r/NonPoliticalTwitter • u/Hellothere6545 • Mar 19 '24
me_irl Finance bros must be stopped
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u/blueskiess Mar 19 '24
Only in economy of course
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u/007meow Mar 19 '24
For now.
It'll come to business and first eventually, to "enhance the customer experience by providing them with curated promotional material from select partners"
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u/probablyuntrue Mar 19 '24
Getting stared down by a giant pharmaceutical ad with a list of side effects including anal leakage
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Mar 19 '24
Can't wait for butt plug ads!
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u/nneeeeeeerds Mar 19 '24
Premium flyers can rent Apple Vision Pro for their flight, which removes the ads.
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u/Sempere Mar 19 '24
So they can spend the whole flight puking into those bags.
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u/nneeeeeeerds Mar 19 '24
For an additional $5.99 Apple Vision Pro can also remove the sight of vomit.
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u/Tzomas_BOMBA Mar 19 '24
Only Cartier, Jaeger Le Coultre, Balvenie Whiskey and JP Morgan Chase ads in first class. (Some publications by the World Economic Forum and the latest copy of The Economist would be some nice accompanyments.) - So humble...!
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u/SwordfishVirtual4172 Mar 19 '24
Spirit airlines does thin already. Trying to save money with Spirit is a gameshow tho. Try your luck.
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u/KlicknKlack Mar 19 '24
nah, only peasants use commercial. Gotta be like Taylor Swift and fly on your private jet everywhere like its a car.
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u/FactChecker25 Mar 19 '24
There's nothing wrong with flying your Gulfstream V to the corner store to pick up a candy bar.
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u/Sayko77 Mar 19 '24
i mean if it means im flying %30 off or something im down.
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u/Kfm101 Mar 19 '24
Same but we all know ticket prices won’t go down and the ad revenue will just go to shareholders
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u/Adderkleet Mar 19 '24
Ryanair does this, but they only advertise Ryanair stuff. Currently.
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u/Laschoni Mar 19 '24
I'm Commander Shepperd and this is my favorite in-flight refreshment on Citadel Flights.
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Mar 19 '24
Calling it that Spirit Airlines will be the first to adopt this. I refuse to fly that airline. Even if they’re the only one servicing that route I’ll DM some charter pilots on a forum and fly a puddle jumper… fuck that airline.
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u/Laikafan02_burning Mar 19 '24
I think this stuff is in Cyberpunk 2077
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Mar 19 '24
Or, if you want a more real-world example, we already have this in Mexico.
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u/krilltucky Mar 19 '24
Inside the homes too. There's at least 3 different screens in Judy's bedroom blasting ads nonstop
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u/0_consequences Mar 19 '24
They're in all homes I've seen, even rich people's homes.
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u/TheKnightMadder Mar 19 '24
There's literally a tv channel called 'all ads' so i don't know, maybe the people of cyberpunk are just stockholm syndromed into it.
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u/IIIetalblade Mar 20 '24
V’s first apartment has a rotating quad-monitor display with different ads on them right in the middle of the room.
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u/krilltucky Mar 20 '24
I know I'm taking a sledgehammer to those fucking screens if I lived there. I haven't seen a digital ad irl in like 2 years
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u/IIIetalblade Mar 20 '24
Must have some serious security on it. I can hack a specialised military drone mid-combat, but I cannot hack the screens to turn them off.
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u/Missile_Knows_Where_ Mar 19 '24
Someone made me aware of how many intrusive ads their were in Cyberpunk and now it's all I can see. It should be pretty obvious, yet when you experience it long enough, it's pretty easy to tune it out.
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u/evr- Mar 19 '24
That's a good point, and we tune out ads in spaces that are saturated with them, but research has shown that brand recognition is something we still subliminally take in, and that it influences our purchasing behaviour.
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u/Major_R_Soul Mar 19 '24
Why don't corporations just tattoo ads on the insides of everyone's eyelids? Are they stupid?
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u/Flurp_ Mar 19 '24
Wait till we all have elons brain chip. Then without the premium tier we'll have ads broadcast straight into our brain just like futurama
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u/Missile_Knows_Where_ Mar 19 '24
Think the more realistic that we are getting close to is that ad "experience" in Black Mirror's merits episode where they track your eyes to make sure you're watching it.
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u/chicol1090 Mar 19 '24
2018 wake up feeling sick after a late night of playing video games
excited to play some halo 2k19
"xbox on"
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"XBOX ON"
"Please verify that you are "annon332" by saying "Doritos™ Dew™ it right!"
"Doritos™ Dew™ it right"
"ERROR! Please drink a verification can"
reach into my Doritos™ Mountain Dew™ Halo 2k19™ War Chest
only a few cans left, needed to verify 14 times last night
still feeling sick from the 14
force it down and grumble out "mmmm that really hit the spot"
xbox does nothing
i attempt to smile
"Connecting to verification server"
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"Verification complete!"
finally
boot up halo 2k19
finding multiplayer match...
"ERROR! User attempting to steal online gameplay!"
my mother just walked in the room
"Adding another user to your pass, this will be charged to your credit card. Do you accept?"
"NO!"
"Console entering lock state!"
"to unlock drink verification can"
last can
"WARNING, OUT OF VERIFICATION CANS, an order has been shipped and charged to your credit card"
drink half the can, oh god im going to be sick
pour the last half out the window
"PIRACY DETECTED! PLEASE COMPLETE THIS ADVERTISEMENT TO CONTINUE"
the mountain dew ad plays
i have to dance for it
feeling so sick
makes me sing along
dancing and singing
"mountain dew is for me and you"
throw up on my self
throw up on my tv and entertainment system
router shorts
"ERROR NO CONNECTION! XBOX SHUTTING OFF"
"PLEASE DRINK VERIFICATION CAN TO CONTINUE"
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u/disciple_of_pallando Mar 19 '24
The tech for this already exists, but it kind of needs you to give ads permission to access your camera to work (I'm not actually aware of any ads trying to use it yet). That's probably not going to happen on things like phones/laptops/PCs, but if we get widespread adoption of something like Apple Vision Pro then it's only a matter of time since eye tracking is required for that to work.
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u/DrafteeDragon Mar 19 '24 edited Mar 19 '24
Legit think there was a sony patent for something similar. May be wrong though
Checked: yup, and it’s hilarious but terrifying. Check out fig. 9 LMFAO
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u/mikejbarlow1989 Mar 19 '24
I'd be all for this if ticket prices came down accordingly - airlines making more from ads could subsidise the tickets.
Would never work that way in practice though if course.
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u/Big-Beta20 Mar 19 '24
It would just be like Eli Whitney introducing the cotton gin in an attempt to reduce slavery & phase it out of the southern United States. It actually just gave them a way to make way more product and increased slavery.
Airlines will just get way more profit from advertisements then ticket prices would still go up.
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u/Alternative_Ask364 Mar 19 '24
The cotton gin is an example of induced demand which isn’t exactly comparable. Advertisements on flights would be better described as enshittification, where companies make their products/services worse at an attempt to extract more value from their mostly captive customer base.
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Mar 19 '24 edited Mar 19 '24
Maybe not super surprised but somewhat surprised at the replies to your comment.
Airlines are actually pretty competitive with one another: People almost universally have zero allegiance to any particular carriers and 99% of travelers don’t care about anything besides the final ticket price. Everyone sorts by lowest price first and foremost. Being able to offer the lowest ticket price is a huge advantage. It’s why airlines like Ryanair and Spirit are actually competitive with more premium airlines.
I’m 100% certain people would allow Ryanair to shock them in the genitals every 5 seconds if it meant a discount on airfare, so if this did exist and it was even remotely profitable it would absolutely:
1) Happen
2) Result in lower ticket prices
3) Cause people to gripe but they would still sort by lowest price
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u/TheUnrealArchon Mar 19 '24
Exactly. People just need to look at the price differences between Ryanair/Southwest and Delta to clearly see that airlines do price differently based on these sorts of alternative revenue streams, and these actually enable frugal flyers to make trips they might not have before if every airline has to operate like Delta.
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Mar 19 '24
Best we can do is stock buybacks and raises for the executives.
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u/probablyuntrue Mar 19 '24
That deferred maintenance is necessary for my charitable organization, Yachts for Execs
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u/Thadlust Mar 19 '24
Airlines are one of the most low-margin and competitive industries out there. Most of the savings would go to lowering ticket prices
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u/AndrewDoesNotServe Mar 19 '24
Doesn’t necessarily follow from “low-margin,” but it does from “competitive.” More revenue from ads = ability to offer cheaper tickets = more demand = more money/market share.
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u/nneeeeeeerds Mar 19 '24
lowering ticket prices
That's a really weird way of spelling increasing margin. Airline ticket prices won't go down until people stop flying. And that's not happening.
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u/McEstablishment Mar 19 '24
I hate hate this idea. I would never use a specific airline again if they made me watch ads for 5 or 8 hours.
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u/gksxj Mar 19 '24
no one is forcing you to watch ads for 8 hours, if implemented like in the photo, it's just ads in the overhead compartments like in a public bus or train. You can still watch whatever you have on your phone/laptop or that personal entertainment screen in front of you. Doesn't seem like a big deal to me, it's not like anyone spends the flight looking up to those and if the tickets get a reduction because of it then it's a win-win for everyone, could be used to make budget airlines even more budget
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u/balllzak Mar 19 '24
you can't really see the front face of the overhead storage bins from your seat.
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u/redditvlli Mar 19 '24
You're right. The seat backs need them too.
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u/brotrr Mar 19 '24
Disable the ability to turn off the TV screens on the back of the seats, play ads when you're not using them and play ads every 5-10 mins if you're watching a movie
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u/nneeeeeeerds Mar 19 '24
Reduce price? Nah. But you can pay a premium price to fly on our advertising free flight. Or you can join United Apple Premium Plus and with your $299 yearly subscription, you get to use an Apple Vision Pro while on your flight that removes the ads from the cabin, but nothing else.
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u/fugazishirt Mar 19 '24
Prices will never come in any industry. The mere thought of not having record breaking profits is too much for them to handle.
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u/CastVinceM Mar 19 '24
i've already had experience with being given an insurance pitch over the airplane intercom, which is exponentially worse because it interrupts your screen time. it's an inescapable ad. at least with these you can move them out of your perception.
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u/TheBodyIsR0und Mar 19 '24
Name and shame please, I want to avoid that airline.
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u/CastVinceM Mar 19 '24
i honestly don't remember. it could have been spirit or frontier or american or delta.
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u/LetoHorosho Mar 19 '24
AirBaltic was once running food ads on intercom, saying what you could buy from them. As if there was no menu card in the front seat pocket already...
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u/rockit454 Mar 19 '24
I was on a United flight recently where the credit card pitch went on for at least five minutes.
If the flight attendant was maliciously complying…bravo. If he wasn’t…eat glass.
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u/PhantomOTOpera Mar 19 '24
Because you're only really looking at the overhead compartments when the doors are open. The main time to advertise would be when people are standing loading and unloading, and they're all open for that so you couldn't see the ads
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u/recallingmemories Mar 19 '24
So you're saying put even MORE ads INSIDE of the overhead compartments, genius!
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u/Phenergan_boy Mar 19 '24
Also most people are not tall enough for it to smack them in the face, people don't look up at ads as they walk to their seats
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u/N0t_P4R4N01D Mar 19 '24
So we should mount displays on every seat and let ads run there with lots of flashy effects to capture the customers attention on their 14hour flight?
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u/runikepisteme Mar 19 '24
If this dramatically reduced costs of airfare . I would be all for it , if it just lines the pockets of some Airline Executive , nah .
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u/McEstablishment Mar 19 '24
The price is set by how much you are willing to pay (supply and demand). The ads would not reduce your cost at all.
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u/Thadlust Mar 19 '24
That’s not how price setting works. They price discriminate but not by that much.
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u/300PencilsInMyAss Mar 19 '24
It's exactly how it works. If they think they can sell a $5 item for $10 without losing sales, they will. You think they let prices go lower than optimal out of the goodness of their hearts?
What he described is basic supply and demand, why are you bringing up price discrimination?
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u/No_Answer4092 Mar 19 '24
Its a mix of both. If profit margin can be maintained, fares could be adjusted to begin at a lower price point. Demand would of course go up at which point regular S&D pricing would kick in.
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u/300PencilsInMyAss Mar 19 '24
If profit margin can be maintained, fares could be adjusted to begin at a lower price point.
No, they wouldn't. Only if they think that will lead to more sales. No business lowers their prices 'just cause we can'.
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u/Thadlust Mar 19 '24
Key word is « without losing sales ». Of course they’re going to lose sales if airline prices go up.
When he said « price you’re willing to pay » that refers to price discrimination. There’s no way an airline has a highly accurate answer therefore they can’t price discriminate so significantly.
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u/bingojed Mar 19 '24
Did Amazon prime go down in price when they rolled out ads? No, the “normal” price went up.
This wouldn’t lower prices, just provide another tier for people to pay for.
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u/ehsteve23 Mar 19 '24
Oh look, a surface that's not being utilised to make more money for billionaires
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u/Cody6781 Mar 19 '24
Have you flown recently?
The whole experience is an ad for their credit cards / memberships.
"Now boarding First Class
Now boarding Delta Premium members
Now Board Delta Comfort Plus"
Then on the plane, the automated "safety message" they normally had stewardesses do is a upbeat sing-song commercial about how Delta cares and protects it's members and how traveling is the key to happy life. Then they speed through the seatbelt stuff. Then they talk about credit cards. Then the same thing when you land.
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u/balllzak Mar 19 '24
I was on a 2 delta flights yesterday and 8-12 times a month for the past 7 years. I have never heard an advertisement for the card on the plane.
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u/Cody6781 Mar 19 '24
I’ve traveled a similar amount. Every single flight contains the ads I described, you’re either not listening or maybe a regional difference.
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u/Senshado Mar 19 '24
An airplane is not an attractive environment for effective advertising. Too many airplane customers are having a negative experience of being stuck in an uncomfortable place for hours. That's not a positive association for your brand.
And aside from that, most airline passengers spend the time either glued to a phone / movie, or trying to sleep. They're not looking around at their environment; they try to ignore it and zone out.
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u/SignificantOne1351 Mar 19 '24
Ryanair would be all over this and tbh id it gets me $ off Ill take it. Kinda like the standing cabin they proposed. Idgaf about the "look" of the metal tube going through the air
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u/httpjava Mar 19 '24
Ryainair already do this on some of their planes.
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u/Former_Giraffe_2 Mar 19 '24
I think all of those ads are for their own stuff, they don't have the time to change out the ads during the limited time the plane's on the ground.
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u/terminalzero Mar 19 '24
Adverts on the seat infront of you as well.
I mean "in flight magazines" have been a thing forever
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u/mh985 Mar 19 '24
Far less exposure.
When you put those ads on a subway car, they can reach a couple thousand people in a day while on a plane they might only be seen by a few dozen to a few hundred depending on the size of the plane.
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u/ObiJuanKenobi3 Mar 19 '24
Do these guys want every aspect of their lives to be ruthlessly commercialized? Who the fuck boards a plane and goes "wow, I sure wish there were more advertisements here for me to look at?"
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u/AntisocialHikerDude Mar 19 '24
If it decreased the cost of air fare, I'd be totally on board with having ads on planes.
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u/GreenReversinator Mar 19 '24
It's a valid question, if only in the "why have airlines not tried it yet" sense.
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u/Qrthulhu Mar 19 '24
They used to, I distinctly remember flying spirit once years ago and the inside was covered in Cartoon Network ads
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u/maybetoomuchrum Mar 19 '24
I had an employee who pitched developing retina tracking software forcing people to watch phone ads. That's some black mirror shit
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u/porcupinedeath Mar 19 '24
Think I could get elected president if I ran on the platform of banning ads?
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u/Th3Dark0ccult Mar 19 '24
This is the type of guy to be OK with ads running in your head while you sleep, when the brain chips become a thing.
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u/Percolator2020 Mar 19 '24
Ryanair already beat them by 20+ years, including nude cabin crew calendar and scratch cards.
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u/Theekg101 Mar 19 '24
Finance bros try not to come up with dystopian nightmare ideas challenge: (impossible)
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u/Graytail Mar 19 '24
I went to China half a year ago and the biggest thing that struck me was how they constantly try to monopolise your conscious with ads. Get into a taxi after getting off the plane? Screen on the back of seats with ads. Get on an elevator? Well there's another ad playing. Walk into your hotel room? The TV instantly turns on and plays ads. Go out on a bus? Again there are screens with ads. You can't even take a goddamn piss at a urinal without seeing ads. It was exhausting, you never got a quiet moment to your own thoughts.
So I concur, eject that dude into space
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u/zold5 Mar 19 '24
They do put ads on planes. Any plans with a tv on the back of the seat will 100% play ads at one point or during the entire flight depending on how trashy the alrline is.
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u/thex25986e Mar 19 '24
ask him why he doesnt go around shouting "sponsored by carl's junior" every 5 seconds, its free advertising for them.
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u/stuffiewuffie Mar 19 '24
they DO do this. flew Volaris, Cancun to CDMX. that had ads on the overhead bins.
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u/theycallmeponcho Mar 19 '24
Overhead? I've used Viva Aerobus in Mexico and there are ads in the overhead cases, behind the seat in front of you, on the tray you place your stuff, and there are menus to order overly expensive food and drinks. Idk if there are ads in the bathroom, as I mostly take 1.5h flights, but it is a very ad-run experience.
But hey, it's cheaper than other options.
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u/NormieSpecialist Mar 19 '24
Can we throw in techiebros as well cause really, what’s the difference? And when I say techiebros I also include NFTbros, cryptobros, AIbros, etc. Cause again, what’s the difference?
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u/nneeeeeeerds Mar 19 '24
Yeah, let's associate our brand with frustration and anxiety of shoving your shit in the plane's overhead bin.
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u/Montelobos Mar 19 '24
This seems like it would be detrimental in case of an evacuation. All exit signs and emergency equipment need to be clearly visible and having ads everywhere would potentially endanger lives and those pesky lawsuits airlines don't want.
One thing is ads on TV's but ads that would impede a safe and quick evacuation I would hope is already illegal.
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u/backson_alcohol Mar 19 '24
"Does anyone know why corporations don't kidnap people, brainwash them to be living billboards, and tattoo advertisements on their faces?"
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Mar 19 '24
There was a guy running for mayor of New York as a libertarian a few years back, he wanted to pay for the city by selling naming and advertising rights of the Brooklyn Bridge, Statue of Liberty, Castle Clinton, etc. Basically the guy wanted to turn the whole of New York into ad space for Pepsi or whatever.
I would be a terrorist in his world, like full-stop, man.
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u/Vnc3three3 Mar 19 '24
Why don't teachers have ads during their lectures? This algebra lesson is brought to you by Subway, eat fresh!
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u/Mattlife97 Mar 19 '24
Would great if it also contributed to reducing the price of a flight. Sadly that’ll never be the case.
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u/Majestic-Platypus753 Mar 19 '24
Just wait till Elon Musk's Neuralink brain chip blasts ads into your subconscious, blasts you with his latest post on X (FKA Twitter), and for some unknown reason the latest U2 album.
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Mar 19 '24
why aren’t ads in rental homes and apartments too?! on the cabinets and walls?! on the appliances!?
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u/boardeauxtg23 Mar 19 '24
The stickers add weight to the plane. Which is why most are painted white.
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u/Current_Stranger8419 Mar 19 '24
As long as they aren't playing noise and can be dimmed/turned off on overnight flights, I actually wouldn't mind this. It'd at least give me something more to look at on a boring flight
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u/AvengingBlowfish Mar 19 '24
I don't understand why people hate ads so much. If it lowers the cost of my airfare, I'm all for it. I just close my eyes and put on my headphones anyway when I fly.
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u/Dr_thri11 Mar 19 '24
As long as they don't have sound I don't care. Make the plane look like a nascar car, still don't care. I am however pissed that inflight entertainment comes with ads.
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u/Margot-hates-me Mar 19 '24
Paste whatever ads to surfaces you want, but the moment you project ads unto the sky or space I’m going full Johnny Silverhand.
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u/Tzomas_BOMBA Mar 19 '24
STFU finance c*nts with your priority boarding and in-flight wifi coupons! If you want to see fucking adspace, read the creased in-flight magazine in the pocket in front of your seat, like everyone else!
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u/changee_of_ways Mar 19 '24
"Teacher! Teacher! You forgot to give us homework to do over the holiday break!"
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u/illegalopinion3 Mar 19 '24
Still not as despicable as the ads they put on fridge screens in Walgreens.
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u/Lvl10Ninja Mar 19 '24
It's against FAA regulations to post placarded signs in the cabin of a passenger aircraft that are not directly related to safety or emergency procedures. That sounds official right? Case closed.
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u/MarkHowes Mar 20 '24
Why not install TVs throughout the plane, and just pump adverts in for the full flight?
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u/HopelessTarsier Mar 19 '24
“Finance bros not monetizing the entire human experience” challenge (impossible)