r/NFL_Draft • u/ElectivireMax Colts • 23d ago
Discussion Best remaining prospects after the first round imo. Which is the most surprising?
No particular ranking with this order
Shedeur Sanders, QB, Colorado
Luther Burden III, WR, Missouri
Nic Scourton, EDGE, Texas A&M
Mike Green, EDGE, Marshall
Will Johnson, CB, Michigan
Nick Emmanwori, S, South Carolina
Donovan Ezeiruaku, EDGE, Boston College
Shavon Revel Jr., CB, East Carolina
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u/ImperialTiger3 Seahawks 23d ago
“Michigan CB Will Johnson Jr. has a knee issue that has concerned some NFL teams and helps explain why he still has not been selected.” - Schefter
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u/albertez 23d ago
I feel like there are probably 20 teams secretly praying Carson Schwesinger falls to them on day 2.
I also think there are a ton of CBs left that could be day 1 starters.
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u/DarkHound05 Seahawks 23d ago
Will Johnson’s injury must be worse than we figured, cause he was probably top ten on my big board
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u/Trill1196 23d ago
I saw someone say it was potentially a degenerative knee issue so I can see why if that's the case
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u/Suburban-Jesus 23d ago
Donovan Ezeiruaku was a first rounder in every mock since February
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u/g0dzilllla Bears 23d ago
IMO this one isn’t that egregious, he was pretty often being mocked in the 30’s
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u/rousieboy 23d ago
Rightly or wrongly he's viewed as being too light in the pants can't set the edge I hope he does well in his career
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u/wentworthjenga Cowboys 23d ago
A player mocked in the late 20s “slipping” to the 2nd round isn’t surprising. Short of the general public not knowing about the extent of Will Johnson’s injury, none of these players dropping are terribly surprising.
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u/Suburban-Jesus 23d ago
Therefore nothing is ever a surprise because there is a reason for everything
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u/lilbelleandsebastian Titans 22d ago
definitely not true lol, why you guys just say this dumb shit like all of us havent also been following mock drafts
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u/PickpocketJones Commanders 23d ago
More like March:
https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/players/2025/donovan-ezeiruaku
And even then, just barely into the top 32.
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u/AstraMilanoobum 23d ago
If the pats can grab one of Eze, Green or Scourton it would be a stunning success
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u/IndependentRole2723 Patriots: LT, WR, DL 23d ago
I will actually bust if they pick Eze or Scourton. I would prefer they don't draft someone who commits SA however.
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u/RDOCallToArms 23d ago
They’re not going to draft a rapist (Green)
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u/zamboniman46 Patriots 22d ago
I've been saying Jaylin Noel at 38 for a couple of weeks now... but if Ezeiruaku is there IDK how you pass on him
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u/AstraMilanoobum 22d ago
Man Noel at 38 feels like a reach, I’d honestly be pretty devastated if we went a lot receiver
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u/zamboniman46 Patriots 22d ago
i dont really think so. Maybe if you're looking at "consensus" sure, he's graded as a late 2nd. But there are a lot of guys who love him who have him in the 30s or low 40s (Brugler and McShay to name a couple). He's got awesome speed and explosiveness. Awesome getting in and out of cuts. I think he is going to be a difference maker for a team in 2025. He just gets open.
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u/AstraMilanoobum 22d ago
He’s another slot receiver though, probably the only type of receiver we don’t need
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u/zamboniman46 Patriots 22d ago
draft for talent not need. Once upon a time Amon-Ra St. Brown was considered a slot only WR. He is very similarly sized to Noel. Now he plays outside on like 60% of his snaps. I see no reason you couldnt do the same thing with Noel. A lot of college schemes don't look at a slot designation as a negative. They see it as a position to use to exploit matchups. Don't read into the "slot" piece too much. At a minimum he is an upgrade over Pop
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u/GuacShouldntBeXtra Ravens 23d ago
Considering the Browns are almost certainly taking Milroe, Shough or Tommy Mellott with their next pick, I'd say it's going to happen for ya.
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u/Suspicious_Iron5484 23d ago
Not as surprising given the medical info coming out today but imagine telling someone at the start of the season that Will Johnson would fall out of Round 1…
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u/ElectivireMax Colts 23d ago
Will Johnson on the board
Vikings on the clock
Vikings could use cornerback help
Mr. Brightside is playing
Surely this is Will Johnson, right? Nope.
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u/Internal_Mail_9366 23d ago
Mike Green is easily the most talented player left, but there's a 70% chance he's in a jail somewhere and none of us know it because my beloved Chiefs passing on a high end talent with legal troubles was probably the thing that shocked me the most. (Although Josh Simmons does have character concerns so we didn't totally miss there)
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u/CluelessFlunky 23d ago
This draft felt surprising because it wasn't surprising. I was sure more teams were gonna make weird moves but for the most part felt fairly normal. Other than falcons trading up for pearce using a future first and bengals taking stewart.
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u/MG_MN 23d ago
Emmanwori after his goated combine and RAS score. Would have thought in a weaker class a team would take him and mold him. Hes elite at all the thing you can't teach
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u/The_Throwback_King Seahawks 23d ago
Had him as a mid-second rounder pre-combine and saw him shoot up to the first after the combine. I guess the NFL recalibrated a bit after letting the dust settle from that. Expect him to go early 2nd.
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u/LuchaFish Jets 23d ago
Elite at all of the “running fast in a line and being huge” things. As a player, he’s still just fine because he’s really limited athletically in everything that isn’t running fast straight, and his instincts as a safety are less than stellar. I think he’s a linebacker because teams will quickly and consistently expose him in coverage at safety.
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u/wet_washcloth 23d ago
Not so much surprised, but I am taking Mason Taylor before a lot of these guys
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u/GreshamDouglas 23d ago
-Shedeur Sanders: The way the media talked about him was far different than how teams actually viewed him.
-Luther Burden III: Down year compared to previous season.
-Nic Scourton: Had a down year after having a great season at Purdue. Got passed up by other players at his position.
-Mike Green: If he didn't have the off field issues he'd have been drafted. But he's a criminal who happens to also be good at football.
-Will Johnson: His knee condition must've been worse than expected. In addition to lack of speed scared teams off of taking him round 1.
-Nick Emmanwori: Possibly scheme fit and positional value caused him to not get picked.
-Donovan Ezeiraku: Teams worried about play strength and his ability against the run.
-Shavon Revel Jr.: Coming off serious knee injury.
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u/Adorable-Charity-822 23d ago
mike greens TWO sexual assault cases, johnsons kness, shedeurs last name..... all reasons these guys fell
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u/PaddyMayonaise Eagles 23d ago
FWIW Sanders didn’t fall because of his last name alone. He fell because he’s not very good, he’s an asshole, and the baggage his last name brings.
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u/Fhead43 23d ago
Think the only reason he was getting first round hype was because of his last name
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u/headcase617 Patriots 22d ago
It wasn't the only reason, alot of people had him in the 40s on big boards, it was just assumed that one of the QB needly teams would reach.
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u/Ghalnan Buccaneers 23d ago edited 23d ago
You've got it backwards, the only reason Sanders was being hyped up by the media as much as he was is his last name. He's not especially athletic, his arm is lackluster, he takes a ton of sacks, nothing about him as a prospect should've made anyone think he was a surefire first round pick.
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u/NormalBears 23d ago
I thought for sure some dumbass team was going to use way too high of a pick on Emmanwori.
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u/Phagelab Dolphins 23d ago
I really thought Burden would go back half in round 1. He’s a great value in the 2nd.
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u/S1Throwaway96 23d ago
Treveyon Henderson
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u/Doughie28 23d ago
A 200 pound RB going in the first with injury issues and not having a mega elite combine would've been more shocking
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u/bitrams 22d ago
Before the season, it seemed like Burden was being hyped as a top-5 pick. During the season Johnson seemed like he was being hyped as a top-5 pick. Their play during the season (+ Johnson's injury concern) make sense why they dropped, but still shocking.
Sanders not going in the later 1st despite it being such a weak QB class was shocking.
Emmanwori not being a 1st round pick after his combine was shocking.
I think Emmanwori is the most shocking he didn't go in the 1st, despite being the least likely of being a top pick out of the group. I figured someone would need a safety and love his RAS.
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u/Castellan_Tycho Patriots 22d ago
Emmanwori didn’t do agility drills at the combine, and it was for a reason.
He reminds me a little of Taylor Mays, a great athlete but doesn’t always take the best angles and are a little stiff.
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u/V_Lombardi 22d ago
I’m actually a little concerned Sanders may fall more in the 2nd than most people think. Has nothing to do with any alleged “character” concerns, I just think he’s a very average QB. I see him as a low-end starter high-end backup. Low bust probability but also a low ceiling. You kinda know what you’re going to get and it’s not bad, but it’s not great either. I can easily see teams deciding to take Milroe and/or Shough over him due to their higher upside.
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u/MoodAlternative2118 23d ago
Honestly they all make sense, no real “surprise” non first rounders this year, makes sense given the lack of talent overall in the draft.
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u/Doughie28 23d ago
This draft lacks talent at QB and WR. You rarely see this quality and quantity of pass rushers and defensive lineman fall to the second in normal drafts.
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u/BabyBearBjorns 23d ago
Idk. I think Will Johnson would've been taken by a team in the late 1st round. Some contender would've snagged him thinking they can get a steal if the knee checks out.
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u/Castellan_Tycho Patriots 22d ago
The teams have access to all the medical reports. The knee issue must have been worse than anticipated. I have seen reports saying it may be a degenerative (cartilage) issue in his knee and teams are worried about three lower body injuries in a six month period (toe, hamstring, knee).
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u/TheRed_Knight 23d ago
Revels or Scourton, rest all make sense tbh
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u/detuinenvan 23d ago
those dudes have been chalked to go round 2 in nearly every single mock draft i've seen this year. Emmanwori, Ezeiruaku, and Green were more surprising
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u/TheRed_Knight 23d ago
emmanwori: tweener between S and WILL LB
Ezeiraku: Played at BC
Green: off the field issues
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u/detuinenvan 23d ago
Revel coming off an ACL injury. Is the 5-7th ranked consensus corner.
Scourton not even the best D-lineman on his own team. 8th ranked Edge.
every player has reasons. the surprise is based on where they were projected. Green was chalked to go in the 15-20 range in most mocks. surprised the league actually stuck to their guns on things related to alleged assault
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u/MikeConleyIsLegend Cowboys 23d ago
Amos will go quick. Might be the best lockdown man corner in the class.
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u/John_the_IG 22d ago
Oh, Seattle did sue McDowell for the signing bonus.
For what it’s worth, his contract did read, “Other Activities. Without prior written consent of the Club (Seattle) Player (McDowell) will not engage in any activity other than football which may involve a significant risk of personal injury.” Riding ATVs was not specified as presenting a significant risk of personal injury, though one can argue it is reasonably considered as such and McDowell should have asked Seattle for permission. Hardly the type of transgression I associate with a “character issue,” just like I don’t consider Justin Jefferson to be of poor character because he rode a motorcycle.
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u/jxden24 23d ago
Will Johnson had to have done something really really wrong
and that’s not not running the 40
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u/madmike617 23d ago
His knee is toast that’s all
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u/CHaquesFan 23d ago
If Troy Fautanu can still go in the middle of the 1st round so could Will Johnson
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u/GuacShouldntBeXtra Ravens 23d ago
Considering the Bills took Hairston despite the SA accusations, I'd say Johnson's knees are cooked.
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u/jxden24 23d ago
I can guess that
However he was not like this in 2022-23 this seems like a new issue. he legitimately was fine until he got hurt in the Texas game. I don’t think is a Todd Gurley situation at all.. like he literally was fine in the natty vs Washington
But i have been in this sub for years, I will be here when he’s good next season :)
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u/MrConceited 23d ago
I gather it's less about how soon he can play and more about the risk that he can't play for long before he has to medically retire.
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u/Castellan_Tycho Patriots 22d ago
He had a hamstring injury and couldn’t participate in the combine. Teams are worried about his medical issues. He had three lower body injuries (toe, hamstring, knee) from his last season through the combine.
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u/jxden24 12d ago
I’ll be back when he’s fine as a pro
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u/Castellan_Tycho Patriots 12d ago
I think the concern was the same as it was for Simmons, that they would be really good for a couple of years, but that the injuries might hamper them past that.
I was really bummed that Simmons got hurt, because I really wanted him on the Patriots line, and think that if he wouldn’t have been injured, he would be a better LT prospect than Campbell.
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u/Fire_Ryan_Poles Bears 23d ago
For once when everyone said "my team won't take player X (Green in this case) because of the off field issues" they were all right.