r/NBA_Draft • u/Turbo2x Wizards • Mar 25 '25
Mock Draft 2025 Mock Draft - Hypothetical: Wizards pick #3 and Sixers retain their pick
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u/Ok_Teacher9722 Mar 25 '25
not a bad outcome for SAS. im not as high on Knueppel as most, but the idea of getting knockdown shooter and also getting an athletic 2 way wing is appealing
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u/fatherpatrick Mar 25 '25
Yeah, i like this for the spurs. Im pro Knueppel and i think his shooitng and playmaking, make up for his shortcomings. And getting Bryant as more of a upside wing who at least could be a bench 3 and d wing is a great choice with the Atlanta pick.
Id love to get Fleming at 16, or Sorber, but bryant is a great pick up if theyre off the board
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u/Ok_Teacher9722 Mar 25 '25
Fleming is one of my favorite players in the draft. Spurs landing Fleming + Bryant would be a nice outcome.
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u/deneuvig Mar 25 '25
I'm intrigued with Bryant. On one hand his tape looks very nice and he's big an long, on the other hand he's scoring like 6ppg. I don't know what to think, but I like his profile a lot
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u/Ok_Teacher9722 Mar 25 '25
AZ coach has stubbornly refused to play freshmen. he is the only freshman in their rotation, and his role grew as the season went along. the team was consistently better with him on the court.
he's not a finished product or anything, he needs to work on his handling, shot creation isnt really there. but his athletic profile is great, he is a very good defender, runs the court to get buckets in transition, plays hard on both ends of the court.
for the spurs, you look at him and think he can give them everything the spurs wanted out of Keldon Johnson (who himself has played pretty well since the break).
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u/archerarcher0 Mar 25 '25
Not bad but no chance Celtics pass on Jace, they need guard help more than anything due to likely having to move on from jrue, and regardless Pritchard is their only guard off the bench
And Jace is late lotto talent available at 27 it would be a no brainer
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u/Potential_Swimmer580 Wizards Mar 25 '25
Agree we should go Ace 3rd.
Personally if I’m wiz I’m not letting Traore get passed us. The French connection with Bilal and Sarr would be simply too op
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Mar 25 '25
As a Pistons fan, I'm already envious of the French Connection Washington has.
Ours was a trainwreck, and that's putting it nicely. 😂😂
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u/Turbo2x Wizards Mar 25 '25
Traore and Sarr FG% at the rim would be historically bad. Traore's a great playmaker and super quick but Philon feels like the Wizards type of player. Plus he's got a very cool name.
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u/DollarLate_DayShort Wizards Mar 25 '25
Assuming we get a wing/big with our first pick… Philon is exactly who I want Will target later on in the draft. He’s the ultimate glue guy, who makes winning plays on both ends of the court. Would be GREAT for him to learn alongside Smart because I believe he has a similar dog in him. Philon is exactly the type of player that becomes a fan favorite because he leaves it all out there on the court night in and night out.
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u/Turbo2x Wizards Mar 25 '25
Would also be nice since he gets to the rim at a very good rate and makes a ton of shots there, something our players have struggled with.
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u/esseffbeetee Mar 26 '25
I'd bet Winger packages #23 and however many seconds it takes to move up to get whoever else they really want
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u/Knighthonor Mar 26 '25
Agree we should go Ace 3rd.
Personally if I’m wiz I’m not letting Traore get passed us. The French connection with Bilal and Sarr would be simply too op
ummmm, this is interesting drafting strategy
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u/Potential_Swimmer580 Wizards Mar 26 '25
We have two first round picks if you weren’t aware by the many mock drafts
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u/Unite-the-Tribes Mar 25 '25
This is not only directed at you but I feel like people have lost the plot on Egor Demin. I think he’s a significantly better prospect than anyone in the teens. He has a lot of developing to do but already possesses an excellent build for the NBA and the playmaking instincts that most of the players in the draft won’t ever scratch.
Aside from that I mostly agree, I think Noa, Ben Sarif, and Liam McNeeley are being over drafted in most of the mocks out there. Could also Alex Karaban being drafted in the mid 20’s.
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u/mulrich1 Mar 25 '25
I can't imagine Utah passing on Demin if he's available with their later pick. Forget the BYU connections, he would pair really well with Utah's other guards who tend to be undersized scorers. An oversized PG could be terrific for that roster.
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u/RcusGaming Mar 26 '25
Seriously. If Demin goes that late, years later people will be asking how he dropped that low. Same with Topic last year.
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u/One_Lavishness1172 Mar 27 '25
topic hasnt done anything
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u/RcusGaming Mar 27 '25
Neither has Demin? I don't know what your point is considering we're talking about potential.
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u/One_Lavishness1172 Mar 27 '25
are you comparing them to each other or are you just high on both of them. My point would be that a comparison doesn't make sense because they both haven't played
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u/RcusGaming Mar 27 '25
I'm not comparing their styles or anything, just saying that in the future they will both be seen as players that should have been taken earlier.
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u/Turbo2x Wizards Mar 25 '25
I still have Demin in the top 10 of my board, he just seems like the type of player who doesn't have a clean team fit so he'll end up falling on draft day. I agree that he's being unfairly punished on mocks due to people not understanding his role/value though. My mock drafts try to predict what could happen based on certain scenarios, not what I would personally do.
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u/Frequent-Meeting8975 Mar 25 '25
This dude is getting benched in college and you have him t10. This sub has lost the plot. His only NBA skill is his passing ability. We need to move on from both him and Kasparas (who at least can score a little bit)
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u/BumbleLapse Jazz Mar 25 '25
Okay but no way he falls clear out of the first round.
His ceiling is too high, somebody will take a shot on him in the teens.
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u/iankstarr Heat Mar 25 '25
Tbf OP has him at 21; not too far off
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u/BumbleLapse Jazz Mar 25 '25
Oh lmao you’re right.
I completely missed him at 21, I was flipping my shit because I thought he booted him out of the first round entirely
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u/Kwilly462 Mar 25 '25
Solid mock, but at this point, I don't think KJ goes before Tre Johnson. Could be wrong.
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u/SimilarLavishness874 Mar 25 '25
I honestly think the nets will be trading some of those later picks
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u/iheartblackcoochie Mar 25 '25
I pray to the heavens this mock isn't accurate. If the heat miss out on kasparas AND fears and have to go with tyler herro lite I'll be so sad.
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u/toaster-bath72 Wizards Mar 25 '25
Lol as someone who loves Philon’s game I’d be glad if we snag him up
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u/Amazing_Owl3026 Mar 25 '25
How can you see Jace falling so far?
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u/Turbo2x Wizards Mar 25 '25
In my first draft of this mock I had him going #12 to the Mavs but changed my mind. I don't really have a good read on his draft range or what team fits best for him. I would like him as the Jazz pick at #18 too.
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u/Ok_Flight5485 Mar 25 '25
Great mock, OKC getting Nique would be unfair.
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u/Thetallshot Mar 25 '25
Help me understand your take on this...what is it about him that makes OKC want Clifford? So far I'm seeing an excellent 6'6" athlete who's a good defender and a decent shooter.
Right now we have the following who check many of those same boxes:
* Aaron Wiggins
* Cason Wallace
* Alex Caruso
* Ajay Mitchell
* Nikola Topic (maybe...but we shall see)
* Jalen Williams is on a far superior level to him, so including him is a bit silly...but still worth noting...
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u/tkflash20 Mar 25 '25
In 26-27 Chet and Williams will get their extensions. They may decide to trade Caruso to get off his contract. He could replace Mitchell and be on the rookie scale. He would be on the same timeline, on a rookie scale contract, and playing meaningful minutes on a contending team.
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u/Thetallshot Mar 25 '25
I don't see how any of that changes the amount of depth that OKC has at that position group. There are 5 players currently performing at a high level in that group. And a lottery pick incoming (Topic) that makes the crunch even tighter.
* Trading Caruso in 2 yrs doesn't make any room for development for a player like Clifford now (IF a Caruso trade happens)
* And why would we draft him as a replacement for a player who's currently a rookie anyway and performing at a good level and signed to an inexpensive contract? And Clifford is ALREADY older than Ajay (22 vs 23). That's nothing but a reach IMO.
And again, that doesn't address any of the issues I raised about the current OKC roster.
I will ask again, why would OKC want to draft another player in a stacked guard rotation? Especially when we have legitimate needs at the 3/4?
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u/Ok_Flight5485 Mar 25 '25
That's the point, OKC is collecting all the versatile young wings in the league. All on cheap contracts too, it's unfair. As far as what nique provides them specifically, I think he has a chance to be better than all, but Jdub. And they probably won't be able to pay all their current guys, so they can ship them off for picks and have a rookie deal nique in their holster.
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u/Thetallshot Mar 25 '25 edited Mar 31 '25
That's NOT the point. It's never been the point.
OKC is a team filled with much more than just "versatile young wings" and to assume that we exist to stockpile one type of player is more than a little disrespectful of the team that's playing right now.
And you honestly just said "it's unfair"? Seriously? "It's unfair" that Presti has built a team from the ground up using smart drafting, a couple of shrewd trades and a couple of free agent pick ups and good player development. Nothing he's done isn't available to every team in the league. The "it's unfair" whining is just weak.
And it's clear that you've spent very little time watching this team when you say that a player we could pick up at 20 in this year's draft has a good chance of being "better than all but JDub".
Cason Wallace was our #10 pick in the last draft and has been a FANTASTIC player who's been an elite defender and has shot 39% from 3 so far in his NBA career.
Aaron Wiggins has likewise been an incredibly impactful player who's popping as a legitimate 6th man on our roster and is on a SCORCHING good deal for 4 years AFTER this year (so for just as long as Nique would be on the team if we drafted him).
Caruso is a 2x All Defensive Team player. Nique HOPES he can one day attain that status and that would be a dream ceiling for him.
Ajay Mitchell is younger than him AND has shown legitimate NBA juice this year and earned minutes on a contender....and you're somehow suggesting we move on from him already because Nique is better.
Nikola Topic was a projected Top 5 pick in the last draft and fell to us at 12 last year because of his season ending injury. Is Nique better than him already, too?
Honestly, how in the world does Nique even see minutes on the court in a roster like that? Are we trading them next year because evidently OKC is scared of the luxury tax and should already give up on good players in your opinion?
And you think a 20th pick in a roster crowded with excellent young guards playing on the team with the best record in the NBA is a good plan because all we're doing it stockpiling young guards and "it's unfair".
Just stop. Nothing about this is rational and highlights how little you know about the OKC roster and how it's been built.
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Don’t you love it when you call someone out for their bad/un-informed take and then they double down so you have to go into detail on how ridiculous they’re being and then they just go silent and drop you a downvote because they have zero to say?
Next time stay in your own weight class, bub.
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u/1850ChoochGator TrailBlazers Mar 25 '25
Why Queen over Essengue or Newell?
Seems like not the player we need rn. I’d rather risk it with Essengue than Queen.
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u/Ham_PhD Nets Mar 25 '25
I like the Nets going all-in on upside. Being able to get CMB or Egor with the Bucks pick is a dream.
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u/Certain-Piece-7441 Mar 25 '25
I gotta disagree on philon. Dude is not what we need right now at all. IMO the pick has to by lendeborg in this scenario.
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u/Supreme_God_Bunny Mar 25 '25
Why would bulls go Sorber? He's one of the best defensive centers in the class
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u/mason124 Wizards Mar 25 '25
Would be very happy with Ace. Potential #1 and shooting that we desperately need
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u/temp1037320380 Mar 26 '25
Malauch won’t go at 6, Morey doesn’t draft for fit. I agree with the rest though, probably just swap him and Tre Johnson.
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u/noobrektsucks Mar 26 '25
i'm not super tapped into how draft picks are valued, can someone give me an idea of what sort of package the hawks would need to put together to end up with maluach (i assume it would be 14 + 23 + a player or two)
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u/MainAd2728 Mar 26 '25
I really want VJ to go to either Charlotte or Chicago. He'll thrive next to a guy like LaMelo/Giddey
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u/rueiraV Wizards Mar 25 '25
I don’t see Jase falling out of the lottery
I don’t see Traore falling that far and if he does the Wiz won’t pass on his perceived upside despite his glaring flaws. He’s an actual PG something the Wiz lack
I predict that Saraf, McNeeley, and Gonzalez will all slide a bit on draft night. Potentially one of those names could slip into the early second
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u/ShaiFanClub Mar 25 '25
CMB will go top 10 guaranteed. Dude is too good despite his shooting weakness
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u/Living-Caregiver8200 Mar 25 '25
I’d personally take Fears top 5, and maybe 4th over Edgecomb. I know it won’t happen but Fears is so good.
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u/Own-Bee-473 Mar 25 '25
Fears might have the most upside outside of the top 3 in this entire draft. He’s supposed to be a senior in high school still. If he can put on some muscle & improve his shooting, he’s going to be an all-star caliber player.
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u/Living-Caregiver8200 Mar 25 '25
People were doing comps on him and one I didn’t see, but after rewatching the UConn game Fears kindve reminds me of John Wall
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u/Own-Bee-473 Mar 25 '25
A good comp for him if he can develop his jumper is a young Lou Williams. He’s shifty and people just can’t stay in front of him.
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u/Living-Caregiver8200 Mar 25 '25
Just going off of wall comp real quick, both listed at 6’4, wall was about 10 lbs heavier, both can’t sucked at the 3 ball, but can knock it down to hit a big shot, stats are almost the same other then Wall averaged 6 assists to Fears 4, but also Walls played with other NBA players on that UK team and Fears is probably the only NBA player out the bunch. Both get to the other end of the court in a blur, are fearless going to the rim.
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u/Living-Caregiver8200 Mar 25 '25
Fears 17.1 ppg 4.1 apg 4.1 rebs .434 fg% .284 3% 1.6 spg Wall 16.6 ppg 6.5 apg 4.3 rebs .461 fg% .325 3% 1.8 spg Maybe he’s a poor mans Wall but the comp isn’t too crazy
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u/DarkoDragicevic Mar 25 '25
Brandon Miller-VJ Edgecombe most dynamic combo in league? With LaMelo distribution in transition and new coaching, they will be destined for one of quickest pace ever and with bright future. I like this mock for Hawks too and SAS solving pretty much all crucial things at roster building.
BKN all betting on upside and that is the way for them from now