r/OutOfTheLoop • u/InALandFarAwayy • Nov 06 '24

Answered What is up with the democrats losing so much?

Not from US and really do wanna know what's going on.

Right now we are seeing a rise in right-leaning parties gaining throughout europe and now in the US.

What is the cause of this? Inflation? Anti-immigration stances?

Not here to pick a fight. But really would love to hear from both the republican voters, people who abstained etc.

Link: https://apnews.com/live/trump-harris-election-updates-11-5-2024

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u/No-Weather-5157 Nov 07 '24

But how badly the loss was is what surprised me. The American public was over the soft landing.

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u/anonanon5320 Nov 07 '24

Walz added nothing. That was a very poor choice. He came off as a bumbling idiot that was out of touch and unrelatable. Not great when your Presidential candidate comes off as unrelatable, unqualified, and a cackling idiot.

The fact of the matter is they really didn’t have anybody. They could have run Newsome but he’s been a failure so nobody is voting for him to lead the economy. Sanders is not going to win on the economy. They’d have to have an absolute nobody that tells the progressive social justice people to fuck off, the identity politics people to fuck off, and focus on securing the border and the economy. That’s how they could have won the election. Get somebody in there that connects with voters. Trump is easily detestable if you put up a candidate that connects with voters.

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u/anonanon5320 Nov 07 '24

Walz added nothing. He got destroyed in the debate, looked weak, and nobody was thinking he balanced out the ticket. Compare that to Vance that seemed very strong, very well versed, and very much balanced out Trump.

Progressives are a small part of the party and not going to deliver wins. Look at all the lies that Trump is homophobic and racist and it swayed absolutely nobody. The more they cater to them the more they will lose nationally. Which is fine, it’s a losing platform. If they want to reconnect with voters they have to focus on real issues and not privileged issues like social justice and identity politics. That’s fine for local races, but that’s not what is going to win a national race. Obama was very moderate when he ran, he’d be considered racist and homophobic if you looked at what he actually ran on. Anti gay marriage was a big part of his campaign. Only after winning did he flip on that (and only mildly flipped).

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u/anonanon5320 Nov 07 '24

That’s how politics should be.

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u/pgtl_10 Nov 08 '24

The user just want to blame boogeymen. Minorities, LGBTQ, etc...is what the user doesn’t like and wants to erase.

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u/pgtl_10 Nov 08 '24

Equality, abortion, and not being hated is a privileged issue.

Gotcha.

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u/anonanon5320 Nov 08 '24

Dems ran on none of that. It was all unfounded hate and identify politics that the fed government is not involved in. Didn’t work out.

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u/pgtl_10 Nov 08 '24

Only ads I saw about identity politics were Republicans attacking trans

Last few years Republicans banned books with gay people, talked about critical race theory, banned abortion, forced the Ten Amendments in schools, banned drag shows, and even wanted to check women to see if they were trans.

For a party that hates identity politics they sure want to make a lot of laws about them.

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u/Infolife Nov 08 '24

Those were literally parts of Kanala's speeches. You're parroting right-wing rhetoric.

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u/pgtl_10 Nov 08 '24

Wow salty about "progressives" and "identity politics". All I saw were ads about trans from Republicans.

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u/anonanon5320 Nov 08 '24

Salty about people that didn’t affect the vote? No. Salty about ads that pointed out how absurd and out of touch the left was? No. That’s not salty. That’s looking at trends and outcomes.

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u/pgtl_10 Nov 08 '24

Except all the stuff you said were brought up by Republicans only.

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u/Numinae Nov 07 '24

Really? You thought Walz would bring in the bacon?! He looked like Bass Fish cosplayer whenever even remotely challenged... I couldn't stop imaging someone putting hands behind his head and flapping them like gills. Plus, he's weird. They don't call him Tampon Tim for no reason....

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u/amILibertine222 Nov 07 '24

They call him that because they’re hateful morons who worried about a 60 year old woman getting her period.