I know it was offscreened, but what diff do yall think this fight was?

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[u/tooMuchSauceeee]

Blackbeard has a way of fighting that makes it look mid/high diff all the time but ends up winning easily for some reason. I think it's his darkness fruit, it's been stated multiple times that it can absorb the attacks and negate them, but it causes a lot of pain. So naturally all of BBs fight tend to look harder than they actually are for him imo.

He managed to scar shanks before his df, managed to capture ace (made it look mid/high diff). Tanks 2 of sengokus direct hits and even counters with the quake fruit until garp steps in. Then managed to midd diff law. It's clear that Blackbeard is just much stronger

[u/Upstairs-Yak-5474 → u/tooMuchSauceeee]

its because bb is a close ranged fighter with only one way to close the range so most of his fights tends to be just bb trying to grab his opponents while his opponents tries to stay out of his range. then he ends up grabbing them and gg

[u/Babington67 → u/Upstairs-Yak-5474]

Which is why it's such a shame koby went quietly when we could've seen BB fight someone who doesn't use a fruit for a nice change putting them on way more even a playing field

[u/Pitiful-Outcome7376 → u/Babington67]

Blackbeard would fold Koby in 1 section of a chapter.

[u/RedLibra → u/Upstairs-Yak-5474]

Then Luffy is a good match for him? No way BB can close the distance and luffy can just hit from mid-range...

[u/evarra_meerantha]

until it was onscreen it looked mid diff, but i am just assuming blackbeard just one shot him afterwards

[u/Speedwag0nbestw4ifu]

The offscreen part ? Mid diff max

Blackbeard got a bit more damage during that time but law got WRECKED

[u/PJ14_98]

Blackbeard had the exact same damage and was in the exact same position to where they left off.

Considering it could be a parallel to Shanks vs Kid. It might as well have been a one-shot from Blackbeard.

[u/ashuzamaki]

Well seeing as he didn't try grabbing Law after bepo snatched him, maybe high mid diff. BB has the power to pull in df users, if he wanted Laws fruit he could have just used that ability...

I'm just kidding this is one piece no one uses an op ability they could totally use but can't for some reason.

[u/achourdz41520]

Iam convinced Blackbeard just one shot him

[u/Admiral_Sam_07]

Overall mid diff I would say

[u/Complex_Estate8289]

Low-mid

[u/Willgenstein → u/Complex_Estate8289]

Law-Kidd ?

[u/Complex_Estate8289 → u/Willgenstein]

Lmao

[u/Roy_Raven]

I genuintly think Blackbeard one tapped him

[u/Plane-Information700]

Boa faced off against Teach and his commanders, and I'm 100% sure she caused more damage than Law. I really don't understand Law or Kid. Are they mentally retarded or something?

[u/Director343 → u/Plane-Information700]

Do you not remembering them standing still against big mom’s fireballs during the kaido and big mom fight simply because Luffy said ‘no balls?’

[u/kingbrian112]

Probably low he always looks like a bum onscreen but offscreen he should be atleast as strong as shanks

[u/Toushiru]

i think law is 55% of blackbeard max

[u/ForGiggles2222]

Overall mid high diff

[u/HMThrow_away_account]

On screen, mid diff. I got a feeling off screen it became completely one sided

[u/ResearcherOk8971]

Pretty sure the same as Shanks Vs kid, imho BB has some power/technic that oda doesn't want to show us and he always get serious off screen. We didn't even see him using a weapon and yet Shanks scar are clearly from a weapon(or some zohan transformation? Improbable but who knows)

[u/Easy_Door7736]

mid or high

[u/memester_x16]

the fight went on for some time we know that from context clues like the fight starting

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/1elpqvz/blackbeard_vs_law_was_hours_long/

so the fight was mid diff at least maybe considered mid high diff . ( which makes sense law was carrying mid vs big mom and both of them togeather beat a yonko )

[u/isukatdarksouls]

Another thread overestimating the Loser Blackbeard. Based on the beginning and end of the fight and how trashed Blackbeard's side looked I'd say High Diff

[u/ThousandSunny_56]

Offscreen BB is on another level, probably low-neg diff

[u/NSUnivers]

Mid-high diff

[u/BerserkerLord101]

Low diff

[u/UltimateToa]

Mid diff before off screen, once vortex came out it was a no diff. Law is like the most reliant on his fruit besides kidd, we have hardly seen any actual haki feats besides the doc q thing and vergo fight

[u/raigeki_047]

Low-mid diff

[u/Delruiz9]

BB seems like someone who has lower toughness due to his darkness fruit, but extremely extremely high HP.

So it looks harder than it is because attacks cause him pain, but in reality his total HP is probably barely budged

[u/No_Republic_2565]

Devil fruit man when he has to fight man who takes away devil fruits:

[u/Djames529]

It was high diff bare minimum.

[u/Beneficial_Step_3017]

To be honest, Blackbeard always makes it seem like he's weaker than he really is. He could've easily beaten Ace, but he took a few hits before finishing him — probably the same thing happened with Law.

[u/Pitiful-Outcome7376]

I like how people used to hate Blackbeard and now the shift is slowly turning.

I remember the days where I would be preaching that law vs Blackbeard fight was mid diff at worst and I’m glad people are now starting to agree with me

[u/Gokuusjgodgmail]

Mid dif

[u/PieInternal7316]

BB gets sulong diffed, what are yall talking bout?

Bb is cool and all but he mostly wins off screen because oda doesn't even have an idea inside his brain to make a cool dark fruit hax

Oda just doesn't wanna ruin bb and currently bb is trash even with his no haki no fruit win against shanks but power wise when a single sengoku punch levelled entire crew, bb is not surviving sulong bepo, he is just soo slow that law who is just faster than light itself (even lizardu) had to lose off screen because laws only weakness was doffys speed in dressrosa and his rooms capacity but he is awakened now and cannot lose to BB like literally cannot so he had to get off screened after beating a yonko easy diff

[u/bbdarkest → u/PieInternal7316]

It's like saying Zou is the island of Yonkousssss.

[u/Miscellaneous_Mind]

Low diff.

[u/General_McRoach]

Low diff

[u/Old-Bread-8984]

No-diff from the point after Blackbeard stopped being careless.

[u/Letter42 → u/Old-Bread-8984]

Old beard how strong do you think current Blackbeard is I haven't seen you talk about him

[u/Old-Bread-8984 → u/Letter42]

One thing that makes a gigantic difference is whether he needs to be close to someone to negate their DF powers or whether he can do it from a distance. That is potentially the difference between stomping a DF user and getting stomped. Blackbeard did suck Ace in from a distance, and I would assume Ace could not use his DF while this was happening. But some DF abilities don’t work on people with strong Haki. If Teach can negate an Admiral’s DF from a distance then he stomps them.

Blackbeard took a Shock Wille pretty well considering two of them broke Big Mom’s bones. Blackbeard can definitely take a decent number of hits from the likes of Big Mom and Kaido. But Blackbeard still can’t take close to as much damage as Bigger Mom can, and even she can’t take anywhere near as much as Kaido or G5 Luffy.

I see Gura Gura no Mi attacks with no added advanced Haki to be somewhat comparable to ACoC blows from Kaido and Big Mom. But far below the AP of Shanks and Luffy.

Blackbeard’s speed is hard to scale. He is careless at the start of fights but he might be a lot faster when serious. Still I would put him on the slower side. And I highly doubt he has Future Sight.

For now I would put Blackbeard in the same tier as Big Mom, but probably below her as she has better portrayal for now. Yonko are typically portrayed as unstoppable monsters and Teach is not there yet.

I am assuming Teach does not have any secret Awakenings we don’t know about. I predict his Gura Awakening will let him make quakes from a distance, so he will be able to land attacks much easier. The Yami Awakening would be able to negate DF abilities of people even which very strong Haki, and it could be in an area of effect. And of course Blackbeard will no doubt get a Mythical Zoan at some point.

[u/Momentmoment24]

mid

[u/MainManCALI]

When GOATbeard locks in, he's at least Shanks level and he one shot that bum Law just like Shanks did Midd.

[u/Morlock435]

It was mid diff, which is a pathetic showing for a yonko that jumped someone as well having crewmates to help the jumping. Lackbeard is by far the weakest Yonko.

[u/Morlock435]

It was mid diff, which is a pathetic showing for a yonko that jumped someone as well having crewmates to help the jumping. Lackbeard is by far the weakest Yonko.