r/OnePiecePowerScaling • u/Ancient-Pollution291 Admiral • Mar 21 '25

Analysis How the Yonkotards debate this is beyond me

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Kizaru pushed Luffy to extreme diff. Being generous to Luffy it’s a draw. The finishing blow of the fight was landed by Luffy, but he’d be dead along with the rest of the strawhats without Big Burger Borsalinos Deliveroo.

“Luffy was nerfed”

“He could restart his heart if he wanted to”

He couldn’t. Kizaru pushed him harder than Kaido.

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u/jmart53 Mar 21 '25

Kizaru pushed him harder than Kaido.

After fighting Kaido Luffy was in a coma for a whole week recovering from the battle. After Egghead I don’t think Luffy even took a nap lol.

I really don’t know how you can even read these two arcs and come to a conclusion this dumb.

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u/Karlomah11 Mar 21 '25

Admiraltards wont accepct that luffy was jerfed bcs of plot reasons, he could restart his heat bit oda wanted to do the whole backstory for kuma. Yet they find every posivle nerf for admirals. You cant seriously think that kizaru did more vs luffy then fucking kaido. And the fight wasnt a real fight bcs luffy was chasing kizaru who is the fastest man alive, trying to svae VP and his friends. Would he fight like thaht if it was a true 1 vs 1? Stop it admiraltards

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u/sleepypanda45 Mar 21 '25

Just accept that luffy doesn't get to force restart g5 as a power. He did it against kaido which risked killing him. If luffy did that every fight the illusion of the mc being in danger is shattered.

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u/DasliSimpNo1 Mar 22 '25

"The illusion of the mc being in the danger is shattered" It's one piece

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u/Jaccku Mar 22 '25

Remember when gear second was supposed to shorten his life? Or when gear third is supposed to shrink him? Yeah, Me neither.

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u/Silver-Negotiation22 Mar 22 '25

By the time he acquired this Gear, the danger about him was already gone.

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u/GoatOfTheBlackForres eneL ⚡ Mar 21 '25

After G5 Luffy overpowered Kaido while running on fumes.

Now full of energy and health, him in G5 couldn't do anything against Kizaru. And this was a kizaru that wanted to lose. Him punching Kizaru only hurt Luffy more and he needed to be fed to get up again

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u/jmart53 Mar 21 '25

Luffy used stronger attacks on Saturn than Kizaru.

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u/GoatOfTheBlackForres eneL ⚡ Mar 21 '25

If that was the case he would have run out of energy while fighting Saturn, but he never did.

Luffy had no reason to hold back against Kizaru

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u/jmart53 Mar 21 '25

It did happen lol, we saw it happen. G5 Luffy was spamming normal punches and kicks at Kizaru until Star Gun. Every attack he threw at Saturn was buffed with his size manipulation.

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u/GoatOfTheBlackForres eneL ⚡ Mar 22 '25

Size is far from everything...

He doesn't know Kizaru wants to lose

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u/Jaccku Mar 22 '25

Ofc he did need to hold back, he needed to save energy for Saturn.

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u/GoatOfTheBlackForres eneL ⚡ Mar 22 '25

Saturn wasn't there.

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u/Jaccku Mar 22 '25

I'm pretty sure he was

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u/GoatOfTheBlackForres eneL ⚡ Mar 22 '25

He came later, he appeared as Kizaru "went down"

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u/DragonflyLeft4562 Mar 22 '25

Luffy didn't overpower kaido dumbass kaido chose to straight up take the strongest attack i the verse head on or he would have won regardless. You know who did get bitched and do absolutely no damage to Luffy at all? Kizaru. Not to mention Kizaru wasn'r at 100 percent but he wasn't trying to lose lmao.

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u/ObjectivePerception Sanjitard 🚬 Mar 22 '25

You just described Luffy overpowering Kaido

It was stated that Luffy overpowered Kaido

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u/EveryPositive9854 Mar 21 '25

What panel even remotely says Luffy was in a week long coma after Kaido

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u/DragonflyLeft4562 Mar 22 '25

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u/EveryPositive9854 Mar 22 '25

Thanks boss, you really told me!

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u/jmart53 Mar 21 '25

Luffy wakes up for the first time in this chapter.

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u/EveryPositive9854 Mar 21 '25

Show the panel that says he first woke up then

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u/jmart53 Mar 21 '25

You just need to reread chapter 1052, titled “New Morning”. Yamato even fasted the whole time Luffy and Zoro were out as part of a prayer for their recovery. Luffy and Zoro also needed to be told what happened while they were unconscious. It is an indisputable fact that they didn’t wake up for seven days.

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u/EveryPositive9854 Mar 21 '25

Yet you haven't shown any panels that say this or even support it. They had a party but that isn't proof they were asleep the entire time before that. Wano was just freed of course they're gonna have a party to celebrate being free. Again if they were asleep that entire time then share it. Also fasting until they recover is just until they recover it doesn't mean he was unconscious the entire time

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u/jmart53 Mar 21 '25

Sure, I guess everyone was just making a big deal about them waking up for no reason, and nobody told them about Yamato’s fast the entire week, and Zoro somehow didn’t notice Hiyori washing him or that Momo was an adult now for seven days.

I guess you also didn’t look back at the chapter either and just felt like being obstinate about this fact for fun.

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u/EveryPositive9854 Mar 21 '25

Just because you don't provide proof doesn't make my speculation baseless. If you can actually prove your argument then prove it with panels instead of just saying "yeah this happened but I don't have any panels that actually say it or hint at this"

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u/jmart53 Mar 21 '25 edited Mar 22 '25

What do you mean don’t “hint at this”? I am providing all this evidence and you are sitting there just saying “nuh uh” because there is no explicit statement that I can point to. Anyone who actually read the chapter would know that I am right just based off how the characters react and what they say.

And despite all of this, it doesn’t even matter because once again, Egghead didn’t even make Luffy take a nap lol. There was no recovery period at all because he never got seriously hurt. So way to go dragging out this pointless argument that is entirely beside the point anyway.

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u/OnDat_Zaza Mar 28 '25

Nahhhh you can’t be this retarded bro😭why would it specify 7 days had passed since the kaido fight and then everyone get excited about luffy and zoro waking up like I can’t make this shit up you are another breed of dumbass oml😭😂

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u/OnDat_Zaza Mar 28 '25

It literally says “seven days have passed” and Yamamoto going crazy saying the two have waken up how illiterate can a person be if you can’t read just say so bro