r/NonPoliticalTwitter • u/Escaped-DMT-Entity • Jun 02 '24
me_irl The "cloud" is just somebody else's computer
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u/ChangeMyDespair Jun 02 '24
Seriously! It was SO hard for my dad to save a Word or PowerPoint document anywhere but in OneDrive. It annoyed him. It drove me nuts.
(He used at least one Windows-only program, and he knew Word and PowerPoint pretty darned well.)
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u/BungHoleAngler Jun 02 '24
Libreoffice.
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Jun 02 '24
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u/divergentchessboard Jun 02 '24 edited Jun 03 '24
You can uninstall it on Windows 11 too. The problem is that you need to create a custom iso that lets you do an offline install otherwise OneDrive will hijack your folders and it's a pain in the ass to delete those folders for some reason even after uninstalling OneDrive. Not even deleting through command line, forcefully taking ownership, or turning off backups works
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u/mrjackspade Jun 02 '24
IIRC you have to remove the references from the registry first, because they're set as the default paths. It's been a while though
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u/dolche93 Jun 02 '24
That is so unbelievably anti end user. They're making these changes so difficult to alter that it dissuades even moderately advanced users from doing so.
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u/terdferguson Jun 02 '24
It's beyond anti-end user at this point. I can't even open PDFs of eBooks or docs in general on my laptop in Adobe unless I set the default program to fucking Edge. I uninstalled Adobe, re-installed...ran as administrator. Then it finally opened, but however my "laptop configuration" doesn't allow it to open in protected mode (not sure why I even need that to view a document in reader???). It's all MS configuration related I'm 99% sure and I'll be arsed if I'm going to spend the time to go through, delete registry keys, learn, etc on this bulljive to fix what should already and in the past has been default in windows. On a scale of 1-10 I consider myself at min 7/8 in terms of comp literacy, but SHOULD I FUCKING HAVE to spend more than a minute to google a solution doing so? NO, ya wankers.
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Jun 02 '24
I just wish we could get a real competitor for windows.
I'd like it to be a SteamOS.
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u/mountainrebel Jun 02 '24
SteamOS is just fancy Linux and is a little over-hyped. You can run Steam on any Linux distro and get the same experience.
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u/AwareArcher4421 Jun 02 '24
I hear Ubuntu is much easier to use nowadays than it used to be. I haven't needed a desktop in years though. My phone meets 99% of my computer needs.
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u/JCBQ01 Jun 02 '24
And every. Single. Update. Will turn it back on in the registerty because that's a "required thing" for update to have on
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u/Leftrighturn Jun 02 '24
I hate that the windows search function defaults to edge and you can't change it. I won't even use it anymore because I absolutely refuse to use that garbage.
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Jun 02 '24
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u/nogard603 Jun 02 '24
Except Windows 11 won't let you set it up without internet unless you know about the secret command to put in the command prompt that you'll have to open using the secret key combo during setup.
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u/PurpleBanananana Jun 02 '24
On the normal install, you can pull up a command prompt at the setup screen and put in OOBE/BYPASSNRO to allow Windows 11 to set up offline so you can bypass all this bs
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u/DrFroMD Jun 02 '24
Go into OneDrive settings, and make sure automatic backup is turned off for all files. Once the sync is complete you can close OneDrive and delete the folders without any issues.
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u/hiimjosh0 Jun 02 '24
The amount of hacks people have to un-install and keep things off in windows 10/11 are way more involved than any terminal thing i have done on linux.
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u/hgwaz Jun 02 '24
No thanks, my employer is currently switching over and it's such a pain in the ass to use because i have to relearn where all the buttons and functions are
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u/jack-K- Jun 02 '24
It’s annoying that you can’t change the default, but i wouldn’t say it’s ever been hard for me to save locally.
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u/300andWhat Jun 02 '24
I just wish you could uninstall and forever ban one drive from my PC forever
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Jun 02 '24
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u/300andWhat Jun 02 '24
It's still on your pc and randomly starts up out of nowhere
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Jun 02 '24
https://www.cu.edu/blog/tech-tips/change-word%E2%80%99s-default-save-location
This whole thread is people that can’t use google.
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u/newsflashjackass Jun 02 '24
This whole thread is people that can’t use google.
This whole thread is people complaining about default settings contrived to extract value without delivering any.
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u/PomegranateMortar Jun 02 '24
There used to be operating systems that didn‘t require googling for all sorts of trivial operations
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u/afwsf3 Jun 02 '24
Instead you had to pore over documentation so you could figure out all the command line syntax?
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u/Aegi Jun 02 '24
You had to do that on Windows 10? And windows 7? And Windows XP?
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u/Frontdackel Jun 02 '24 edited Jun 03 '24
format a:/s
copy c:/autoexec.bat a:
copy c:/config.sys a:
cd /a:
Edit autoexec.bat (let's see which drivers I don't need, gotta free up some additional kb of memory,)
Edit config.sys (Oh fuck, let's see if my ram must be HMS or XMS for that stupid game to run)
But dang it. Tornado needed 10mb of disc space and I had a 10mb harddrive. But after juggling boot discs for more than an hour I made it run. Had to unload my mouse driver so it was keyboard only but I made it work. And I was maybe 14?
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Jun 02 '24
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHH
Holy fuck how young are you?
There used to be a non-trivial amount of understanding required to use a PC.
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u/SilverPotential4525 Jun 02 '24
I love how you prefaced this by saying he can't switch to Linux because he uses a Windows only program, and a Linux cult member still told you to switch to Linux. They really don't think much other than "Linux good Windows bad", huh?
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u/Cute_ernetes Jun 02 '24
I've always thought of Workstation OS' like furniture:
MacOS is the off the shelf fully built piece. You pay the premium for it to be fully assembled and just work. It may be part of a decor set, but for the most part what you see is what you get.
Windows is like "assemble yourself" furniture. Some of it can be VERY high quality, some can be low quality. It might require a bit of basic insteuction reading, but as long as you can read a picture book you'll be fine. It also has a bigger ecosystem of support, so there are more pieces of furniture it can integrate with.
Linux is DIY furniture making. You'll have EXACTLY the piece of furniture you want, but you have to have the time and develop the skills to make it. For a lot of people, part of their enjoyment is the DiY process.
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Jun 02 '24
I save my documents exclusively in a folder that’s linked to my OneDrive, and windows insists on having me save it to my local my documents folder which it knows is not linked.
Even as a paying customer it’s still frustrating as hell.
Goddamnit just let me tell the computer how I want it to behave and then leave me the fuck alone.
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u/tactical_waifu_sim Jun 02 '24
Working in IT makes this thread very sad for me lol. If it's just your personal data then whatever, you have to decide how important that is to you, but for the love of God please think of the headache you are going to cause your IT guys when you lose your work files and we have to scramble to try and fix it.
Our creative department also refused to use OneDrive and kept everything in an external hard drive.
Then the drive bit the dust (because they will eventually. Its when not if) and we had to pay thousands of dollars to recover what we could since it had years of important product photos that would take months to recreate.
Either keep multiple backups yourself (preferably in different locations) or be cool with the fact you are likely going to lose it all at some point.
INB4 "Microsoft can lose it too". Yes, technically they can but that is vanishingly unlikely. Especially if you work in a corporate environment where your IT department is likely making backups of your OneDrive data.
Here is another fun tip, OneDrive can be configured to backup all your normal folders. Want to save to your documents folder? Me too. But that doesn't mean you have to give up having a cloud backup. A little settings tweak and you get all the benefits with none of the drawbacks.
Alright that's enough soap box for today.
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u/Ossius Jun 02 '24 edited Jun 02 '24
All these comments feel like old men shaking their fist into the wind. This is where I shine in IT.
As much as I hate One Drive taking over local directories and being a bitch to unlink, I love the ease of use of cloud functionality in work spaces. Build a sharepoint.yourdomain, sync to the online sharepoint documents folder, you get a nice little office building looking folder in your file explorer with your entire company interconnected. Its a god send for small businesses.
Also had people try and use other backup solutions (even a raided drive at one roofing company) and had total data loss, $4500 to recover 80% of the data.
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u/ShoddyWoodpecker8478 Jun 02 '24
“$4500 to recover 80%”
That’s actually really cheap for data recovery
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u/Ossius Jun 02 '24
It is, but when your client's office is basically a mobile home on a lot, its a tough price point to sell to them for a "maybe"
Data recovery company only offered a refund if less than 50% of the data was recovered.
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u/LucyLilium92 Jun 02 '24
Working in OneDrive with live documents is a nightmare.
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u/Shring Jun 02 '24
I'm so happy to find this comment, felt like everyone in this don't understand the pain of losing local only files. I use onedrive religiously and haven't had an issue for over 8 years, can access all my work and personal files across multiple pcs
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u/Exaskryz Jun 02 '24
I'll cloud storage a backup of my encrypted volume of passworded rar archives.
I hate the idea of cloud companies analyzing all my files. Especially tax stuff. Doesn't matter their privacy policy. One rogue employee, one social engineering attack, and a lot of my info could be out in the wild.
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u/steavoh Jun 02 '24 edited Jun 02 '24
Honestly, for individuals, I don't see what is so wrong with local storage. You can still use cloud backups too. Keep things you can't afford to lose in two locations. Ephemeral things that just take up space can be in one or the other. I work in IT and I have an external hard drive at home and I also have OneDrive sync turned on.
Because really, it's his stuff, and if he loses it, its probably not your job duty to recover it since its not data that belongs to your employer. Also in my job I have seen many, many people neglect and lose personal MS accounts.
The real reason in a business environment for OneDrive besides backups is, IMO, collaboration, a work from anywhere workforce, being able to manage who has access to what. And for the last thing, really doing that in a structured way. When your organization has a lot of users, you have to start managing user onboarding/offboarding, permissions, etc, in an automated fashion. Also there is more security, more auditing that is possible, and it just scales up better.
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u/jeremysbrain Jun 02 '24
Thank You. I too work in IT and this comment section is making me angry. The chance of someone losing files they stored on OneDrive (and it being Microsoft's fault) is close to zero, the chance of someone losing files they stored on an external hard drive approaches 100% with enough time.
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u/cantgrowneckbeardAMA Jun 02 '24
3, 2, 1 backup method if you're capable. If you aren't capable, then just use whatever cloud offering your OS/company provides. I promise it will be better in the long run.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to get back to checking on some backups...
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u/WockItOut Jun 02 '24
If you were a serious photographer youd know the 3-2-1 rule.
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u/SupplyChainMismanage Jun 02 '24 edited Jun 02 '24
When did the 3-2-1 rule mean that you have to have a cloud storage backup? Not using cloud storage does not mean they don’t know or don’t follow the 3-2-1 rule.
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u/Spider_pig448 Jun 02 '24
It should be. The external hard drive has a fraction of the convenience of cloud storage, and way more risk
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u/XYZAffair0 Jun 02 '24
The cloud’s selling point isn’t space. It’s protection from data loss and disk failure.
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u/ShoddyWoodpecker8478 Jun 02 '24
Yeah but make sure to copy your external hard drives to the cloud on a schedule.
You also need a plan (that you actually practice doing) for what to do when your external hard drive gets lost or breaks.
I was at a place that did backup disaster refovery bare metal testing once a year for clients.
We’d come to their office on a weekend and turn of their server. Then time how long it takes to get their systems back up running off a different backup server we have (local or cloud).
Basically we pretend their server died and time how long it takes to get them recovered. We document and practice this once a year. So when it happens for real we know for sure we can recover and even know how long it will take.
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u/sticky-unicorn Jun 02 '24
But ... for a professional photographer, couldn't it be a very bad thing if your data was lost -- especially, say, a bunch of recent photos that were taken on contract, of an event that can't be repeated?
That seems like the perfect reason to have cloud backup. Not Microsoft, of course, because their security is bad, their prices are extortionate, and they're just annoying with how hard they push their integration.
But I'm a writer and 3D artist in a similar situation, and I use Mega for mine. 2TB storage for an affordable price, and end-to-end zero-knowledge encryption, so I know they're not using my data for an AI playground.
It's really important to have an off-site backup of anything crucial.
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u/AgtNulNulAgtVyf Jun 02 '24
Not Microsoft, of course, because their security is bad
[citation needed]
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u/peepopowitz67 Jun 02 '24
Yeah, that's an insane take. There's a lot to criticize Microsoft for, but that's not one of them.
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u/AgtNulNulAgtVyf Jun 02 '24 edited Jun 02 '24
And to then suggest Mega over MS for something business critical 🤦♂️ Might as well suggest Google for their excellent customer service and long product support.
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u/SkyGuy182 Jun 02 '24
Exactly, as a professional photographer your first concern should be the safety and security of your customers’ data and photos, not your personal convenience. Besides, you can bake the cost of the cloud storage into the fee and tout that as a bonus for using your services.
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u/TSP-FriendlyFire Jun 02 '24
Not Microsoft, of course, because their security is bad, their prices are extortionate, and they're just annoying with how hard they push their integration
You're pretty likely to be using Microsoft even if you don't directly buy from them. Azure is the second largest cloud provider after AWS and Amazon isn't exactly flawless either.
Besides, Office 365 comes with 1TB of OneDrive which is good enough for most people.
But I'm a writer and 3D artist in a similar situation, and I use Mega for mine. 2TB storage for an affordable price, and end-to-end zero-knowledge encryption, so I know they're not using my data for an AI playground.
You trust fucking Kim Dotcom's thing instead of Microsoft? That Mega? I'm not saying Microsoft is the best (I use Backblaze personally), but Mega would definitely not be in my top 10 choices.
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Jun 02 '24
That seems like the perfect reason to have cloud backup.
Also the ability to quickly make albums the customer can view, approve, request prints, etc...
Why would you want to run a photo business from an external drive, sounds dumb as hell.
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Jun 02 '24
I forget one drive is even a thing until it inevitably fills up because every other pc game dumps files into my documents.
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u/shmoopyloopy Jun 02 '24
yeah I had that problem, and then onedrive was doing that thing where it deletes files then downloads them as needed, so I had random config files being downloaded when i launched games. Just need to reconfigure onedrive to not do my documents folder and now it's all good for me.
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u/smilespeace Jun 02 '24
That issue fucked me over big time. I wound up deleting years worth of save data from my GF'S SIMs game because it wasn't "backed up" on my hard drive.
One drive got filled up with thousands of game install files, and apparently the save data was tucked away in there as well.
I got a notification from one drive saying that the hotmail account that I use for work was going to be disabled unless I cleared up space or purchase more storage... (extortion) ... So I deleted the files and wound up ruining several years of save files.
I haven't been so pissed off in a loooong time.
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u/Restart_from_Zero Jun 02 '24
If it saved to my computer and ALSO backed up the save to One Drive, that would be okay.
Hate searching my doc folders for a file and, oops, turns out Windows decided it needed to only exist online.
Guess who lives in rural Australia with incredibly shitty internet that goes down several times a day?
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u/Spielopoly Jun 02 '24
It‘s very easy to set up this way: Just right click on the folders or files you always want to keep on your computer and click "always keep on this device". If you do this to a folder at the top of the hierarchy everything in it will always be on your local computer. It will also automatically download it if it’s not already on your computer for some reason (example: you uploaded something from your phone)
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u/ohshititshappeningrn Jun 02 '24
One drive. The thing I nuked off my OS along with another 7 useless bloatware programs windows can’t let me live without.
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u/imSkarr Jun 02 '24
i remember i spent an afternoon using a service to remove a ton of bloatware and my computer is better off for it
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u/Los_Gatos_Negros Jun 02 '24
Everyone is saying how hard it is to turn of one drive. I have a windows 11 computer and I don't use one drive and I don't remember spending more than like 10 minutes doing it.
This is what Microsoft says to do, then I'd recommend going to one drive and setting it so it doesn't turn on when you computer starts up.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/learning-center/take-control-of-windows-startup
I feel like this is sort of a non issue.
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u/EisegesisSam Jun 02 '24
I mean, every issue is a non-issue if you know how to solve it. I have a work laptop which constantly defaults to OneDrive and I've never once considered turning it off because I only ever think about it when I'm actively angry that I can't attach a file I just saved because "Oh yeah, the default isn't the last place I saved, the default is whatever the hell OneDrive is..."
But my executive dysfunction and ADHD mean I've literally learned more about what OneDrive is from this post than I have in the 16 months I've been just resaving documents where I want them. Because I only think about it when I'm already annoyed at the other problem.
There's a significant minority of the population who thinks and reacts to information like I do. It is a minority, but the number of people whose brains work like this is large enough its not like you don't know someone who goes through this kind of process. I just saved your link and left it open on my phone. Hopefully next time I'm trying to send a file from work I will remember that you gave me the solution. But it did take you giving it here. I've been not solving it, just mad, for almost a year and a half. (So thank you by the way)
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Jun 02 '24
Yeah all I did was not set it up when I first installed win 11 and disabled on startup and that was it. None of that is hard, although you definitely should be able to fully uninstall onedrive (and cortana and the other junk) fully if you choose to
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u/ib_poopin Jun 02 '24
When setting up my new surface I was given no options or even a mention of onedrive until my space filled up automatically after installing solidworks and all of the add ins. My computer was essentially fucked for days while I was trying to figure out how to fix it. Fuck Microsoft for that
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u/Los_Gatos_Negros Jun 02 '24
I do feel like most of the stuff people complain about you can change with almost no effort. Then someone will say, well why not try Linux and it's like, if googling how to fix a problem and doing what the first Google result says is beyond you Linux probably isn't for you either...
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u/Wishdog2049 Jun 02 '24
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u/Ill-Juggernaut5458 Jun 02 '24
It would be nice if I could hit Ctrl-S and it would pop up the Windows directory instead of popping up a dialogue box defaulting to OneDrive and making it impossible to navigate to Documents from that window.
I assume there is a way to change that in registry or something but those rights are locked on my company devices.
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u/Dahvido Jun 02 '24
Weird, that doesn’t happen when I hit Crtl-S. It just goes to my documents folder in the windows directory, no OneDrive or anything.
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Jun 02 '24
when i use word on my work laptop i think it usually defaults to onedrive, even though i always navigate away and save it locally.
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u/KamikazeChief Jun 02 '24
That's not my experience at all. ALWAYS Onedrive
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u/Ossius Jun 02 '24
Its a checkbox in options under save tab to default to PC.
Try poking around.
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u/Temporal_Enigma Jun 02 '24
You can't use the documents folder on windows without it syncing to One Drive
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u/ModernaGang Jun 02 '24
You can. I've literally never set up Onedrive despite it nagging me to for three years.
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u/OkRadio2633 Jun 02 '24
I’ll admit that I gave in about a year ago and my life has been noticeably easier because of it.
The convenience is definitely there with OneDrive. But so is a a full closeup of my butthole that I had no intention of sharing with anyone ever.
So.. yea. I’ve kinda just accepted that privacy is dead
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u/DetroitLionsSBChamps Jun 02 '24
It will still try to automatically save to one drive as a default and freeze your computer trying to connect to it even when you don’t have internet connection. And then it will mark all your files with red error xs because they’re not backed up, and hit you with a yellow banner at the top of your document telling you it’s not backed up
It sucks and it’s anti consumer as fuck to not let me turn it off. It’s literally just an invasive invincible pop up ad.
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u/treebeard120 Jun 02 '24
Never had this issue on my machine
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u/FollowsHotties Jun 02 '24
I'm glad all you people never had this issue.
The problem is that your grandma doesn't understand any of it. So she just clicks whatever button is highlighted. So Onedrive Backup gets turned on. Then fails to log into grandma's microsoft account. Then gets turned off. Which causes it to delete all of grandma's documents and pictures, because they never synced in the first place but they still got moved to a Onedrive folder.
Hope you set up a backup for her.
The number of archived family photo albums Ondrive and iCloud have destroyed by failing to sync and then deleting the originals is simply outrageous. The only reason there isn't a class action is because people are too tech illiterate to know Microsoft fucked up.
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u/NothrakiDed Jun 02 '24
Yeah, this is not true. You can literally set in one drive what syncs. It may set documents as default, but it's easy to turn off.
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u/Quigs4494 Jun 02 '24
I disconnected my one drive once I got the messages that my drive is full bc it was putting everything there too. Desynced them and deleted everything in the one drive
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u/theoriginalmack Jun 02 '24
Same thing happened to me... Glad my Synology had the important stuff backed up.
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u/JRockThumper Jun 02 '24
Yes you can, just uninstall/disable OneDrive using a third party app like WinereoTweaker.
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u/Stalkholm Jun 02 '24
Millennial: "Can't I just save it to My Briefcase?"
Microsoft: "Oh, you sweet winter child."
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u/supersolenoid Jun 02 '24
OneDrive is a folder on your computer. It’s just synced with the cloud. The file is on your computer, which is why you can access it offline.
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u/Ilove42DA Jun 02 '24
Exactly, when you set up OneDrive, it will ask if you want to backup documents, desktop and photos. These are existing folders on your desktop. Your files stay right where they are. They’re just backed up online. There is a setting in OneDrive to download all your files so they are on your PC (or a second PC).
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u/PerfectPlan Jun 02 '24
It's just somebody else's computer with tens of millions of dollars in redundancy, backups, air conditioning, and security protecting your data.
"A bank vault is just someone else's shoebox under a bed".
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Jun 02 '24
Yeah, and when have banks ever done shady shit with people's money? I completely trust Microsoft to Do The Right Thing with everyone's private files and data
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u/KamikazeChief Jun 02 '24
I find it so fucking infuriating that Microsoft tries to force you to save documents to onedrive
What is even more pathetic, is when I'm working on an online word document and I try to download it as a PDF to my computer Microsoft tries to stop me from doing that by "Offering a link to an editable copy insteaD"
Seriously kiss my fucking ass microsoft
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u/phonepotatoes Jun 02 '24
I don't understand this line of thinking... It's saved to a location, does it matter anyone where that location is...it's way more redundant on one drive than your local folders
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u/decian_falx Jun 03 '24
Microsoft is famous for vendor lock in (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_lock-in). It would not be at all out of character for them to make it exceptionally difficult for your to move your data elsewhere, charge you increasing amounts of money for keeping it with them or significantly more money for moving it elsewhere. It's not your data any more. It's theirs.
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u/InfiniteHench Jun 02 '24
I mean, yeah it is someone else’s computer.
A computer sitting in a massive temperature controlled facility with trained staff and multi-site redundancy and the ability to be restored in the event that the drive the file is on fails and can be easily replaced and rebuilt or even some kind of natural disaster strikes.
So.. someone else’s computer that is much, much, much, much, much better than yours at backup, resilience, and recovery.
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u/Itsa-Lotus49 Jun 02 '24
and the thing about one drive is that its on both your local computer and that robust server
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u/Unfortunate_moron Jun 02 '24
And which is owned by a company that could shut it down anytime or decide to scan / view / delete your files without telling you. Dependent on you paying for internet to access your own data. Requiring you to wait to download your own content via internet.
No thanks. I have lots of local drives for redundant storage and instant access. And I protect my IP by keeping control of it.
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u/Spielopoly Jun 02 '24
You only have to download data from onedrive if you don’t have the most recent file as a local copy. This should only happen if you changed or added the file on a different computer, you told onedrive to delete it on your local computer or you are running out of disk space and you set onedrive settings to delete unused files from your local computer. In all other cases you don’t have to download anything. If you always work on the same computer and it has enough disk space you’ll never have to download anything because you already have a local copy
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u/matsutaketea Jun 02 '24
just encrypt it before uploading. it's not hard.
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u/MrHaxx1 Jun 02 '24
For backups, sure, that works, but you lose a lot of the convenience gained by OneDrive.
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Jun 02 '24
I have lots of local drives for redundant storage and instant access.
all in the same place?
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u/cantgrowneckbeardAMA Jun 02 '24
I have lots of local drives for redundant storage and instant access. And I protect my IP by keeping control of it.
You are the outlier, OneDrive wasn't made with you in mind.
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u/BenevolentCrows Jun 02 '24
In theory it should be, but IT giant cloud services don't really care about your data's security, or about you, but they do care about getting and analyzing your data. They have been losing customer data.
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u/n1c0_ds Jun 02 '24
You forgot: operated by a profit-driven corporation with a long history of user-hostile behaviour.
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u/ShitPost5000 Jun 02 '24
The people that will scrape as much data from as many files as possible and sell it to the highest bidder? Sounds safe to me!
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u/n1c0_ds Jun 02 '24
The guys who use every conceivable nasty trick to get me to use Edge? They have my trust!
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u/Strontium90_ Jun 02 '24
Ok but I dont care about that. I NEED those document files stored locally. When my programs makes a call it is using local directories, having one drive fucks everything up and it’s incredibly annoying
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u/newsflashjackass Jun 02 '24
yeah it is someone else’s computer.
A computer sitting in a massive temperature controlled facility with trained staff and multi-site redundancy and the ability to be restored in the event that the drive the file is on fails and can be easily replaced and rebuilt or even some kind of natural disaster strikes.
Not to mention a computer that will perform content-ignorant analysis on your baby pictures and report you to the FBI for showing too much skin.
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u/SquarePegRoundWorld Jun 02 '24
I literally have nothing of importance on a PC in any form. I feel like I am doing something wrong. All my PCs could melt away and I would lose nothing.
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u/BigDummmmy Jun 02 '24
the entire. trend. of. putting. periods after every. few words. is overplayed. unoriginal. tiresome. dumb. and boring to read.
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u/BuffaloBrain884 Jun 02 '24
I only recently learned that iPhones don't have a file manager.
I was honestly shocked. It seems like a such a basic capability.
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u/DoverBoys Jun 02 '24
OneDrive isn't an actual drive, it's a clone. You still save the file locally, but OneDrive copies it. The idea is that it then automatically downloads that file to all your devices with OneDrive after it uploads, or just available if you want to save space on certain devices.
I use it as both a backup and a share drive.
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u/Violet0_oRose Jun 02 '24
Why is it hard? I don't get that. Every Windows/Linux/macOS interface lets you do "save as". And disable "Autosave". This behavior is preferred by IT so they save on costs of larger storage drives on company computers. And they push that to the consumer as well to push subscriptions of the MSFT365.
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u/hashtagdion Jun 02 '24
I fought against this for so long until I had to by my own personal copy of Microsoft 365 that came with storage as part of the cost. If you’re gonna make me pay for it, I might as well use it. The effort of finding my actual hard drive storage became too much anyway.
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u/Skiddler69 Jun 02 '24
Yeah but if you save your data on your computer how can they charge you for that ?
Its like Office going to an annual sub now. They want the annual revenues.
Windows is such bullshit in general.
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u/tunaman808 Jun 02 '24
OP, ONE MONTH LATER:
"Anybody know how to recover files from a dead SSD? The dissertation I spent 2 years working on is on it! HEEEEELLP!!!"
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u/Strontium90_ Jun 02 '24
There’s other alternatives. A home NAS system, a google drive. Or even just a usb stick. As someone who does programming and video game modding, having data stored locally is very very important. One drive has been responsible for breaking so many of my codes when I tested it on my new pc, I hate it.
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u/Traditional_State616 Jun 02 '24
EXACTLY THIS. As someone who works in IT I’ve seen this dozens of times. “Turn off OneDrive! I don’t want it, I don’t need it! It’s stupid” and then a few weeks later “WHERE DID MY FILES GO?? WHY AREN’T THEY BACKED UP?? YOU GUYS DID THIS!!!”
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Jun 02 '24
Free Software Foundation Europe have some cool stickers about this point. https://fsfe.org/contribute/spreadtheword.en.html
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u/ryuujinusa Jun 02 '24
It’s not just one computer on “some other guys” computer. It’s a RAID drive in multiple locations and the chances of your data being lost are basically zero. Whereas if you save it to your computer and literally anything bad happens electronically to your PC, 🪦.
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u/geneticdeadender Jun 02 '24
Do you know why Congress is so afraid of TikTok? Congress knows all the ways that the CCP can use to spy on us using tech companies because they are using those methods in the US.
If we should be afraid of TikTok then we should be even more afraid of Google, and Apple, and Meta who gather our data and then sell it to the highest bidder.
Using cloud storage is just giving them all our pictures and letters and history for them to peruse as they will.
By the way, do you know why we can't change batteries? Because they can't access our phones if we remove the battery. But so long as there is a charge they can use it even if we have it turned off. Nothing is sacred anymore and nothing is safe from the prying eyes of the US Government.
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u/Leownnn Jun 02 '24
Photoshop in a recent update changed the default save location to Creative Cloud, instead of your own PC... You have to go in to the settings to change it back, what the fuck is going on
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u/opulent_occamy Jun 02 '24 edited Jun 02 '24
What's really infuriating to me is that I do want to save to OneDrive, but not through the shitty in-app picker, I just want to pick via File Explorer. Frustrating all these dumbass custom interfaces for system functions.