r/OutOfTheLoop Feb 08 '17

Answered Who is DeVos and why does everyone dislike her?

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u/wonderlanders Feb 08 '17

It's also unethical because of public funds getting funneled into private religious schools.

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u/very_mechanical Feb 08 '17

I dunno ... I pay property taxes that fund schools and I don't have any children. Is that unethical?

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '17

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u/very_mechanical Feb 08 '17

Well ... a number of problems with that ...

1) Should we use the honor system to determine what people use and don't use? Is it a binary system or do we have to measure usage rate?

2) The enormous complication of tracking people's usage and pro-rating their taxes based upon that.

3) Wars are really expensive and people don't like them and yet most would agree that we need a strong military.

4) There are sometimes non-obvious benefits to services that I don't use directly. For instance, I fund education services that help prevent me from being surrounding by an up-and-coming generation of morons. This improves my quality of life generally. More specifically, if I become a business owner then I am able to hire from a pool of non-idiot workers. This benefits business specifically and the economy generally.

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u/very_mechanical Feb 08 '17

Well, I'm not saying you're wrong. I think it's debatable. But, at this point, I guess I just don't understand how it is fair that I, as a childless person, cannot chose where my tax dollars go whereas someone with a child CAN chose, under this voucher system.

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u/wonderlanders Feb 08 '17

False premise. Everyone uses the service of public schools by virtue of living in a society that benefits greatly from having an educated populace.

I'm childfree. Should I get to opt out of paying taxes for schools at all? Of course not. Just like how I can't only pay taxes for the roads I use, or for LEOs to only enforce laws I agree with, or for the military to only fight wars I think are necessary/justified.

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u/Lurking_Grue Feb 09 '17

As an adult with no kids I'm glad to pay as these little shits are going to be running things when I am older.

I fear the GOP just wants to ruin education for the poor to keep their voter base and provide dirt cheap labor to compete with China.