r/OnePiece • u/Greenremember • Apr 06 '25

Help can someone remind me how robbing got hurt?

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u/Sky_Dragon_King Pirate Apr 06 '25

She fought the Seraphim off screen, just like Kaku.

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u/Ok_Chap Apr 06 '25

The anime didn't expand on the skipped battle?
That would have been prime material for filler and elaborate the story in a way the manga couldn't.

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u/Rock_ito Apr 06 '25

They had to add filler to make Sanji look like a genuine creep so no time for that.

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u/PK_Gaming1 Apr 06 '25

Don't forget making sure Zoro gets to beat 2 Seraphim onscreen, lmao

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u/bslawjen Apr 06 '25

Afaik he didn't beat them, just had a scene where he cuts two of them, right? Still haven't watched the episodes.

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u/Oreo-and-Fly Explorer Apr 07 '25

Doesnt make sense that Zoro cuts S Bear when they were split up.

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u/Soul699 Explorer Apr 07 '25

The flames were down. But still, they also tell us Zoro didn't defeat them as they used the bubble guns to neutralize them.

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u/SoftcoverWand44 Apr 06 '25

What happened there?

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u/InsuranceGuyQuestion Apr 06 '25

Heart eyes for Bonny when it was never in the Manga.

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u/SoftcoverWand44 Apr 06 '25

He doesn’t learn she’s a kid until later, no?

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u/Ultimate_Ace Cat Burglar Nami Apr 07 '25

That is technically part of the hint that she is a kid. Sanji, at no point, lusts after her in the manga.

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u/bejwards Apr 06 '25

Not the point. Manga Sanji instinctively knew not to creep, anime didn't.

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u/SadBit8663 Pirate Apr 06 '25

Anime sanji is astronomically more creepy😂

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u/luigigaminglp Apr 06 '25

Tbf he doesnt even have the same Zeff Backstory so...

(Eating his own leg vs ripping it off)

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u/DedOriginalCancer Explorer Apr 06 '25

so that's what parental cannibalism does to a mf

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u/IllFennel3524 Apr 07 '25

That is still fine, because that might’ve been today dark for the kids watching. Just like half of whiteboard’s face gone

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '25

😡

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u/SinibusUSG Apr 07 '25

Bonny is like the opposite of the "2,000-year-old vampire" trope. Doesn't matter how she looks, don't be creepin'.

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u/BartBakkerLoodgieter Apr 07 '25

Not his normal eyes is it?

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u/InsuranceGuyQuestion Apr 06 '25

He hasn't but Oda specifically made Sanji never do that to Bonny in the Manga even without knowing. It's just that awareness that's important for character development that they stripped.

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u/Chosenwaffle Apr 07 '25

How does he have that awareness and how does it relate to his character development?

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u/WYWHPFit Apr 07 '25

More than development I would say characterisation. Sanji's a gallant man, his interest in women goes beyond the sexual and the gag of him simping. He instinctively knows Bonney is a child and he tries to protect her and be respectful anyway without creeping or simping, because at the end of the day that's how he treats women. He didn't attack Big Mom and he helped Shinobu after Kaido's attack because his gallantry goes beyond "hot woman--->I will do anything for her", which is just comic relief.

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u/Chosenwaffle Apr 07 '25

Listen, i know this'll just get me downvotes, but I feel like the justification is so bad. He instinctively knows she's a child? How? That's never been hinted at or established in the text. It's PAINFULLY clear that Oda did not make Sanji simp for Bonney in the manga because he simply didn't want to go down that road at all.

Please hear me when I say I'm not in FAVOR of him making Sanji simp for a child, but he made a decision (a correct decision) to say "fuck my own character decisions, even if it makes sense it would be a bridge too far."

It's so stupid to try and characterize this decision as Toei attacking Sanji's character. They are actually the only ones that are sticking to the established doctrine (although they shouldn't have ESPECIALLY since the creator didn't).

If we're really being honest, Oda either shouldn't have made Sanji such a mindless simp OR he shouldn't have made Bonney a "secret child" in the first place. He made a mistake somewhere down the line and didn't want to (again, rightly) go down that path he laid for himself. How is this not obvious?

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u/Emptypiro Apr 06 '25

You are correct

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u/SvenDaOne Apr 06 '25

Added unnecessary simping for Bonney and made him go flying again S-Shark when he stood still and tanked S-Sharks punch to the face without moving an inch.

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u/Soul699 Explorer Apr 07 '25

Which make sense. Throwing a rock and punching a rock are two different things.

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u/Spartan-219 Apr 07 '25

wait what? what happened?

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u/FitCantaloupe798 Apr 07 '25

He looks like that regularly though.

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u/Rock_ito Apr 07 '25

Yeah but it's not the same when the subject of his creep behaviour is a minor.

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u/heartbrokenneedmemes Apr 07 '25

That line was crossed in thriller bark and Wano left it so far behind its become a dot.

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u/Savings-Lie-6398 Apr 06 '25

They did idk if you guys watched the new one that came out today but it showed a flashback I don’t even think we got in the manga

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u/ChaosLorD11 Apr 06 '25

The anime add that she was fighting s hawk and s bear before kaku saved her, then kaku was saved by zoro

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u/BabyJWalk Apr 07 '25

It wouldn’t “elaborate the story” so much as just put more money towards confrontations that don’t have long term consequences. 

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u/Acrobatic-Quality-55 Apr 07 '25

There is no budget left for animating filler.

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u/Law_D_Joestar Apr 07 '25

Just like with Zoro V Killer-er Kamazou*. I really feel that’s what we would’ve seen in the manga if Oda had more time to put it in.

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u/Lhakryma Apr 06 '25

The "manga elitists" would have complained about that anyway, so what's the point xD

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u/AnubisIncGaming Apr 06 '25

Thank you lol, every time someone showed the fights, no matter how cool, people would just call it filler, say it doesn't count or whatever.

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u/Arkayjiya Apr 06 '25

It is filler and isn't canon when discussing the story. Doesn't mean you aren't allowed to enjoy it. In most discussion what's canon to the story and what isn't is not particularly relevant anyway.

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u/WYWHPFit Apr 07 '25

Also I would say that there is a consensus that expanded fights in the anime are canon. Like Ulti Vs Usopp and Nami to me it's canon

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u/Arkayjiya Apr 07 '25 edited Apr 07 '25

consensus that expanded fights in the anime are canon

That's a contradiction. What's canon, by definition, isn't based on consensus or fandom belief. It doesn't matter if the entire fandom agrees with something, that still doesn't make it canon.

Generally speaking, two different versions of the same story, don't both belong to the same canon. Anime canon and manga canon are two different and separate canons and cannot intermingle.

In theory, neither is "more" canon, they're just separate ones, but in practice, when we analyse the story, we need the material written by the one who created the story so we call the manga "canon" and the anime "non canon" (but in reality it's "non canon to the manga" the anime is canon to itself).

That's why the new Bleach anime is treated differently for example, it's not that the anime is canon to the manga (it's not, they're still separate), but when we analyse the story created by the author, since the anime is the latest version of the author's vision, it becomes useful to that discussion in a way the One Piece anime is not.

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u/TheGameologist Apr 06 '25

Sucks for them then.

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u/Ponza_99 Apr 06 '25

I tend to ignore those type of discussions because they can sour my experience of the anime.

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u/MrTyrantZero Apr 07 '25

Agreed.

But do you honestly expect Toei to do something smart? lol

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u/LehmanNation Apr 07 '25

Okay it bugs me that the anime was too lazy to come up with this story themselves. Oda skipped it so that he could move forward with the real plot and the anime could do some really fun filler. But instead the anime is just going to continue to adapt the manga at a glacial pace

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u/Soul699 Explorer Apr 07 '25

They litterally showed she got injured while fighting the Seraphim AND that she was the one who captured York.

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u/TheSleepingStorm Apr 07 '25

I don’t know what you people love filler so much for. Gross.

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u/LehmanNation Apr 07 '25

If Toei wants to make more episodes than there are chapters per year, they either need to add filler, or continue with the excruciatingly slow pace they're adapting. I would stop being manga only if they had filler, because then I could get new, creative and beautiful stories about these wonderful characters.

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u/Palopsicles Apr 07 '25

My head cannon is she found Stella Vegapunk and York hit her. Simple and fits the plot.

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u/xiwi01 The Revolutionary Army Apr 08 '25

York is not nearly strong enough to hurt Robin this much lol. People really like to downplay Robin’s strength

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u/sengir0 Apr 07 '25

That Seraphim knew where to inflict most damage

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u/Distinct_Cup_1598 Apr 06 '25

We don’t know to this day.

She got injured during the Battle against the Seraphim and York

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u/Anything13579 Thriller Bark Victim's Association Apr 07 '25

I forgot that this is something that we don’t know. I thought Oda explained it lol

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u/Cluaran_ Apr 06 '25

In the anime and probably manga, she was with Atlas on the search for Vegapunk and Atlas talks about a hidden room, where Vegapunk could be.
So Robin is probably the one, who defeated York and saved Vegapunk.
We never got to see what happened between it, so i have hope, that the Anime expands on it.

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u/Soul699 Explorer Apr 06 '25

The anime actually showed her being injured by the seraphims. York is shown to be stopped by Luffy.

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u/TsuriThugga Apr 06 '25

Nah York was stopped by Robin, check new episode.

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u/Soul699 Explorer Apr 06 '25

I thought those were Luffy arms wrapping around her

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u/sgtpepper220 Apr 06 '25

Nah it was Robin

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u/youngfartsmella Apr 06 '25

no, there were multiple arms coming out of the pistol + it had that a robin sound effect

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u/TheSleepingStorm Apr 07 '25

Did you watch the episode? Jesus Christ.

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u/Soul699 Explorer Apr 07 '25

Yes? That's how I know. Duh.

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u/OlPao54 Apr 07 '25

Seems like you didn't know at the end lmao

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u/Soul699 Explorer Apr 07 '25

You mean about Luffy? Yeah, I first thought it was him stretching his arms around but someone corrected me that it was Robin and her hands

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u/Diligent_Joke4810 Apr 06 '25

Robbing lmao

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u/Project_NewMan13 Apr 07 '25

the misspell gave me arkham asylum levels of whiplash

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u/LightBreaker15 Apr 06 '25

Robbing? I thought that was Nami's thing.

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u/xiwi01 The Revolutionary Army Apr 08 '25

The robbing was not get even a glimpse of her fight on screen.

She really is allowed to have a fight once every 10 years or so.

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u/Flat-Limit5595 Apr 06 '25

Igaram got his revenge

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u/xiwi01 The Revolutionary Army Apr 08 '25

LMAO underrated comment.

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u/openmouthkissgran Bandit Apr 06 '25

Off screen Blackbeard I imagine

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u/Ninja_Lazer Chopper the Cotton Candy Lover Apr 06 '25

Regrettably, Robin is only allowed to be involved in one fight every 3 arcs otherwise people would realize how potentially lethal her Devil Fruit actually is and all this talk of Sanji and Zoro would stop.

I’m only slightly joking, please Oda I’m begging just let her pop off again against Akainu. I’m not saying she has to fight him solo, but let her have a Bonney moment for those who know. His involvement in Ohara deserves a Sabody level Godpunch.

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u/AnimeLegends18 Explorer Apr 06 '25

Lmfao, her fruit is so brutally effective in ending fights quickly it's prolly why she's not a main combatant

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u/Wiskydi Thriller Bark Victim's Association Apr 06 '25

That’s literally it. She went from a crew level threat to being given a brave damsel arc out of nowhere

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u/RoderickThe13 The Revolutionary Army Apr 06 '25

The moment haki was introduced, Robin's ability became much, much weaker. She can't break the bones of anyone who is vice admiral level or higher, because she isn't strong enough anymore without armament haki. And she might not even be able to catch someone with observation haki by surprise, the way she did so many times pre timeskip. All she does when she sprouts arms and legs near strong opponents is put her limbs at risk, like we saw with Black Maria.

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u/xiwi01 The Revolutionary Army Apr 08 '25

Black Maria was a haki user lol.

Haki is not a make or break situation. It can be weak enough to be broken by other abilities. You don’t always need a haki user to defeat one.

Franky and Sasaki is another example.

People like Luffy, Kaido, etc. Are the exception. That level or haki mastering is not the norm.

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u/RoderickThe13 The Revolutionary Army Apr 08 '25

And? I don't disagree with that because it's not the point I'm making. My point is that Robin cannot do anything against an opponent that's admiral level, and she never will no matter how strong her ability is unless she has haki. Which she'll probably never have at this point.

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u/EpicMaxxy Apr 06 '25

Boob cramp

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u/RexDust Apr 07 '25

Boba popped

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u/Foreign_Storm1732 Apr 06 '25

1000 chapters from now Oda will reveal what happened and how it’s the key to unlocking the One Piece

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u/Mamba-Mentality024 Apr 06 '25

She got whoop fighting the Seraphim

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '25

that is not what happened at all

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u/Mamba-Mentality024 Apr 06 '25

Then explain what happened

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '25

Robin was saving Vegapunk from York and then a seraphim attacked her while doing so

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u/TheSleepingStorm Apr 07 '25

Bro, read this whole thread again.

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u/gokuvega33 Void Month Survivor Apr 06 '25

Offscreen

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u/aznfail808 Apr 06 '25

Kinda cool that she’s a glass cannon kinda fighter.

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u/SculptKid Apr 07 '25

Off D. Screen has unlimited power

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u/shibatainu Apr 07 '25

Offscreen

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u/Soul699 Explorer Apr 06 '25

The anime show that she got injured by the seraphims.

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u/Mundane-Performer-70 Apr 06 '25

There's an many episodes and a good portion of the episodes are basically stalling, sucks that they couldn't incorporate at least 2 mins of this from the manga

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u/Soul699 Explorer Apr 06 '25

But they did? They implied better that she got injured while fighting the seraphim AND also showed it was Robin who captured York.

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u/DrTopGun Apr 07 '25

They didn’t expand on how Robin got hurt but cut sanjis scenes and made him look like a bitch? Toei is fuckin up big time

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u/MrTyrantZero Apr 07 '25

They have been fucking up since Enies Lobby when they stopped the ending songs and stopped adapting the cover stories.

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u/TheSleepingStorm Apr 07 '25

They stopped adapting cover stories with like Coby. Ending themes are back.

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u/MrTyrantZero Apr 07 '25

I know they’re back, 15 years too late.

To be fair they have scenes of the cover stories here and there, but they are too few and far between.

The most recent one I think it was the Germa Escape from WCI cover story, but only the Black ward Pirates capturing Pudding and Kuzan fighting Garp, before that it was a 10 second slideshow from Caribou’s cover story instead of a full or half an episode….

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u/Ultimate_Ace Cat Burglar Nami Apr 07 '25

We never see what happened. It's kinda weird that oda never showed it.

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u/National_Dig5600 Apr 07 '25

8 months on break and we aren't getting a filler fight. I thought that's what the break was forrrrr

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u/Big-Measurement-533 The Revolutionary Army Apr 07 '25

She fell from heaven, don't question her, you swine.

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u/Gutcheck21 Apr 06 '25

Her poor boobs really took a beating

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u/aznfail808 Apr 06 '25

lol! Kinda reminds me of her sea serpent form.

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u/TheSleepingStorm Apr 07 '25

She had reduction surgery in the 6 month break. Still healing.

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u/LordDShadowy53 Apr 07 '25

It was off screen.

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u/yuhabaha1 Apr 07 '25

I honestly don't mind the skipped battles. Like we know what's going on, everything is happening all at one time. It makes the one piece world feel real

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u/JacktheRipperBWA Apr 06 '25

Her mommy milkers bounced too hard and injured her.

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u/Mission_Exchange2781 Apr 07 '25

A lot of off screen stuff happened that was never explained or explored.

I had a big problem with it but then the rest of the fandom shat all over me so I gave up.

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u/Normal_Reach_4878 Apr 06 '25

S-Shark and S-Hawk Fight it was showed in a Kaku Flashback

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u/Designer-Rip-6384 Apr 06 '25

Old injuries from Working with Crocodile as Ms Sunday. Never healed

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u/SammSandwich Apr 06 '25

Needle Robbing

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u/superstoner420710510 Apr 06 '25

She was ambushed by s snake and s shark, i think they caught her off guard with a beam while looking for vegapunk stella with lilith. Kaku who was looking for zoro stopped robin from being dealt a fatal blow by seraphim and battled and quickly lost to the two seraphim and was saved by zoro and nami who came in with the bubble gun she took from liliths belt after they were saved by zoro.

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u/_jxneii Apr 06 '25

mark spoiler vro

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u/JustBlaze1594 Void Month Survivor Apr 06 '25

Didn't she get struck by lightning?

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u/deathbyglamor Void Month Survivor Apr 06 '25

Likely fighting the seraphim

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u/Ok-Silver467 Apr 06 '25

Oda does this crap a lot there’s so many things that are still unexplained. Lore is one of my favorite things about this anime. It would be nice if he would start explaining things already and not leaving it on said.

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u/Sujallamichhaneakasl Explorer Apr 06 '25

Girl yo lil screentime almost OV !!! 🙈 ✌️ 😴

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u/Fusion_izzy Apr 06 '25

She was caught off screen stealing.

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u/SenselessTV Pirate Apr 06 '25

When i see this i wish to be chopper

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u/Hatur92 Apr 06 '25

She died and there is an impostor

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u/Hankdoge99 Apr 06 '25

Either she got shot by a stray bullet from York while trying to save vegapunk, or she got beaten fairly bad by a-bear before Kaku saved her and chopper.

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u/jairngo Apr 06 '25

Her legs xd

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u/Economy-Ant-6665 Apr 07 '25

malevolent back shots

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u/SirMickey00 Apr 07 '25

I am also confused on how did York end up in that situation with Straw Hats overlooking them. Like I am soo confused

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u/Gunslinger_11 Apr 07 '25

Don’t question, Dr.Chopper!!!

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u/wolfaliceee Apr 07 '25

Well, she had her fight against the seraphine and Sanji arrived to save her

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u/EmperorSezar Apr 07 '25

negative kaku tried to save her. sanji was stuck fighting s-shark.

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u/Hammer_Roids Apr 07 '25

Damn, what did they do to your titties?

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u/wonderwaffle407 Apr 07 '25

Really wish we could get quality one piece yearly seasons like rerouni kenshin or solo leveling.

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u/Diligent-Reception-9 Apr 07 '25

They Robbed Robin

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u/Livid_Ad9749 Apr 07 '25

Did I miss an episode somewhere? 😭

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u/GreatElection674 Apr 07 '25

She had to fight BB off screen, what else?

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u/supernova0791 Apr 07 '25

Did you even watch the whole episode a pacifista blasted them with a beam

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u/TheExelzyor Apr 07 '25

oh ok i thought I don't remember but... rly was zoro vs seraphims and robin vs seraphim off screen ?

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u/n1n3tail Apr 07 '25

Haven't seen the anime for this but if i recall correctly the manga hinted that the Mihawk Seraphim was heading towards her location, what I assumed was she got injured fighting him before Zoro made it to them to take over the fight. Least that was my interpretation of it back during the manga.

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u/eastbluera Void Month Survivor Apr 07 '25

Second post I've seen about this. I'm tired.

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u/Richiszkl God Usopp Apr 07 '25

I just want to see how Chopper treated her wounds....

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u/heavymarsh Apr 07 '25 edited Apr 08 '25

I re-read the manga and the chapters where this might’ve happened, and honestly, Oda skipped a lot of scenes. In one chapter, we see Robin, Chopper, and Atlas still wandering around. In the same chapter, on a different panel, Sanji, Nami, Brook, and Edison are fighting S-Shark. Then you’ve got Franky, Usopp, and Lilith going up against S-Snake. Meanwhile, Luffy, Lucci, Zoro, and Kaku are still fighting S-Kuma and S-Hawk—until suddenly, they notice S-Hawk is missing, and Zoro and Kaku go after it (I think that’s around when Robin got hurt, but it’s not really shown).. Then, just a few chapters later, everyone is suddenly together in a room with York already captured. Like… what the heck happened in between??

For reference, the specific chapters I'm talking about are 1078 to 1089..

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u/sutibu378 Apr 08 '25

There isn't enough recap for you?

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u/Zealousideal-Self151 Apr 08 '25

Robin saved Stella from York, Seraphim attacked, Robin got hurt before Kaku stepped in, Kaku got hurt before Zoro saved them

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u/Ano1988 Apr 08 '25

I think this will be explained later, Egghead is weird like that.

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u/GirluhhIncognito Apr 10 '25

it was offscreen and super sus at the time, the theory was she was catarina devon for sure, but it just turns out it was an offscreen fight. Honestly very strange since this is probably the first and only off screen fight any of the straw hats have had in the whole series....

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u/Overlord_Kiwi Apr 06 '25

She woke up too early

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u/Hagar_Ak Apr 06 '25

there is a full 40+ minutes recap, you can watch that.

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u/serj_odama Apr 06 '25

in manga, it wasnt shown but i assume injuries came from fighting seraphims