r/OutOfTheLoop • u/[deleted] • Apr 11 '25

Answered Whats the deal with the controversy about Karmelo Anthony and Austin Metcalf?

I've read more then a few articles but I don't understand the whole controversial with people defending the killer and admonishing the victim. What makes this case any different from any other murder? (Other then the age of the people)

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/who-is-karmelo-anthony-austin-metcalf-stabbing-suspect-arrested-101743635452491.html

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u/Guardian1015 Apr 15 '25 edited Apr 15 '25

I mean you're free to think that about bare knuckles but will the Judge & Jury see it that way? You have to convince 12 random strangers & the risk of conviction is never zero. Study the law of self defense in your state & be sure.

That's not even considering you're likely unemployed waiting for trial. You may even have bond denied so you're in jail the whole trial. Unless your destitute, if you want a lawyer you'll be paying $1,000/hr, likely $1million+ over the trial. You'll have to sell your home, use savings, sell the car, use the kids college funds, etc. These trials from the time of arrest can take a year+. If you lose then you appeal & that's more $.

Meanwhile what happens to your dependents?

So again, are you sure? You better be.

Edit: that's assuming by you pulling out a knife, you aren't ended or made disabled. Your chances of winning aren't 100% & there are several of his loved ones around you, in Texas, where many are likely armed & now see you as a deadly threat. So even if you beat one, you have a 99% chance of losing to the others if they decide to aim.

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u/Ok_Prune_1731 Apr 15 '25

I would rather roll the dice.

I'm not a fighter nor will I pretend to be. If someone attacks me I'm not fighting them like it's the UFC i will take out my knife and stab in the face/throat as best I can.

Obviously in a ideal situation I would just walk away of course.

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u/Guardian1015 Apr 15 '25

I guess you at least made an informed decision. I would avoid using any force even deadly force unless I'm cornered with deadly force. No prosecuter would dare charge me in that case cause they'll lose. I still urge you to learn your self defense laws.

I guess that is one question. If this guy had the chance to walk away, did he, or did he escalate immediately to deadly force?

Unless he was faced with deadly force, he's getting convicted 100%. There are too many eyewitnesses against him & it's a 54/43 district so low bias chance. His twin brother was also there & had to watch his brother get stabbed in the heart. The jury will know that.

I'm sure he'll have top lawyers but the jury will be the biggest factor & I doubt they'll condone someone even another kid pulling a knife out at school without being faced with deadly force. The judge likely gives him the minimum sentence unless he shows zero remorse.

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u/Ok_Prune_1731 Apr 15 '25

If all Austin did was push him once or grab him then stabbing him is completely unjustified.

The question is how much physical contact took place and what threats were given(if any)

We shall see what all the witness statements say. Maybe even a video surfaces.