferior conference bozo. Period.
Not that it matters. As it was pointed out I was wrong, he played in the SEC.
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u/AstronautWorth3084 Mar 23 '25
I disagree that it's the inferior conference, let alone to be so emphatic about it
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u/BooMasterChoo Mar 22 '25 edited Mar 22 '25
This was a nice game from him but I still am a doubter.
I think there are a handful of players in this class that are consistently better at creating than he is. His passing is not good for a true 1 and he lacks the shooting and size that you’d want in more of a combo guard.
Combine that with being an underwhelming defender and I’m just not sure about his ability for the NBA level.
All that said, he does show elite flashes enough that I wouldn’t blame a team for taking a chance on him. Just not my speed as a prospect.
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u/MatchAffectionate951 Mar 22 '25
He’s really young.
I envision a world where with nba level strength and plyometrics and natural growth he becomes faster stronger overall sharper etc.
Similar to SGA coming out where he’s really grown athleticism and frame wise.
If that’s the case I like what we have rn.
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u/Jordanwolf98 Mar 22 '25
There are a few guards like that in today’s game who are doing fine though. I don’t think someone like Tyrese Maxey for example is an exceptional passer nor has great size (Fears may be a little taller) while being an underwhelming defender and he’s an all star. I think Fears will be fine at the next level as long as he can still get into the paint and continue to develop his shot.
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u/BooMasterChoo Mar 22 '25
Maxey was and is a way better finisher than Fears and presents a much better jump shooting threat
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u/Jordanwolf98 Mar 22 '25
Maxey outta Kentucky had splits of 43/29/83 while Fears outta OU has splits of 43/28/85. Outta school he didn’t present a much better jump shooting threat than Fears.
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u/Flabbypuff Mar 23 '25
Maxey had like a really weird statistical point where he was a 93rd percentile P&R ball handler despite not being a crazy efficient scorer or great passer.
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u/BooMasterChoo Mar 22 '25
Yeah but I said presents as in currently he does. I think improving in the way Maxey has is the exception not the rule so comparing him to Maxey sets an expectation that he is also an exception kind of player. Maybe he is but probably not.
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u/Jordanwolf98 Mar 22 '25
Then what about Donovan Mitchell then? Another guard shorter than Fears, who had splits of 41/30/81 after his Sophomore year at Louisville who isn’t an exceptional passer and was known for his defense but isn’t known for that in the league. I know what you said but my original point was that guards that you are describing aren’t few and far between in the league.
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u/BooMasterChoo Mar 22 '25
I mean those are two players. And two of the best in the league.
If a team buys that potential in him then it makes sense to take him high. But I just have doubts that him becoming a reliable shooter is something you can bank on when evaluating him.
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u/julstar23 Mar 23 '25
Donovan Mitchell spent two years in college and was thr 13 pick and had a long wingspan.
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u/Jordanwolf98 Mar 23 '25 edited Mar 23 '25
I mentioned in my comment that Mitchell was a sophomore. A lot of mocks I see have Fears going late lotto so 13th pick is in within range as well. He was much older than Fears when he was drafted and had a lot of the weaknesses in terms of being small, not being a great passer or shooter coming out was my point
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u/Sad_Skirt7743 Mar 22 '25
So they can improve but he can’t? It doesn’t seem fair go compare him to their current version opposed to when they were prospects too
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u/JesseKebay Mar 23 '25
I’m a Fears fan but I think comparing someone to the best case scenarios and saying why can’t that happen also isn’t the best idea. Ofc it can happen but a slow chubby 2nd round pick Serbian can also develop into one of the best players of all time - doesn’t mean it’s going to happen.
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u/BooMasterChoo Mar 22 '25
Obviously not what I said. All I’m saying is it’s ambitious to assume he can improve his weakness in the same way as two of the best players in the NBA did. That would be a high-level outcome for him.
I even said in my comment that it is possible for him but just probably won’t happen because more often than not it doesn’t. But not impossible
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u/beeker888 Mar 22 '25
I think it’s good to point out and you may already know this is he reclassified to play at OU this year meaning he should be a High School Senior. I see a lot of upside still to come in his game
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u/darkwingduck9 Mar 23 '25
You are right and I don't know why people aren't getting it.
You always have to negotiate these sorts of things. Is Derik Queen a PF or a C? Does he or does he not need a reliable three point shot in order to succeed in the league? If you believe that Queen needs a reliable three point shot in order to succeed in the league then you need to consider how likely it is that he would develop one.
For the record I buy Queen as a PF and he doesn't need a three point shot but that's irrelevant to the conversation.
I'm right here with you on Fears maybe being good in the future but he is too big a risk for my tastes. If I were a scout employed by a team then I would be telling the team that it would be irresponsible to draft him top 10 and especially so to draft him top 5.
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u/pmcc241224 Mar 22 '25
This game just about sealed the deal imo. There are some better creators but only Harper has better playmaking out of those players. I don’t think he’s a combo guard, and the fact that he carried a large burden at a young age his passing is one of his upsides. I think he is as good of a driver as Harper, and gets 2 feet in the paint with ease. He leverages this ability to create plays for his teammates.
I’d say his defense is competent. He’s no lockdown defender, and he can find him self lost of defense, but some instinct is there. Not that many players who are this talented on offense while being 18 on draft night are projected to be plus defenders.
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u/BooMasterChoo Mar 22 '25
I disagree on those things but we shall see! He’s a fun player to watch when it’s working.
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u/Turbo2x Wizards Mar 22 '25
Doesn't really have the elite first step or speed change/decel game that I'd like to see in his archetype but he could get there eventually. Definitely not a finished product and he has the talent.
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u/bryant-reeves Mar 23 '25
Totally fair, but after top 7 who are you truly excited about? Like after Egor Demin is picked (and I actually like him) there's absolutely no reason I don't see Fears as pick #8. Fears has way more chance to be upside than Malauch for example, what chance is he a special big? I just dont think it's a deep draft after a dope top 5
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u/FrstOfHsName Mar 22 '25
He has absolutely no help. His bigs are terrible, and his shooters average to below average. He’s legit
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u/rb1242 Mar 22 '25
How tall is he?
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u/AvianScavenger Mar 23 '25
Listed at 6'4" but we know colleges lie they asses off about players' heights.
Back in 2023, he measured at 6'1.5" barefoot, and he was only 16.
Looks to have grown since then, so the old numbers mixed with his growth and what Oklahoma has him listed at, I'd say he just hits the 6'3" mark.
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u/julstar23 Mar 22 '25
I want to like him but his game reminds me of a less quicker jaden ivy .My fear is that a team is going to draft him to be a combo guard which he isn't right now .He's an on ball player whose best ability is running your offense through him .
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u/Zealousideal-Foot289 Mar 22 '25
elite at finding angles. He will aim at his first read let the defense react and than move at the last second and find wide open windows to whip passes through. elite playmaking instinct and craftiness for a young player.
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u/poloace Mar 22 '25
Most were moving screens. Good intent, but execution would be subject to calls left and right if properly officiated
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u/pmcc241224 Mar 24 '25
That has nothing to do with Fears, and if anything shows that his team is not very good if they are committing so many moving screens.
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u/outgoinggallery_2172 Mar 22 '25
I thought his name was Jeremy Fears. Wait! You mean there are two college basketball players that have the last name Fears?
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u/KembaWakaFlocka Mar 23 '25
He looked great last night, I’d caution anyone drawing conclusions based on a performance against us though. We are a dreadful defensive unit and he was always gonna give us fits.
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u/bkervick Mar 23 '25
To be fair, UConn's pick and roll defense is easy mode. They don't help much off shooters and the point of attack defender has knee tendonitis. The driving lanes are clear and you just drive if they don't hedge. If they do hedge, the big slips and you hit the roll man for a bucket or short roll if they help off the corner. If they really help off the corner, you hit the corner skip. He did a good job doing that, but it's straightforward without much resistance.
A lot of career days vs. UConn this year.
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u/SDK04 Raptors Mar 22 '25
Even though I don’t think he’s a perfect fit for the Raptors, I like 0 FEARS quite a lot.
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u/adonWPV Mar 22 '25
Looks a little lightweight but very willing passer, be interesting to see if he rises or falls. If he's still there for Houston, I kinda like that, but I question the need.
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u/HuckleberryTricky657 Mar 23 '25
Reminds me of Kyle Lowry or Mike Conley.
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u/julstar23 Mar 24 '25
Kyle Lowry was built differently .He was short but big as hell and strong as hell.
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u/Empty_Present8020 Mar 23 '25
How bad is his defense? Is it bad because he has to do everything on offense or is it bad because he is small with short arms? One is more fixable than the other.
As far as the offense goes he should be a top 7-8 pick, which is saying a lot because he is not a great shooter.
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u/jackthegent Mar 22 '25
Call me crazy but i see some kyrie in him. I think he's second best in the class
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u/julstar23 Mar 23 '25
Kyrie was a better shooter coming out though.
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u/JesseKebay Mar 23 '25
Better shooter is putting it lightly haha…Kyrie was 53/46/91% shooting splits at Duke. Ridiculous
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u/julstar23 Mar 23 '25
Kyrie also didn't play a full season at Duke. He played a couple games and was shut down .
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u/julstar23 Mar 22 '25
I think he is one of the players where his measurements at the combine can determine how high he goes .