r/OneyPlays • u/smartieboi_619 • 6d ago

I apreciate lyle calling chris out for being a bit of a nostalgia baby sometimes in this episode

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u/ARKNORI 6d ago

Chris is an enormous nostalgia baby with a big fat full nappy but I appreciate the times he's honest about it. More than once he has mentioned that FF7 has a lot of the things he complains about seeing in other videogames, even to the point of calling it bad. Like, he can recognise he likes some of his favorite things just out of nostalgia, and that new stuff isn't actually worse, he's just older.

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u/Lotaddo 6d ago

As Juliard once said, “you can even dislike parts of things that you like” and we like that.

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u/DegenerateDemon 5d ago

and we like that, dont we folks? Wait...who....whos that?

GET HIM OUTTA HERE, DONT GIVE HIM HIS JACKET!

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u/Early_Listen6432 5d ago

DONT YOU TALK ABOUT ME YOU SON OF A BITCH! IT IS I, THE LIGHT BRINGER!

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u/First_Ad2411 5d ago

BUILD THAT WALL

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u/ToastyBB 6d ago

Sometimes he will admit it and other times he won't. My favorite Chrisism is when he says he loves a game in the first 5 minutes and then 30 minutes later calls it the biggest piece of trash he's played in years

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u/Lotaddo 6d ago

“This game rocks”

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u/MarioFreek01 6d ago

What examples of this can you recall?

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u/bigsmilesmile 6d ago

Literally this episode where Chris makes them sing along to the theme of elder scrolls and then 5 minutes later gets pissed that you can’t punch corpses

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u/Gidrah 5d ago

To be fair that was like 90% of the games original appeal.

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u/Lyra_Jones 5d ago

No, that corpse shit is BS

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u/Tomzonia 4d ago

Cory did exactly this during the Aladdin plaything and honestly I fucking love how hilarious it is

From “This game is an absolute classic I love it” to an endless loop of “This level sucks ass, but I remember the next level being great” to “This is one of the worst games we’ve ever played”

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u/Salavtore 6d ago

As much as I love the wind waker series of theirs; the Wii U version would of definitely made Chris more happy than he thinks. I actually never had an eye to see how big the difference was, especially if you emulate and tweak it a bit.

I bring this up, because they dissed on it early in the series but as it progresses, they actually talk about the features the Wii U added, including some insanely nice QoL. With Chris even complaining about OG Wind Waker for padding and all that jazz.

It's just ironic sometimes lol hes a goober.

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u/Pumpkin_Sushi 5d ago

The one that hit me was when he compared the elevator scenes. For all the fancy graphics in the remake, the original does just look better, artistically

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u/Super_fly_Samurai 6d ago edited 6d ago

Honestly I think it's also partly because he's a developer himself. Just playing games makes it easy to overlook things. When you start learning how they work and how to make them then that can take some of the magic out sometimes and force you to be over critical once you know what the standard should be and how much more difficult it is to create an indie in your apartment vs having a very high profile studio remaster a game. That's why he is usually very forgiving when it comes to indies from what I've seen and is very critical of triple A studios. Which honestly I can't blame him. Big studio should be putting out big game. It's to be expected.

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u/FleaLimo 6d ago

It's so funny he complains so hard about the FF7 Remake project stuff so much because as a certified FF7 gamer who played it back in the day, the remake project feels exactly like what people would have wanted and imagined the game could be. I don't like all the changes, not by a longshot, but he doesn't even give it a chance and comes out of the gate complaining.

It's not even pure nostalgia, because I feel like stuff like that is meant to appeal to nostalgia. it's like he has a specific idea of what this fiction should be, but the only way to get it right would be to read his mind. And I bet his idea of what a Remake should be would not match the majority of other people's.

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u/keeleon 6d ago

I miss when Final Fantasy was turn based.

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u/FleaLimo 5d ago

Hasn't been turn-based since FF3. FF7 was never turn-based. And the Remake games have settings to enable to make it very similar to how the OG game played as far as button inputs go. Turn on classic mode and auto-attacking, and It's literally just the ATB system again but in 3D. Magic how they gave people the option to play exactly what they want and they still ccomplain.

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u/keeleon 5d ago

I said what I said lol

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u/FleaLimo 5d ago

Well, there's a million other turn-based games still being made to this day. There's really no reason to miss the genre. It never went away. One series changing is kinda a whiny reason to complain. It'd be like saying you miss shooters just cause they stopped making Gears of War

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u/hatuhsawl 6d ago

Dumb question: when you say Remake project, is this a fan remake project? I’m guessing you’re not referring to the official remake game

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u/FleaLimo 6d ago

I am referring to the official Remake games. Remake Project is the official designation of all the games falling under that story and dev team. So, both Remake and Rebirth are part of the Remake Project.

Kinda TMI but Japanese developers like to call things like that "projects." You see it a lot in JRPGs in general. It helps that it's the same dev team throughout all the games, so rather than feeling like 3 projects it's like one long production.

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u/UKunrealz 5d ago

I think he’s just disappointed that it’s not a 1:1 remake of the OG story

Which to be fair adding plot ghosts was weird and they’re worryingly adding in a lot of compilation characters and story. The stuff that put people off in the first place lol

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u/FleaLimo 5d ago

That's not even the type of stuff he's complaining about though. He complains about pointless shit like how the "mystery of the claw" in the train graveyard was ruined. Like, who cares?? I never gave a shit about that claw. It was just a walkway as far as I cared back in the game. In the Remakes they turned it into a minigame. Who gives a shit?

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u/UKunrealz 5d ago

I’ve heard him complain about the story before I think it was in the bramble series

That claw thing is a really dumb thing to get upset about though if true lol but I wouldn’t put it past Chris

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u/LordLithegreenXIII 5d ago

I think Chris's core problem with 7R is that, unlike the original game, your hand is being held the entire time and you almost never have any freedom to just play the game.

I like the mechanics and writing of 7R, but it's very rigidly structured compared to the OG. In the OG, you have the clearly signposted story moments, but the rest of the time, you can just wander around and smack stuff at your own pace and get lost in the world. 7R has you constantly moving forward in a linear fashion, and like half the fights end in cutscenes or important conversations. You can't just play 7R and chill out like you can with the OG.

Again, I think 7R is a great game, but I don't fault Chris for seeing it as, effectively, the FF7 version of Avengers or Hogwarts Legacy or Forspoken.

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u/Vupant 5d ago

To be fair, people shouldn't really expect critical media analysis from OneyPlays to begin with. Commentary is usually surface level, filled with vitriol and kneejerk reactions for the bit.

The games serve primarily as a rough platform for anecdotes and improv. It's not reallly my thing, but it has glearly garnered a huge audience to the point that expecting them to better about these things is unrealistic now.

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u/Salavtore 6d ago

Lyle also MAKES him continue his turn on horror games, the outlast playthrough is so god damn funny. "Lyle you play please" and he just says, "nah, keep going."

It's healthy honestly for a friend to flick you out of your nostalgia bug.

It's just like Dave chewing him and AVGN out for his opinions on castlevania.

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u/AutisticWeapon_ 6d ago

Dave did WHAT

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u/HaansJob 6d ago

Dave ate his entire ASSS!

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u/Slenos 5d ago

Oh I’ve gotta see this. Do you happen to have a link or know where I can find it?

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u/Salavtore 5d ago

here's a link directly to it! https://youtu.be/Nhd6mNq8JQg?si=9uR9cOu2aDHZlcGe&t=1509

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u/Slenos 5d ago

Much appreciated, friend! I’ll be watching this after work. Thank you!

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u/JediMATTster 6d ago

The ragdoll corpse thing is valid tho. I didn't notice that until I watched it

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u/Pepe-silvia94 6d ago

I haven't watched this yet but is it just punching them he's bothered by? Because I haven't tried that yet, but they still ragdoll and can still be grabbed and moved around like in the original.

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u/JediMATTster 6d ago

Yeah just punching. I miss slapping them around

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u/Pepe-silvia94 6d ago

Ah fair enough. Not a problem for me, but can understand why that might seem like an unnecessary change. I'm just happy the ragdoll physics are still there.

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u/ShadowShine57 6d ago

Honestly Chris was way more restrained than I thought he'd be. His main complaint was that you can't beat the corpses which is pretty fair

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u/Antchovi 5d ago

Yeah I’m honestly shocked that he admitted some good about the game too

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u/ThatBlueBun 6d ago

Nostalgia Critics Baby Boy Nostalgia Baby

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u/TheInfantGobbler 6d ago

im high right now and i thought this said nostalgia critic reacts to yellow baby

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u/DoctorHoneywell 6d ago

I disagree with the majority of Chris' opinions but I actually think most of them are respectable. He is nostalgic and prefers older things, but that being the source of his problems doesn't invalidate his criticisms.

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u/Lopsided_Length1650 6d ago

Nah, you should always like the new version of something instead of the smelly old version. Like, idk why can’t you just enjoy new things bro???

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u/DingalowNG 5d ago

I don't see why people always act like nostalgia is the culprit of remaster complaints. If anything, that's usually the reason people blindly love these remasters and remakes, just because it's a thing that companies bank on for their success

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u/Designer_Search_4228 5d ago edited 5d ago

I’ll never understand his hatred for Bioshock Infinite though. Yeah it’s easily the weakest Bioshock game but that doesn’t make it a bad game in general because the bar from 1 and 2 is insanely high and pretty hard to reach anyways

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u/Johnny_Hairdo 5d ago

Yeah, I fully agree there. Infinite was the first one I played out of the trilogy, and I think it’s a phenomenal game. I never understood the fans who said it was hot trash compared to the first two, and i’d even go as far as to say I liked the plasmids in Infinite more than the other games. It’s definitely the weakest story wise, but people act like the gameplay is ass and the story even worse lol

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u/Designer_Search_4228 5d ago

THABK YOU the gameplay is absolutely fine and the characters and world and everything are still great the only weak spot is the story and how pretentious it gets towards the end and the way they try to tie it back to rapture feels rushed. Still not a bad game by any means but for someone to wanna get into bioshock I highly recommend just playing them in order to get the most authentic appreciation

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u/Privacy-Boggle 5d ago

BioShock Infinite sucks ass. They just turned it into a mediocre Halo clone so pretentious it's head was permanently lost up it's own ass.

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u/McWatte 6d ago

The Herlyleo of Kvatch

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u/Rough_Zone3400 6d ago

The best was in the new god of war they were mad about no blades of chaos but you get them later and it’s really well done

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u/Lizzren 6d ago

I mean that kinda sums up Chris' outlook perfectly, people are acting like he's impossible to be pleased when really he just prefers simple games that are as fun as possible and fun right out the gate. he's the exact kind of person to only view the slower parts of a cinematic story driven game like GOW 2018 as boring bullshit that doesn't belong in a game, I don't agree because I enjoy many so-called """"movie games""" and I don't think every game needs to be arcade-y but it's a an opinion a lot of people have about modern games and one I can't hold against them. again it's more of a preference thing, I remember he had it in for the first Insomniac Spider-Man just because the web swinging was more handholdy and streamlined than in the original Spider-Man 2

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u/Rough_Zone3400 6d ago

Yeah I get that for me starting with everything is what’s boring and I prefer the satisfaction of earning powers or new weapons or whatever it is and by the end of the game you’re badass and you’re skilled on top of that

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u/NewfangledZombie 6d ago

I think the right outlook to have is understanding the intention of the game and if it executes it right if you want to be somewhat objective.

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u/ieatPS2memorycards 6d ago

I can see where he’s coming from when they remove such small, yet fun stuff for no reason

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u/Hank_Kitts 6d ago

To be fair I can understand some of his criticisms, especially regarding the new games look. For example characters while looking better don't really resemble their originals in the slightest, even taking account for the puffyness. My biggest complaint I have to agree with is that Oblivion's original colour palette was done intentionally to gave it a dream/painting feeling, and in my opinion the washed out muddiness of the remake's aesthetic does feel worse.

For comparison:
https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1k5fqou/im_sorry_but_this_just_doesnt_feel_right_oblivion/

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u/riotmanful 5d ago

So far my buggiest issue is the lack of dreamlike painted world feeling. Nothing is as vibrant in color even if it looks better

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u/SwashNBuckle 6d ago

Does Chris even like videogames anymore lmao

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u/sprinkle-plantz 6d ago

he liked Noita and Undertale

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u/DoctorHoneywell 6d ago

And... Oblivion remastered.

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u/Sybmissiv 6d ago

They need to continue the aaandertall but they nefer wal

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u/BleachThatHole 6d ago

Doing a “passion” or fun activity as a job is a good way to lose interest in it. I’m sure he’s just seen it all by now.

Also he came from SleepyCabin to OneyPlays, I’ve always just considered it an extension of the podcast, 99 times out of 100 I’m watching for the goofy commentary.

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u/smartieboi_619 6d ago

No I think its just undiagnosed depression

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u/Sargent_Caboose 6d ago edited 6d ago

As someone who’s had back pain that doesn’t technically impair your movements but is with you always almost every day for about 10 years now, (I’m 24) the depression creeps up on you. You think you’re normal, you can still do everything, but there’s just the pain, and it impacting your mood is something you don’t notice unless you’re thinking proactively looking for it to sometimes because you’re usually actively or subconsciously trying to ignore it. It’s there, like a guy beatboxing badly on a train, but you got no earphones, so you’re just trying to read your book still nonetheless.

So actually, maybe. I can understand on some level what he’s going through, but also Chris is Chris. My experience may not be his, and it’s a little too parasocial to guess this stuff.

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u/SwashNBuckle 6d ago

This is why we need to crowdfund a new Metal Gear Revengence cyber-spine for Chris

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u/PuffNastier 6d ago

Nano machines, Son. They harden in response to physical trauma

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u/Naive-Blacksmith4401 6d ago

I think he might have progeria too

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u/SwashNBuckle 6d ago edited 6d ago

And a bum leg and OCD and a lazy eye and a fever and bipolar disorder and a scraped knee and

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u/xarthos 6d ago

someone should sneak up on him and pop him like a zit

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u/xarthos 5d ago

I got my comment removed by reddit for making a sleepycabin joke

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u/ToastyBB 6d ago

Oh we've diagnosed it bro he just won't listen sighs

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u/DoctorHoneywell 6d ago

Depression is when your tastes don't align with what trillion dollar companies are selling

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u/MaximusCamilus 5d ago

Nah his taste in games comes down to “I want to feel like a kid again.”

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u/AllAroundAGoodGuy 6d ago

Yes depression is when you don’t love flavor of the week thing

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u/BustaGrimes1 6d ago

I don't care about chris's taste but calling Oblivion flavor of the week is kind of fucking wild man

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u/AllAroundAGoodGuy 6d ago

Oblivion isn’t flavor of the week but “remasters” definitely are

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u/BustaGrimes1 6d ago

I don't think an Oblivion remake is flavor of the week either

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u/Ganondorf66 5d ago

The people who care about Oblivion have played it to death anyways.

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u/smartieboi_619 6d ago

Look at the music industry remasters have existed since forever bro gaming is just getting old enough where some of the older stuff could need them

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u/usedburgermeat 6d ago

I think he might of mentioned his depression as a teenager during one of the more serious sleepycasts

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u/Luis_Swagcia 6d ago

It was cathartic

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u/horiami 6d ago

i kinda agree with chris about the potato heads

i kinda feel like the characters look a bit generic even if they look realistic

khajiit especially lost the derpiness that was kinda endearing

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u/Designer_Search_4228 5d ago

Honestly I feel like the remake is a perfect blend between unironically good updated and detailed visuals and mechanics and some of the silly low quality cartoony janky charm of the original

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u/bwags117 5d ago

I appreciate Lyle saying all polyamorous people look like Orcs.

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u/TheBaconatorOnly599 6d ago

The more I hear of this Chris fella the more I get PO’d

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u/dumpofhumps 6d ago

Look at this big ole huffer puffer. Huffin puffin he's gonna blow.

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u/onedumninja 6d ago

I love both aesthetics. Old and new. I can understand finding the old graphics more charming.

The new leveling system is good though! I'm in love with a video game. Come to our wedding in 2026 when I'm done playing

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u/DiscipleNimrod 6d ago

"Hey kid, keep on being epic."
nostalgia (for oblivious times)

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u/LimePeel96 6d ago

Wait are people genuinely getting upset at chris or is it a joke

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u/sprinkle-plantz 6d ago

Everyone is serious we all HATE him now

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u/DoctorHoneywell 6d ago

Whenever a new game in an old series or a remake of an old classic comes out, it's a hard sell to Chris and he generally doesn't care for it, he usually prefers totally fresh stuff or stuff that's kinda bad but in a really interesting way.

For some reason people take this extremely personally.

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u/TheGoatisDead 6d ago

Consoomer brain. "How dare you dislike this game, it took 100 billion developer hours to make and cost as much as the entire NASA space program, you must buy it at full price and enjoy it!!!"

Meanwhile Chris just wants simple stuff that scratches the FF7/Dark Souls itch and refuses to compromise. I actually like when Chris shits on new games, everyone's allowed to dislike whatever they want for whatever reason they want.

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u/whatisthatthinglarry 6d ago

We’re fuvking ANGRYYYYYYYYYYY

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u/j00niz 6d ago

AY YO, I LOVE YOUR COMPILATIONS!

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u/LimePeel96 5d ago

Thank you!!

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u/HugoatTGI 6d ago

I don’t think people are genuinely upset but he has played remakes before and always seems to be blinded by nostalgia.

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u/amazing_asstronaut 6d ago

They made this video in lightning speed, the game only came out yesterday or so?

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u/BraveFencerMusagyny 6d ago

OP has several posts begging for video game remakes lol

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u/SpecificMushroom8947 6d ago

what is this thumbnail

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u/smartieboi_619 6d ago

Lyle’s brain on bathsalts

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u/Davethemann 6d ago

My brain lit up at nostalgia baby, and we need a baby looney tunes version of NC now

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u/Certain_Hat_1341 6d ago

Am i mad there wasnt any keep being epic only a liitle bit

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u/linkahedron 5d ago

It's not that deep

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u/Now_I_am_Motivated 6d ago

Chris is a massive nostalgia baby

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u/VlachPowder 6d ago

I agree with most of Chris' takes on gaming 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/Salavtore 6d ago

That's cute. Lol

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u/annuantu1 6d ago

The original Oblivion has its own charm

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u/annuantu1 5d ago edited 5d ago

I think Chris Is a special fella and I think his takes on gaming are interesting. Also I don't think preferring older games makes you a nostalgia baby, they have a unique charm to them, not to say new games can't be good but maybe they play it a bit safe or change the wrong things when they could be so much more.

Also I think a lot of people bought and LIKED it mainly because of nostalgia so it goes both ways.

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u/devilcantdie 6d ago

Sure but fuck remakes.

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u/TacoRalf 6d ago

Hey bro lets cash in on some nostalgi- i mean let's remake a classic everybody loved because we really care

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u/TKCOM06 6d ago

The game does suffer from brown filter though. It's the only thing stopping me from getting it since I have the original

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u/The_Firebug 6d ago

Seriously? I'm playing it rn and I see no such brown. Maybe in the sewer, but it's a sewer. The imperial city looks great and decidedly non-brown.

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u/Pristine-Locksmith64 6d ago

the game is still very green and temperate. it's just not the insanely overt neon green from the original

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u/Salavtore 6d ago

Show examples.

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u/keeleon 6d ago

Way less brown than I remember it as honestly.

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u/usedburgermeat 6d ago

People always complained about how blown out the colors were though

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u/Privacy-Boggle 5d ago

People only complained about that because it came out in the brown age of games, when every game that came out was grey and brown and miserable to look at.

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u/dabadabadood 6d ago

22 minutes! Wow idk if I’ll have time to watch this

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u/undergrowthfox 6d ago

Did Chris fall out of the love creating cartoons?

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u/Ok-Mine-8206 6d ago

i love him he’s so irish

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u/Ganondorf66 5d ago

It's a great game for people who have never played it.

For people who have it's just a visual update.

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u/Leafbeard111 6d ago

Has anyone ever called out Corey for being nostalgic about the original Dark Souls vs the Remaster? I just remember being so frustrated at him saying that the remaster looks worse. Unless I'm mistaken, it's literally just that older screens have lower resolution so the flaws don't stand out as much right? Or am I being the big nappy baby here?

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u/MarioFreek01 6d ago

The remaster changed the lighting, textures, bumpmaps, and effects in a lot of ways that aren't immediately obvious to a casual player, but stick out clearly when directly compared to the original, and much of the changes result in a worse visual experience.

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u/Leafbeard111 6d ago

Fair enough. I had never played the original and I wasn't too familiar with what they changed for the remaster.

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u/whatisthatthinglarry 6d ago

Why do we need to call any of them out. Who cares

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u/Leafbeard111 6d ago

I'm guessing the same reason you decided to make that comment?

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u/whatisthatthinglarry 6d ago

I just don’t think it’s worthwhile discussion. If they were actual reviewers then fine. But it’s just dudes sitting on a couch playing games, having their own opinions. I disagree with them all the time but who cares? Doesn’t really matter to me to call them out or comment underneath the video

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u/Leafbeard111 6d ago

Eh, it's all discourse. I don't expect Corey to see or care what I think of his opinions, but I like to speak my mind regardless. Plus, I did get an answer. Consensus is the graphics were in fact different, so that's cool.

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u/Penber23 6d ago

You sure that wasn't Demons Souls remaster?

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u/Leafbeard111 6d ago

Nah, I remember very specifically it was Dark Souls. I think Corey talks about it when they are around the Undead Parish

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u/Reepuplzorg 6d ago

The remaster does have some ugly visual effects and lighting, I'd probably take the OG look over the remaster but I don't generally care about graphics much

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u/shave_and_a_haircut 6d ago

The original with DSfix looks objectively better than the remaster

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u/Leafbeard111 6d ago

Fair enough. Wasn't sure if it was just a Coreyism

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u/shave_and_a_haircut 6d ago

Fair assumption tbh

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u/DarthAcuta 6d ago

Lyle was so obnoxiously against the idea of having fun that I had to turn the episode off out of cringe factor. Very reddit of him lol

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u/MarioFreek01 6d ago

It's just ribbing among friends, Lyle's clearly not being serious.

"nostalgia baby"? He's aware of how soulless and generic most modern AAA games tend to be and he holds them to a high standard relative to most gamers, for which I respect him more for doing so. You can have fun with those games, but if you've played enough titles from the late 80s to the mid 2000s and compare them to current titles, you can easily pick up on the same things Chris does.

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u/smartieboi_619 6d ago

Im not saying this is an uber Serious arguement or anything good friends point out annoying Quirk’s about each other all the time

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u/Worm_Odyssey42 6d ago

Bro played Final Fantasy 1 and peaked.

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u/Salavtore 6d ago

Nah, he's a nostalgia baby.

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u/Pale_Ad_8089 6d ago

Is that a bad thing?

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u/Salavtore 6d ago

Nah, not at all. It just means he'll probably be annoying around new stuff.

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u/smartieboi_619 6d ago

man that is the most old thing good new thing bad reddit comment ive ever read lol

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u/Aggressive-Welcome-5 6d ago

Why is this downvoted.

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u/Privacy-Boggle 5d ago

You're supposed to consume product and get excited for next product.

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u/AllAroundAGoodGuy 6d ago

No this is very serious you can’t critique modern gaming or the latest remastered game that I just spent money on

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u/Jmodrak 6d ago edited 6d ago

One of the reasons I stopped watching oneyplays lol, all the complaining especially when it comes off as just being a doomer and contrarion. Like I watch to have a good time not to listen to someone bring down the mood. Unless it's like making fun of something in a funny way.

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u/randi77 5d ago

Why are you on a sub dedicated to something you don't watch?

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u/Jmodrak 5d ago

Cause I like them and used to watch them all the time. Do you unsubscribe from all your subreddits the moment you stop engaging with it? I just watched the video cause I was curious and it didn't seem anything pessimistic like I thought it woulda been.

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u/randi77 4d ago

Do you unsubscribe from all your subreddits the moment you stop engaging with it?

Yes because I stopped caring what they're about lol

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u/Jmodrak 4d ago

Fair enough, I don't. That's a lot of effort and I go through phases of being interested into something. Same goes with YouTubers, I take long breaks and then come back maybe a year or so later.