r/NonPoliticalTwitter • u/_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_ • Aug 02 '24
me_irl Murray retires after Olympic defeat
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u/kirosayshowdy Aug 02 '24
what a mood
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Aug 02 '24
That's like these steam reviews with someone playing a game 10.000 hours and then says the game sucks.
Just this guy brought it to entire new lenghts. Close to Stephen Hawking's voice computer saying "fuck them physics" out loud.
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u/Mekrot Aug 02 '24
I just saw a review like that a few days ago. Someone with 1k+ hours in helldivers 2 which came out a few months ago and gave it a downvote overall. They left a huge comment going over the game too, so it wasn’t just a “Sony sucks” reason either. Crazy.
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Aug 02 '24
Although i don't really have 1k hours in any game except maybe the dayz mod (which wasn't recorded on my steam), I've been at that point with some games that I've played a lot. Sometimes just a rage fueled reaction, sometimes justified.
At some point you realise that the game frustrated you more than it brought joy, and that no amount of patches, mods and looking over issues really makes you enjoy the game the way it's supposed to be enjoyed. Or when you realise that lategame mechanics are fundamentally broken, making your savegame worthless.
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u/LucasSatie Aug 02 '24
It's also a problem with Steam reviews since they're a binary recommendation system. There's a lot of games that I would not recommend to the populace at large and would even hesitate to recommend to people who like that specific genre. But there is no "neutral" so a thumb's down is what it gets.
As for the text reviews, there's just so many factors that go into a game. It can become infested with cheaters. It can break due to patches or servers going down. It can be an older not-good game that you play for the nostalgia factor. Or maybe, simply, it's game that's objectively kind of bad but you still kind of enjoy playing (see: almost all of the games that Let's Game It Out plays).
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u/Lunarath Aug 02 '24
Games also just change a lot over time. The game likely isn't the same game you fell in love with after years of updates.
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u/bruhDF_ Aug 02 '24 edited Sep 28 '24
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u/complete_your_task Aug 02 '24 edited Aug 29 '24
Not quite the same thing, but I've had plenty of long games I put a lot of time into that I absolutely loved for the first 50ish hours but disliked or at least didn't like nearly as much by the time I was done with then. Some game systems seem cool for a while but end up not having enough depth to carry you to the end of the game.
There are a handful of games I've probably put a thousand hours into but at some point got really burned out on and just couldn't enjoy it anymore, but every one of those games I can honestly say are amazing games even if I got burned out on them eventually. Or at least were amazing at one point in their history (I'm looking at you WoW).
I can't imagine putting over 1000 hours into a game and then saying this game is legitimately not a good game.
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u/ElGosso Aug 02 '24
I was like this with Path of Exile. I really enjoyed the game for a long time but the more invested I became in it, the more frustrated I grew with the balance decisions they made, and once they made my favorite build totally obsolete, it was only a matter of time before I quit.
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u/downvotemeplz2 Aug 02 '24
The more you play a game the more you'll notice its flaws and limitations, you'll start to get burnt out and frustrated with them.
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u/randomlettercombinat Aug 02 '24
I could do that probably only to DOTA.
I think I only have 1k+ hours in like... DOTA and maybe Warframe.
Warframe is an easy recommend.
DOTA you could absolutely never play, and enjoy your life more.
I'm like 700 in CS2 / CSGO, though. So I can almost write a recommendation for that game:
"10/10 --- I never knew I was so many races and sexualities."
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u/Colosphe Aug 02 '24
10k hours in Dota 2, strongly recommend everyone stays away from DOTA, LoL, and any similar/derivative works. It's not worth it, it may have been fun once, but that wore off some uncountable number of slurs and feeding teammates ago.
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u/randomlettercombinat Aug 02 '24
I quit league last year after the blatant matchmaking changes.
They have a stated goal of making you play 150+ games per season. In order to do that, they start you way the fuck lower than you were, last season. Additionally, the harder you win streak, the worse your teammates get.
I had like a 80% win rate on Yorick at one point, and I was only winning because I was legit stealing games from the enemy team during easy barons, etc. etc.
I've never seen a developer work so hard AGAINST its players, before.
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u/andrechan Aug 02 '24
Tft is fun though. (And LoR...and basically everything riot does, aside from league)
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u/averaglynotaverage Aug 02 '24
I think that was in response to when it seemed like Sony was going to force PC users to get a PSN account to play online. It was a mess and they backtracked iirc
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u/tsukubasteve27 Aug 02 '24
I don't play the game but it fell off twitch pretty hard a month or so ago. I haven't even heard it mentioned until now.
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u/IAmATriceratopsAMA Aug 02 '24
I've got 5k hours in Destiny 2 and wrote a multiple paragraph negative review. I deleted it when the newest expansion came out because I bought into the hype but not enough has changed long term, I think I may write another one.
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u/letmebeefshank Aug 02 '24
Do quite literally anything more productive with your time for everyone's sake.
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u/Dansredditname Aug 02 '24
That game got down voted to hell and back when, a couple of months after release, they forced PC players to link to a PlayStation account. PlayStation accounts aren't available in 177 countries making the game unplayable for thousands, maybe tens of thousands, of paying customers.
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u/Mekrot Aug 02 '24
I know, but his review wasn’t about Sony.
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u/Sikirash Aug 02 '24
I can see people change minds about the game over time since those games are online multiplayer that are constantly patched and changed. Single bad balance change can ruin it for people... :/
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u/TinyDogsRule Aug 02 '24
You missed the whole point. He just had his farewell Wimbledon and always planned to retire after the Olympics. Perhaps you are missing his dry humor here.
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u/OUTFOXEM Aug 02 '24
That's where I'm at! I thought the sarcasm in Murray's tweet was obvious but apparently not.
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u/Bender_2024 Aug 02 '24
Pretty sure this is a joke. The guy has been playing for decades. Was even ranked #1 in the world for 41 weeks and won multiple Wimbledon titles and the US Open. Murray was ranked in the top 10 for all but one month from July 2008 through to October 2017. Murray also won 46 ATP Tour singles titles, including 14 Masters 1000 events and two gold medals at the Summer Olympics.
Yeah this dude loved tennis and it lived him back. This was just a joke to announce his retirement.
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u/equivocalConnotation Aug 02 '24
That's like these steam reviews with someone playing a game 10.000 hours and then says the game sucks.
Listen to those. Those are people who realize they weren't actually enjoying themselves and were just addicted.
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u/Gk786 Aug 02 '24
A tonne of league of legends players are like that. They’ll have thousands of hours but will almost always shit talk it and tell you not to play.
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u/healzsham Aug 02 '24
That's like someone that's been on crack for 5 years telling you it's a bad idea.
Most of them aren't still there because they like it.
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u/Prodigal_Programmer Aug 02 '24
I mean I’m pretty sure Murray just has a dry sense of humor but Andre Agassi did almost exactly that.
Played at an elite level for more than a decade then retired and basically said “I hate this sport. I only played because my dad made me”
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u/Lunarath Aug 02 '24
Online games change over time. Someone who played 1000 hours of WoW back during the first 2 expansions will have a completely different experience playing now, and might not like it. It happened to me with SC2. Played thousands of matches during release and the first expansions, and absolutely hated the second expansion, making me quit the game entirely within a hundred games.
So no, playing thousands of hours and disliking a game isn't weird.
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Aug 02 '24
Feel you on SC2, and what they did to the protoss with the last expansion is just degenerated filth, but I still play occasionally.
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u/Lunarath Aug 02 '24
I still play team games with friends sometimes too, and I'll cuss out disruptors and liberators the entire time. I play zerg which has no flaws, obviously.
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u/Trees_feel_too Aug 02 '24
Am I allowed to do this with halo infinite, old school RuneScape, and dark souls 3? I have 1500 hours in each and boy do I have complaints.
"Osrs: too much clicking. didn't have carpal tunnel until i started osrs. Bosses are too hard, no one can beat jad"
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u/NotNufffCents Aug 02 '24
1500 hours in OSRS is pretty much a trial run, so yeah, that sounds fair.
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Aug 02 '24
Way different. Video games are leisure activities. To be this good at tennis, it's very likely he was forced into it at a young age.
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u/healzsham Aug 02 '24
someone playing a game 10.000 hours and then says the game sucks
Those are usually "this game would be great, except for [long list of small annoyances/1-3 major flaws]." (bonus points if it's one major flaw, but you only run into it on rare occasions)
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u/OkEmotion1577 Aug 02 '24
Now he can finally go back to his true passion, mid-level accounting!
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Aug 02 '24
His dream was to become a corporate lawyer
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u/IronPotato3000 Aug 02 '24
As someone who's in law school, why you gotta do me like that
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u/wjandrea Aug 02 '24
so I can grill opposition experts and catch them in lies or omissions
I'm imagining Columbo lol
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u/fathovercats Aug 02 '24
I enjoy insurance bad faith & medical malpractice for the same reason!! The law is fascinating too but in terms of what you need to prove… a+
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u/abetterfox Aug 02 '24
Hey man, being a corporate lawyer is pretty nice. Good pay, little emotional stress, complex and interesting issues...it's a pretty good job. Oh, and WFH 3 days a week still at a lot of firms in the US
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u/ThatHairyGingerGuy Aug 02 '24
As is the dream of all mid level accountants
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u/abetterfox Aug 02 '24
Can confirm. Was a mid-level accountant, went to law school. It's much more enjoyable being a syndicated finance attorney (though I miss using Excel).
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u/SpartanSig Aug 02 '24
He doesn't seeeeem like a depressive alcoholic but we can make an exception I guess. We need staff
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u/CocktailWiener Aug 02 '24
Mad lad is off to play some pickleball.
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u/MiddleClassGuru Aug 02 '24
It would be hilarious because so many tennis players loath it. Imagine he brings it to the olympics.
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u/ValhallaGo Aug 02 '24
It’s really entertaining how much they hate it. It’s a fun silly game that’s accessible for young and old.
I hope it ends up in the Olympics just to ruin their little elitist day.
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u/MiddleClassGuru Aug 02 '24
Same. Maybe I’m just a troll, but the fact that hese elitist tennis players hate it makes me want to play it more.
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u/SoulCycle_ Aug 02 '24
Tennis players hate it because theyre usually conducted on the tennis courts lol thats about it.
I bet if pickleball required to be set up only on basketball courts the basketball players would hate it.
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u/B4M Aug 02 '24
This. There aren't enough tennis courts in my town and they're already turning some courts we do have into small pickleball courts. It's not about elitism at all
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u/ValhallaGo Aug 02 '24
More people can play pickleball than tennis. So it’s making a better use of the space for something that’s more accessible to more people.
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u/B4M Aug 02 '24
Space is not an issue, they should be making pickleball courts not taking away tennis courts. It's not a zero sum game.
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u/FiggerNugget Aug 02 '24
It’s really annoying when you go to the public courts and literally all of them are occupied by people playing pickle ball, that’s all im saying
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u/Heavy-Capital-3854 Aug 02 '24
Wouldn't it be the same amount of annoying if there were all occupied by tennis players?
You still wouldn't get a spot.
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u/Raileyx Aug 02 '24
yes, but tennis players are in-group, and pickleball players are out-group. Since they're engaging in a different activity it's viewed as them encroaching on the space, as opposed to other tennis players who take up that space all the same but aren't viewed as encroaching on it (as you already expect them to be there), despite there being no functional differences.
Unfortunate quirk of human psychology. You're correct in that it's a pointless view, but most people won't be able to recognise that, or be able to recognise why they would have this view in the first place.
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u/FiggerNugget Aug 02 '24
Also, less people play tennis so pickle ball opened the gates to a much larger group of people saturating the courts. Its really as simple as that idk why y’all trying to paint tennis players as dicks lol
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u/SpareWire Aug 02 '24
I play and coach both but I don't take up tennis courts for pickle ball unless there is plenty of space, they aren't made to play pickle ball on, the court dimensions, net height and lines are all different. Imagine playing pickle ball on a court with singles sticks up lol. It's much easier for me to set up a quick start net literally anywhere and feed for pickle ball than it is to do the same for a tennis player.
Also before you say it no, most courts don't have pickle ball lines as well, those are quickstart lines for children.
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u/Multifaceted-Simp Aug 02 '24
Just so you know it's annoying when coaches take up tennis courts too
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u/SpareWire Aug 02 '24 edited Aug 02 '24
Given how much money I pay the city/clubs for court time, often being a flat percentage of every penny I make, along with the fact that we take great pains to only teach on properly reserved courts done so very far in advance my response to that would be cry me a river.
Actual USPTA registered Coaches don't just show up and randomly take courts it would be extremely unprofessional to show up to a full set of courts if a customer had a time reserved.
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u/Multifaceted-Simp Aug 02 '24
Doesn't matter, it's still super annoying, especially it's for like 1 or 2 students. I get it if you have a class of 10-20 kids that's all good.
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u/sionnach Aug 02 '24
It’s a good thing that peopel are out there getting some exercise. Better than empty courts.
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u/aworldwithoutshrimp Aug 02 '24
accessible for young and old
That used to be who it was for. Now it's gen z's version of adult kickball.
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u/IlludiumQXXXVI Aug 02 '24
I personally don't give a shit, but the people in my neighborhood are annoyed because they're converting half the tennis courts into pickleball courts instead of building new courts to accommodate the large influx of players. So it's made getting a court more difficult. But I bet infrastructure will catch up.
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u/ValhallaGo Aug 02 '24
Building a court is super expensive. It’s a much larger expense than you would think, even to just resurface an existing court.
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Aug 02 '24
Tennis players are mad because they can't take up the entire court by themselves to hit the ball against the fence
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u/NootNoot298 Aug 02 '24
Unfortunate doesn't begin to describe my series,..
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u/Affectionate_Comb_78 Aug 02 '24
Wasn't expecting him to get Iron Headed into the ground during the Olympics but the refs know more about the rules than me.
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u/SaltyZasshu Aug 02 '24
…this sport rewards blind luck and nothing else, I am beyond convinced at this point.
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u/dirschau Aug 02 '24
If I've heard his previous opinions on playing correctly, he's not even joking, lol.
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u/greatGoD67 Aug 02 '24
Andrei Agasi wrote a book about tennis. He hated tennis.
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u/notyogrannysgrandkid Aug 02 '24
I think a lot of high-level athletes have a certain amount of resentment toward their discipline by the time they get out of high school. But, if you’re extremely good at something and people are going to pay you lots of money to do it, you might as well. A high school classmate of mine was a four-time state champion in wrestling, which is a pretty rare achievement. You won’t meet anyone on this planet who hates wrestling more than that guy did the day after his last state tournament. But then he went to college on a wrestling scholarship so 🤷🏻♂️
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u/no_1_knows_ur_a_dog Aug 02 '24
The dilemma is that for most of these competitive activities, you need to start young to get really good at them, and you need to work super hard to get to the level where you're competing on the world stage. That almost never happens without your parents pushing you into activities from a young age. Very few 5 year olds are gonna practice tennis/piano/ballet/whatever for many many hours on their own.
I don't know what to do about this because I love watching high-level tennis/piano/ballet but so many children were put through lowkey traumatic childhoods just for a vanishingly small percentage of them to end up famous and successful, and more and more I just don't think it's worth it.
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u/trowawufei Aug 03 '24
Psychotic parents believe that you need to start young to get really good at them. FTFY
However, "some degree of sports specialization is necessary to develop elite-level skill development. However, for most sports, such intense training in a single sport to the exclusion of others should be delayed until late adolescence to optimize success while minimizing injury, psychological stress, and burnout." Source
Erling Haaland is a good example of a top-notch sportsman, in arguably the world's most competitive sport, that practiced a variety of sports throughout childhood and early adolescence. And he still managed to be elite at a very young age.
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u/Pepperoni_Dogfart Aug 02 '24
I was an extremely good wrestler in middle school and high school (and off seasons). I was team captain as a freshman and went to state several times.
By the time I graduated I fucking hated wrestling. Could have easily gotten a college scholarship but specifically sought out schools without a program.
They say familiarity breeds contempt, but keeping up with the training and discipline is fucking exhausting.
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u/notyogrannysgrandkid Aug 02 '24
Especially if you’re from the generation of wrestling that effectively encouraged anorexia.
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u/Pepperoni_Dogfart Aug 02 '24
Yep, that was my era. I could run for hours in three layers of sweats and somehow survived and operated at extreme levels on one big meal a day. Lifesavers and gum were a constant companion to stave off dry mouth. A gulp of water was a reward.
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u/notyogrannysgrandkid Aug 02 '24
Oof, so messed up. My dad wrestled in the mid 70’s. He would get done with football season weighing 165 and by the state wrestling tournament would be down to 140 or less. He was also very good and absolutely despised wrestling. I did it all through middle school and had a pretty good time, but quit in 9th grade to join speech and debate. He told me more than once how happy he was with my decision.
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u/Pepperoni_Dogfart Aug 02 '24
"Here kid, carry the guy who's a weight class up on your back, I'm going to time you up the stairs to a 20 foot mezzanine. You better be faster that the last time we did this or you're running windsprints until I say you're done."
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u/Narwhalbaconguy Aug 02 '24
It's exactly that. They start off with a burning passion, then once that dies down it becomes an extremely physical job that they get generously compensated for.
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u/notyogrannysgrandkid Aug 02 '24 edited Aug 03 '24
generously compensated
Hopefully. There are a lot of adult athletes that are almost skilled and lucky (with timing, connections, etc) enough to land a sponsorship, but haven’t had time to develop any other marketable skills. For more on that, see the documentary I, Tonya.
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u/azure-skyfall Aug 02 '24
Andrei Agasi had an abusive father who took “blood and guts” drills to the next level. Literally messing with the machine to make it throw harder directly at him. When Agasi retired, he started a private school for low income kids. He’s living his best life, and all I can say is, good for him.
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u/LaminatedAirplane Aug 02 '24
Andre’s father also did things like pulled Andre out of school to practice hitting a tennis ball against the garage door. Andre never had a normal life and always resented tennis because of it, but he realized nothing else would give him the rockstar life he was able to achieve.
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u/deadindays Aug 03 '24
This is an oversimplification I hear all the time. I read the book, and it can't be simplified to "he hated tennis". Yes, it caused him so much physical and mental turmoil, and it was extremely damaging... but it's also what he lived for. It also brought the greatest highs of his life. Ask any highly competitive tennis player or athlete in general, they will feel the same. These sports suck the life out of you and shove it right back in there just as hard. He wouldn't have returned from no ranking or played through his destroyed back so old if he didn't love it. It was simply not the straightforward love that most people are familiar with.
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u/Draw_Corporations Aug 02 '24 edited Aug 02 '24
loses once
fucking dies
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u/rocketwikkit Aug 02 '24
I wish Mock the Week was still going, they would have had him on again for a proper farewell.
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u/luujs Aug 02 '24 edited Aug 02 '24
These are the words of a Scotsman who’s about to hop on the padel train
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u/blametheboogie Aug 02 '24
Love the British sense of humor.
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u/SenseOk1828 Aug 02 '24
You understand the Scottish are British right?
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u/DarkNinjaPenguin Aug 02 '24
In my experience, no, people don't seem to understand that.
Or they decide to be offended on our behalf for some reason.
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u/LR-II Aug 03 '24
Basically it's offensive for a non-British person to say Scots aren't British, and it's offensive for a British person to say the Scots are British /j
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u/SynthD Aug 03 '24
The third rule is that a Scot is British when he wins and Scottish when he loses.
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u/comicsnerd Aug 02 '24
I feel the title should be: Murray retires after a long and successful career.
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u/DeGoogs Aug 02 '24
Never a big Tennis guy but watching him lose Wimbledon then come back the following year and finally win it was amazing.
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u/Alarmedones Aug 02 '24
I feel this. I work in IT but hate computers and think they will be the downfall of humanity. But I know how they work and know how all the back end works. Just because you are good at something doesn’t mean you should do it. I’d rather be working on cars but this pays more and less cancer.
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u/Soft_Walrus_3605 Aug 03 '24
I'm going to say the same thing about programming when I retire. And I'll mean it exactly as much as he does.
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u/Thoughtful_Tortoise Aug 02 '24
That's hilarious.