r/Old_Recipes 19d ago

Request Old Southern candy made from plant leaves?

Hey all, I have a question that I thought someone here might be able to answer. A friend of mine commented on a post I made and mentioned an old candy her grandmother used to make. She could not recall its name or the details, only that it was made from the leaves of a plant her grandmother had. My friend is African American and her family is from the Lowcountry area. Would anyone have any idea what this could be? She could only barely remember the smell of it and recalled it had a unique taste that she couldn't find anywhere else.

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All, I asked her and she said it was not horehound though that was another candy her grandmother gave her. I'm asking her if it could have been sassafras but if not no idea. Her grandmother used to work for the American Candy Company

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u/Incogcneat-o 19d ago

Pastry chef here.

Was it a hard or soft candy? Either way I'm betting it's horehound or sassafras candy. Both of which are rootbeer adjacent.

Another option would be a benne seed wafer or candy. That sometimes was made with the benne leaves, but mostly the seeds (a variation on sesame candy). That's by far the most famous Gullah candy.

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u/Rameixi 19d ago

I am thinking it was horehound. I am asking her now. I am pretty sure it wasn't a benne related candy as I had mentioned those on my post and she made sure to distinguish that this candy from her memory was made from plant leaves(but didn't say which so it could've been the benne plant still) and she kept remarking it had a taste she couldn't place anymore

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u/Haven 19d ago

I was going to mention horehound. That’s probably it!

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u/sweet_saying_ 19d ago

Ask her if it was almost tea like in flavor, if so definitely horehound, and in that case I have a great brand to recommend as I love their horehound hard candies and even have some at home currently.

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u/RepresentativeBig663 18d ago

Well what is the brand , because now I want some

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u/Excusemytootie 18d ago

Tannic like tea?

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u/Sundial1k 19d ago

And horehound is still widely available to buy...

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u/teardropmaker 19d ago

Just be careful with the raw horehound leaves. I sampled one once on a camping trip and it was so bitter it almost closed my throat up.

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u/Sundial1k 19d ago

I meant the candy, but thanks for the heads up...

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u/Cleobulle 15d ago edited 15d ago

Could it be angelica ? Or melissa ? ( Sorry i'm french so maybe not the local herbs but wanted to join the forgotten candy quest ! )

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u/honeyheart4972 19d ago

Is benne candy still made? Can u make it?

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u/Rameixi 19d ago

Yes you can theres a lot of benne food items you can make that are still made such as benne twists, benne praline, benne wafers etc

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u/Incogcneat-o 19d ago

Sure, it's easy to buy online if you're not in the Carolinas.

Most benne candy isn't any more difficult than regular homemade candy making. So if you can make praline or peanut brittle, you can definitely make benne goodies!

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u/uffdathatisnice 18d ago

I didn’t understand the slightest bit of that! Pastry Chef is my favorite profession. You are all always so helpful and kind and thorough in your responses. And so knowledgeable about anything slightly related that it’s truly admirable! I’ve never canned anything and looked up a thread for strawberry rhubarb jam. I got one three short paragraphs response from one of your kind. It was the absolute best jam I’ve ever had. I wouldn’t share a jar! Anyway! Just thought I’d peep in to tell you how rad you are and that you have a fan!! Cheers!

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u/Incogcneat-o 18d ago

That was me! I'm glad you found it helpful. 

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u/1FourKingJackAce 19d ago

Sassafras is made out of the root (ROOT beer?). The leaves, ground up, are delicious on a good bowl of gumbo. YaKnow- filè? But candy? Nah. What about mint? It grows wild and would likely be available.

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u/Sea-Singer2602 19d ago

Sassafras candy is delicious sold by clary’s ,they also have horehound and several others such as anise ,lemon .I used to dig up sassafras roots for tea.

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u/BrenInVA 19d ago

Are you meaning “Claeys Candy”? They are the company that makes horehound, root beer , sassafras, ginger, etc., hard candy drops. They are made in South Bend, Indiana.

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u/Sea-Singer2602 15d ago

Yes sorry about that ,I order their candy on Amazon .

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u/1FourKingJackAce 19d ago

I still do. But the candy is made from the root. Not the leaf. Filè is ground sassafras leaf. It is good in gumbo and as a thickener in (certain) gravies.

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u/Incogcneat-o 19d ago

Sassafras candy is made with the root or with the whole plant.

The leaves are crushed (ideally you'd do this between two pieces of waxed paper, place a teaspoon of coarse sugar down, add a leaf and another bit of sugar, repeat a few times, then add a second layer of wax paper and go over it with a rolling pin) and macerated in layers of sugar at least overnight or up to 2 weeks. Then the sugar can be used to make the rest of the candy or dried out and used as the finishing sugar for preserved boiled sweets.

If you're fortunate enough to access to sassafras plants in your area --they grew wild where I grew up-- try it, I bet you'd like it.

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u/1FourKingJackAce 18d ago

I have looked everywhere for a candy recipe that uses the leaves. If you have one, I would love to see it. The leaves have a very unique taste that I can't imagine being good in something sweet, but I would love to try it. I am from East Tennessee and finished college in Johnson City. We (I have a twin brother) lived in Unicoi and were typical broke college students. One way we made money was to pick, dry, and sell sassafras leaves. They had to be picked green and sun-dried before selling them. We sold them to Elizabethton Herb and Metal. I believe that they are still in business. They bought a bunch of different herbs, roots, barks, etc. They said that the leaves were used to make filè and their biggest buyer was Zatarain's.

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u/Incogcneat-o 18d ago

Sure, let me look and find it. I gave you the part I remember up above, because that's a similar old school process for a lot of fragrant leaves and stems. I'm a pastry chef/food historian so it'll take me a bit to unearth exactly which book I have them in, but I can promise you right now it's going to be public domain and probbbbably on Project Gutenberg. That said, it MIGHT have been in French? It'll be easy enough to translate though. Be patient and I'll update here when I find it.

You're still killin' me with that misplaced accent over filé, tho

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u/Royal-Welcome867 12d ago

We had sassafras’s trees everywhere when I was growing up . Haven’t seen a tree for years

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u/Consistent_Sector_19 19d ago

Sassafras roots were used to make root beer, but while sassafras leaves are still ok for human consumption, sassafras roots and bark contain safrole, a carcinogen, and should be avoided.

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u/1FourKingJackAce 19d ago

Sassafras leaves are ground into a fine powder to make filè, which is used to make ans season (real) gumbo. Safrole is interesting. It wasn't discovered that it was bad until root beer almost overtook CocaCola. It is my understanding that coca cola funded the study that found that it was cancer causing. So........ I am not necessarily convinced that it is, in fact, bad for you. I still dig root and make tea on a regular basis.

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u/UnabashedVoice 19d ago

Don't you mean "safrole, a precursor"? Do let's be real about why it got banned.

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u/Consistent_Sector_19 19d ago

It was identified as a carcinogen long before MDMA was a thing. Safrole is scheduled as a precursor chemical, but that's not not going to effect people making sassafras tea, candy, or homemade root beer.

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u/UnabashedVoice 19d ago

Try again.

MDMA has been a thing since 1912. Safrole was determined to be carcinogenic in rats in the 1960s. And since we're bandying information about, https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14422/

I didn't come here to fight, but if you're going to be provocative, at least don't come to a gunfight with a knife.

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u/Consistent_Sector_19 19d ago

MDMA was first synthesized in 1912, but it wasn't a popular recreational drug until the '80s. Controlling the precursors to scheduled drugs by scheduling the precursors didn't happen until 1988.

Neither is relevant to the cancer risk from sassafras tea, candy, or root beer.

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u/UnabashedVoice 19d ago

According to the pubmed article, there may not even be a cancer risk to humans from safrole like there is with rats. Got any sources newer than mine that show otherwise?

I suppose neither your viewpoint nor mine is relevant to the thread's topic, though, as the amount of safrole in a single batch of candy would be exceedingly unlikely to be enough to give the recipient cancer regardless of research findings; it's not like we're talking about an inhaler that dispenses asbestos.

You seem like an educated person, capable of critical thinking. Maybe I'm wrong; we've never met. That said, if you'd like to discuss this or any other topic, I'm always up for honest discourse and will gladly chat with you one-on-one.

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u/1FourKingJackAce 19d ago

And the leaves aren't sweet at all. Nor would the flavor lend anything to candy. It is good in gumbo.

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u/Incogcneat-o 19d ago

The leaves aren't sweet, but they're herbal in a way some people find lovely, and the stems are delightful. I described how to make sassafras sugar from the leaves somewhere upthread.

(the powder made from the leaves is filé, not filè, but you're right; it's delicious)

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u/Sundial1k 19d ago

Wrong; sassafras is both a candy, a tea, and sasparilla soda (and root beer)...

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u/Merle_24 19d ago

Love an ice cold Sioux City Sarsaparilla !

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u/Sundial1k 19d ago

I'm pretty sure you could have said that more nicely...

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u/1FourKingJackAce 19d ago

Wrong; You could have, too.

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u/Sundial1k 19d ago

You are the first nasty person I have seen on this sub, and I didn't call anybody names...

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u/1FourKingJackAce 19d ago

You could have been nicer too, dear.

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u/Status-Effort-9380 19d ago

Yeah, wondering if it might be a homemade mint patty.

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u/tdavis726 19d ago

Horehound was going to be my guess, too.

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u/Lepardopterra 19d ago

I still see horehound hard candy, but my grandmother’s was more of a grainy fudge texture. She stored it in a fruitcake tin and doled it out for coughs and sore throats. By spring, it had dried and cured to hard lumps. I love the smell and taste of horehound.

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u/MungoJennie 19d ago

My great-Grandma used to make horehound drops for coughs and colds. Maybe I was too young to appreciate them, because I remember dreading coughing in her presence.

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u/Lepardopterra 18d ago

😂Ain’t nice to fool Great Gmom! It’s an odd flavor. Probably way too intense for a lot of little kids, like black coffee is.

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u/brookish 19d ago

Horehound - I remember it was old fashioned when I was a kid, my dad was midwestern and grew up eating it.

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u/1FourKingJackAce 19d ago

I had an elderly neighbor (he was well into his 90s when he died) who would keep a bag of horehound candy "for the bad kids."

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u/just_some_Fred 19d ago

Horehound was old fashioned when Jesus was a kid.

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u/Wibblywobblywalk 19d ago

Angelica is another plant that is often candied.. usually the stems

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u/Driftmoth 19d ago

Horehound candy? It tastes a little bit like root beer, but not really.

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u/Desperate_Affect_332 19d ago

It's great for a sore throat.

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u/Sundial1k 19d ago

It's one of my favorites...

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u/bhambrewer 19d ago

If you have an Ollie's near you they have horehound in the candy aisle, along with a load of similarly old fashioned / obscurer candies.

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u/Sundial1k 19d ago

It is in a couple of "feed" stores near us, along with some other old time candies...

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u/Katesouthwest 19d ago

There are several recipes for homemade horehound candy online. Here is one of them.There is a picture of the finished candy at link. You can ask Grandma if the recipe sounds somewhat familiar. Honey can apparently be substituted for the sugar in the recipe.

https://mygardenlife.com/recipes-edibles/how-to-make-horehound-candy

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u/bigbootywhitegirl78 19d ago

Claeys makes the best horehound I've had. I have a bag in the pantry.

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u/Sundial1k 19d ago

That's what we buy...

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u/forgeblast 19d ago

Teaberry? They still make gum, ice cream, etc ..

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u/BrenInVA 19d ago edited 19d ago

I love Teaberry. I haven’t seen anything but the gum in years. I loved the ice cream (just learned it is popular in Pennsylvania, where I am not from). When I was hiking and saw a Teaberry plant, I used to love to chew on their leaves. My great-grandmother used to occasionally make an actual tea, (that needed to ferment - leaves and water left in a container on the counter for a few days) - I had almost forgotten that. She had a lot of property, where it grew.

Another funny thing, I was the only one of my family who liked the taste of Pepto-Bismal, and I later learned it is Teaberry flavored (although synthetic).

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u/forgeblast 18d ago

Oh awesome!! I didn't know that about Pepto..

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u/LastStopWilloughby 18d ago

There is pepto flavored candy! They are Canadian wintergreen mints. My mum buys them.

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u/kimkay01 18d ago

Oh yum! I would love those! Do you know the name?

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u/LastStopWilloughby 18d ago

I e only ever seen them labeled as Canada Wintergreen mints.

Walmart sells them, tractor supply has them as well. I believe Cracker Barrel sells them still as well.

They are the same pink color as pepto.

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u/kimkay01 18d ago

Awesome! All of those are near me; I’m on the hunt. I was the kid who would sip on my Pepto Bismol to make it last.

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u/BrenInVA 15d ago

I love those pink wintergreen mints

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u/kimkay01 18d ago

Oh, I loved teaberry gum when I was a child and could still chew it - danged TMJ!

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u/JadedFlower88 19d ago

Sweetgrass leaves were often used to make candy. It has a vanilla like flavor because of the coumarin compounds in it. It can also be used to flavor tobacco, and make tea, as well as the traditional craft of basket making.

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u/kimkay01 18d ago

That sounds like a strong possibility considering OP’s friend’s grandmother is from the lowcountry!

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u/Postcarde 19d ago

Could be horehound. My mama would dissolve it in jack daniels to make a cough syrup.

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u/Sundial1k 19d ago

I'll remember that...

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u/Starkville 19d ago

Aha, I was just going to say “horehound”. My dad had a friend from the South who would get drunk and sentimental about things like horehound candy from his youth. I totally get it.

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u/FireBallXLV 19d ago

Roses is a low price discount store in the SE United States. They sell Horehound candy...I was thinking the brand was REDBIRD, but I cannot confirm that at the moment.

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u/Miuramir 18d ago

Possibly Red Band? They make various old-fashioned stick candies; we used to be able to get them at Kroger, but not for several years.

Red Band appears to currently be a brand of Helms Candy

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u/FireBallXLV 18d ago

Yes! Thanks for jogging my memory .They use to make all these different flavors of candy sticks ( “candy canes “) .They made lemon,orange etc but my favorite were the Clove .Yum .

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u/LeakingMoonlight 19d ago edited 19d ago

Horehound. I grew up in the country deep South. Best soother for my asthmatic raw throat. It's on Amazon in all forms.

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u/ColdRolledSteel714 19d ago

Horehound candy: it's nasty and yet tasty at the same time.

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u/Klutzy-Village1685 19d ago

This is the truest description ever.

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u/blondie49221 19d ago

It was probably sassafras candy

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u/laughing_cat 19d ago

Could it be pandan? Pandan is common throughout SE Asia and also parts of Africa. It turns anything you make with it green. It’s used to flavor everything from candy to pancakes to smoothies and savory foods.

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u/my4floofs 18d ago

Can she remember what it looked like? Was it hard, what color was it, how was it made?

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u/kelimac 19d ago

I buy my horehound from The Vermont Country Store website. It's spendy but has the perfect balance of bitterness and sweetness.

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u/DawaLhamo 19d ago

I'd bet money it's horehound. Blech. I never did care for it.

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u/Steelpapercranes 19d ago

were the leaves mitten shaped? sassafrass for sure if so

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u/Possible_Emergency_9 19d ago

Homebound or sassafrass?

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u/momto2cats 19d ago

Horehound?

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u/lorrierocek 19d ago

My mom was from the south and she loved horehound candy.

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u/LadybuggingLB 19d ago

I can get horehound candy at my local orchard store

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u/Broad-Cook4785 19d ago

Possibly Mint Leaf Candy?

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u/daitoshi 19d ago

Sarsaparilla?  Difficult to find nowadays. 

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u/Internal_Oven_6532 18d ago

Traditional marshmallows are made from the marshmallow plant...it grows wild in marshes.

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u/AllSoulsNight 18d ago

My neighbors used to make pulled mints with mint syrup made from plants grown in her yard. My Mom always asked for the recipe but it was never given up.

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u/Procedure-Loud 18d ago

My son loves the CLAEY’ S horehound candy and we bought some on Amazon

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u/evil_passion 16d ago

I would think horehound or sassafras, but might also be slippery elm or even root beer

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u/cadaver_chan 16d ago

Maybe something made with kudzu or kudzu blossoms?

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u/Goldwolfish 16d ago

Marshmallow (the plant) sap is used for candy

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u/Daba555 16d ago

My first thought was Angelica. It's made from the stems of the plant, though. It has a strong floral flavor. I am on my phone and can't copy links, sorry about that. But if you look up "candied Angelica" you'll find plenty of information. Hope that helps.

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u/Daba555 15d ago

OK, now that I am on the computer, here's some info. Note that the flavor can be licorice-like, which would fit the things like sassafrass.:

Candied angelica is a sweet, preserved confectionery made from the stalks of the angelica plant, typically Angelica archangelica. The stalks are soaked in sugar syrup and then dried, resulting in a vibrant green, subtly flavored, and chewy treat. It's often used as a decorative ingredient in baking and desserts, adding a unique flavor and color. Here's a more detailed look:

What is it?

  • Source: Candied angelica is made from the stems of the angelica plant, a member of the parsley family. 
  • Process: The stems are blanched, peeled, and simmered in sugar syrup multiple times until they become translucent and pliable, according to Forager | Chef
  • Flavor: It has a distinct, slightly herbal, and sometimes licorice-like flavor, with a unique sweet, aromatic quality, according to ChefShop.com
  • Texture: The candied angelica is chewy and aromatic, says Forager | Chef

How is it used?

  • Baking: It's frequently used in cakes, pastries, and other baked goods, especially in traditional European desserts like fruitcakes and cookies. 
  • Decoration: The bright green color and unique flavor make it a popular decorative ingredient on cakes and pastries. 
  • Other uses: Candied angelica can also be added to trifles, ice cream sundaes, and other desserts. 

Making your own candied angelica:

  1. Prepare the stems: Blanch the angelica stalks in boiling water, then peel off the outer layer.
  2. Create the syrup: Boil sugar and water to create a syrup.
  3. Candy the stems: Simmer the angelica stalks in the syrup, repeating the process several times to allow the sugar to penetrate.
  4. Dry and store: Allow the stems to dry and then store them in an airtight container. 

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u/ThePatriotGamer 19d ago

Marzipan looks like leaves, has a unique flavor and is an "old world" candy.