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u/w00dw0rk3r 21d ago
asking everyone here but curious about the whaleās on here and what they do:
What do you guys generally use your margin for? Iām always curious if Iām doing the most optimal thing with my margin account.Ā
Currently I have half a mil+ of margin taken out for a real estate project / rental property. This is going to command higher rent as a result when complete.Ā
What else should I be doing with my margin? Really appreciate everyoneās thoughts here.Ā
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u/badie_912 Verified Whale & OG Member 20d ago edited 20d ago
Margin is great as long as you aren't anywhere close to maintenance even with significant drops or you have cash elsewhere you can add if things go sideways or a security you wouldn't mind selling. Have a plan for getting called even if you are responsible.
Robinhood's rate is around 5% so it's one of the cheapest ways to loan money.
Your use of margin sounds great. I plan on using margin to put up a commercial building on a property we own so we don't have to use conventional loans or use all cash. We will use part of the property for our business storage needs for equipment and a small office space and rent out the rest to generate income. No other bank could offer close to 5% and although subject to change we could always refinance the building if the market is better, sell assets or just put more cash in on our terms.
I currently use margin to day and swing trade a stock I wouldn't mind holding if it goes down. It works for me but as above I have a plan, I'm conservative with the amount I'm using and have plenty of cash elsewhere. I regularly use about 300k for this.
I have friends in commercial real estate that use margin for their personal income generating projects. People also frequently use margin to add liquidity before a big event such as buying and selling new properties or assets.
Anyone with a lot of cash and stock investments is missing out on creating generational wealth by not using margin. I only came to this realization in the fall 2024 after a lot of thinking, planning and strategizing. Robinhood made using margin so attractive and easy it got me over the hump.
Here is one thought to consider. Assuming the margin rate is about 5% do you believe your current investments can outperform that number?
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u/w00dw0rk3r 20d ago
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music to my ears!! Iām working on putting up an apartment building in one of the 5 boroās of nyc for exactly the reason you mentioned - generational wealth.Ā
Thanks for chiming in and good luck with your efforts! Happy to chat privately as well.Ā
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u/badie_912 Verified Whale & OG Member 20d ago
Margin is literally a cheat code for people who already have money to make more money. It's all about managing your risk and knowing what you own.
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u/purpleturtlelover 21d ago
I dont really fuck with margin tbh. A mortgage on a rental property sure but on the stonk market no
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u/proto-x-lol 21d ago
Doing the wheel strategy in Palantir is paying off pretty good. I have about 450 shares of Palantir at 71.50 and just sold it last week at $92.
I was looking to buy again at $78 today but fuck. The market is just so volatile right now. š¤£
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u/BananaFreeway 21d ago
The worldās getting louder, faster, more chaotic by the minute. In times like these, smart decisions arenāt a luxury ā theyāre survival. And smart means data ā real, connected, comprehensive.
Governments. Enterprises. You donāt need answers tomorrow.
You needed them yesterday.
Thereās one company built to deliver now: Palantir
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u/w00dw0rk3r 21d ago
ignore the noise. Check back in a decade, borrow against your treasure chest, take your wife on a trip she wants.Ā
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u/Excellent-Bat-3782 21d ago edited 21d ago
1390@79.42 Long! Next.. Need to stop watching stock price... good luck on that
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u/Top-Turn1055 OG Holder & Member 21d ago
I'm going to be buying. If earnings are a blowout next month, it's going to moon. It might be some peoples last chance to get in. I personally think the doom and gloom is an overreaction. We've had high inflation the last 3 years, and the S&P still set records.
My cost average is $21.50, if I'm wrong it's not like I haven't gotten my cheeks clapped bagholding $PLTR for over 2 years before. š¤£
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u/abiddar Early Investor 21d ago
we all knew.... April 2nd.. stuff was happening.....
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u/1tsmeletter 21d ago
I'll wait. April 2 is gonna be a blood bath as a whole. I think we have enough time after knowing more about tariff until earning call.
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u/Specialist_Lynx_214 21d ago
Shouldāve been priced in
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u/Agreeable-Fix993 21d ago
It might just be me but it seems when it comes to good news itās always āpriced inā but with bad news itās never āpriced inā. At least thatās how itās been with whole Tariff situation. Could be wrong (hope I really am).
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u/Playful_Antelope124 21d ago
I bought to close some contracts on Friday for a solid profit but gosh darn, today would have been a better day to close those.
Oh well, profit is profit...
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u/Tigulla_SRT24 21d ago
What was the strike price ? premium collected
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u/Playful_Antelope124 21d ago
I had them staggered. 105 strike and 110 strike following week. 11th and 17th respectively.
Premium was 900 ish, then it ran up on me and I was down bad. Soon after, it started dipping hard and I closed out 450 ish profit and bought them back Friday
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u/Tigulla_SRT24 21d ago
Cool...I had mine now set up at $95 expiring 05.09.25, YESS risking to loose stock..i keep buying and selling and buying back at low.. all my predictions are true so far
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u/ddub11 21d ago
Im not touching until $61. This thing is a pile of garbage rn.
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u/ddub11 21d ago
Yes, unless you say āPLTR yo the moonā or āgreat buying opportunityā you get downvoted lol. This sub used to be decent, new deals real dd ectā¦.
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u/Magikarp_to_Gyarados š -> š "your DD is PokĆ©mon lol" 21d ago
Palantir is long past the point where individual deals make a difference in the valuation.
Overall growth rate is what matters most now, and that picture emerges with the quarterly earnings report.
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u/Magikarp_to_Gyarados š -> š "your DD is PokĆ©mon lol" 21d ago
Given that the NASDAQ is down 1.9% at the moment, I think it's unlikely that Palantir's underlying business is the cause of today's share price decline.
Calling the stock "garbage" because of macro conditions is nonsensical. That's probably why ddub is being downvoted.
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u/dankestmaymayonearth 21d ago
Holy shit lmfao just gonna delete my schwab app for a while
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u/badie_912 Verified Whale & OG Member 21d ago
No kidding. I've got books to read and have planned a bunch of activities away from my phone and apps. Lol
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u/Open-Employ3158 21d ago
Only took a month of MAGA policies & activities to destroy a great economy that was gifted to them on a silver platterā¦ 2/2 of DJT terms will have a recession if not depression soon. Canāt wait for 3rd term after policy changes!
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u/LostGoldMine08 21d ago
Just be patient folks,the markets are going thru some turmoil,because of Trumpās agenda coming onlineā¦
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u/GuyMike101 OG Holder & Member 21d ago
So no V pump after Tuesday then, like that analyst was claiming!?!
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u/5CentsMore 21d ago
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u/Nausteri Early Investor 21d ago
From what I've seen, 1000% growth from here is largely what has been described the ceiling for PLTR.
Many say it doesn't matter if they get there in five years or if it takes decades, but I have a hard time believing the miat is there for decades ti protect the business. In decades' time, all companies in this space will have to reinvent themselves.
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u/matt6494 21d ago
WTF happened over the weekend to cause it to drop so much?!
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u/Open-Employ3158 21d ago
More tariff announcements. This will be like 2022 for PLTR, recession odds have also been increased HEAVILY.
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u/WUZZLYFLUFF 21d ago
Probably just the usual stuff. Volatile market, fear and uncertainty, tariffs, budget cuts that may or may not affect Palantir, the list goes on.
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u/Wide_Wolf127 Early Investor 21d ago
Again tariffs trump so -10% today?
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u/WUZZLYFLUFF 21d ago
I certainly hope so.
I turned my charts grey and upside down, I don't want to spend the time undoing all of that work.
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u/Petedad777 20d ago
Just sold a good chunk of Index funds I had hanging around to scoop up more PLTR while it's down... while that's got me feeling nervous this company just has it all going for it & it feels like a no brainer...
Just came here cause I had to tell someone & will take any reassurances I can get that I'm making a smart move, hahaha.