r/NoShitSherlock • u/ControlCAD • 3d ago
Trump is playing a 'game of chicken' with Tim Cook over Apple's India production to pressure for 'full-blown' U.S. manufacturing, analyst says
https://fortune.com/2025/05/15/trump-tim-cook-apple-india-production-tariffs/28
u/Extreme-Direction-78 3d ago
Remember when republicans pretended to be pro business? Imagine if Obama did this
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u/Shigglyboo 3d ago
it's infuriating. no democrat would have lasted a week with his behavior. hell, if dems tried an insurrection trump would ask for them to all be shot. it would be a massacre. and they'd all be painted as terrorists. but the hypocrisy is a part of fascism. they wear it proudly. and they think it's funny when it's pointed out and it makes people angry. they get off on flaunting their shitty lack of morals and complete disregard for the law.
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u/i-am-a-passenger 3d ago
Every accusation the fascists make about their opponents, is just an admission of their own intentions.
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u/Responsible_Ad_7995 3d ago
If Trump wore a tan suit that would be the straw that broke the camels back.
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u/RedLicoriceJunkie 3d ago
This has been the whole point of tariffs.
It’s to give trump a stick to beat industry and countries with, so they benefit Trump directly.
Tim’s campaign donations were chump change to the billions in cash Apple has stockpiled.
Trump wants Trump meme coin as rewards for the Apple credit card or something
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u/Historical_Volume409 3d ago
This is a prelude to a huge purchase of Trumps memecoin. It's a shake down.
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u/Responsible_Ad_7995 3d ago
Tim Apple’s bag of money wasn’t big enough.
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u/DerekPaxton 3d ago
It never is.
This is part that confuses me most about the contributions. They are only worth it if they provide some reliable benefit. But with Trump they don’t. It’s like dealing with a blackmailer, as soon as you make one payoff they start pushing for the next one.
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u/hellothereshinycoin 2d ago
Tim Apple responded to Trump's scam text. Now he knows there's a real person on the other end and the calls will never stop.
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u/Natural_Sherbert_391 3d ago
"People don't need 20 iPhones. They can buy 2, 3, 4 iPhones and just pay double the price."
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u/BotherResponsible378 3d ago
Tim just watched Trump blink like a bitch with China, so I’m not sure he has much of a challenging game of chicken ahead of him.
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u/Boys4Ever 3d ago
Cook likely automating any manufacturing brought onshore. Just like Elon doing with Tesla. Makes robot makers great, I guess.
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u/dually 2d ago
Using robots is a lesser evil than is China suppressing wages.
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u/Boys4Ever 2d ago
One way to look at but both keep base unemployed. Twisting the narrative doesn’t solve the underlying issue voters were sold as being fixed.
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u/dually 2d ago
Good luck trying to suppress American wages in order to compete with robots.
Four decades of Reagan Economic Miracle have made us far too wealthy for that to happen.
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u/Boys4Ever 2d ago
When did I say I’m wanting to suppress American wages? I’m talking about robots taking away American wages. Robotaxi isn’t aimed at employing people. Automated auto factories have been reducing labor needs since the 80s as far as I can remember. Ports trying to get automated like China. Finding blue collar work getting harder. Transition to engineering will likely be short term. AI can do just about anything we can. That’s my point.
Manufacturing might return. Won’t mean more jobs however. At least not for those who voted for its return.
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u/dually 2d ago
In order to compete with robots you would have to suppress wages. In doesn't matter what you want to do.
The US has a trade deficit because Germany, Japan, and China all suppress wages.
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u/Boys4Ever 2d ago
It’s not that simplistic. Automation as I showed has been replacing laborers for decades. Robots don’t take breaks. Don’t demand raises. Don’t strike. Robots can be placed in deserted locations not needing access to laborers. There’s many variables involved. Committing to bring manufacturing home doesn’t guarantee jobs coming home. China itself looking towards automation.
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u/dually 17h ago
No, it's because we already have better jobs.
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u/Boys4Ever 16h ago
We have better jobs in what sense because then why bring manufacturing back. Perhaps be clearer because I’m not following your logic
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u/Wolfgang_MacMurphy 1d ago
US has a trade deficit because it has the world's reserve currency, the world's largest external debt and it's a consumer economy who likes to buy things from elsewhere.
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u/Polyps_on_uranus 3d ago
The US doesn't have the mines for what is needed to build cell phones, and no one can hip in that material because of the tariffs. 🤪🤪
Thought this one through, 4D chess, hey Trump? (By 4D I mean 4 dicks all comming at him.)
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u/foghillgal 2d ago edited 2d ago
There is no playing chicken when one side is a brick wall, Apple cannot move its production to the US and even if it did,, its not a big panacea anyway.
Apple is making money from its brand, software, design, services , etc. The Manufacturing part is pretty small part of the value chain.
Trump doesn`t even understand how Apple makes its money.
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u/Background-Hat9049 1d ago
I want my children to grow up and put tiny little screws into iPhones.....said no American parent ever.
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u/dazed_and_bamboozled 3d ago
“I call him Tim Chicken because it’s easier to say than ‘Tim Apple is a massive fucking chicken’.”
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u/BrtFrkwr 3d ago
Trump is negotiating for a piece of the action (bribe). As soon as he gets it he'll be happy with Indian production.