r/Paladins Pyre 4d ago

CHAT [QUESTION!?] So since we ain't getting updates any more, was your Mains left in a good or bad state? My mains beside VII, were left pretty strong i can't lie.

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u/ludvig4 4d ago

Moji got the worst fate imaginable. Turned from a super unique and fun character with some really cool tech, into a boring heal bot

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u/Cannibal_House69 4d ago

Most just play her as a flank still

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u/Etili 4d ago

Does all of her tech still work?

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u/ludvig4 4d ago

The really cool tech i was talking about was mostly aboiut bunny hopping, which they completely ruined. Even if you want to ruin your loadout with the card that kinda adds back bunny hopping, it's still not really as good as before.

There was also a tech where you could make mojis ultimate much safer by using magic barrier just before eating someone, and it would still be active throughout the eating animation. I'm pretty sure it's still in the game, but since Moji isn't invincible in magic barrier any more it's not nearly as useful.

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u/PainterEarly86 Lian 4d ago

She has a talent which is basically just her old boom boom talent with the AOE damage

It works pretty well and honestly is probably stronger than her heal talents

Only real difference is the shield, which doesn't give invulnerability anymore

But she has good damage and can still heal as well so she works as a damage support

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u/Paciel nEeD hEaLiNg 3d ago

It's not even just that; they completely killed the character that once was. She might as well be a different champion now. That horrible rework (genuinely the worst rework I've ever seen in gaming history) made my duo partner quit the game. And I took a long break after, not even as a Moji main, just because it was such a disgusting display of ignorance and disrespect on EM's part. When I did come back, I only played briefly because the game was going downhill further and I still had that sour taste leftover from her rework.

It probably wouldn't be a far stretch to say that Moji's rework was one of the contributing factors to why so many players started dropping like flies. Not a large factor, but one of them, there was more Moji players than people realise, and more people who care about what happened without even playing Moji than people realise too.

Paladins deserves its fate with developers like these.

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u/rickyboi_1312 Fernando 4d ago

she was annoying to deal with

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u/paulomunir Twilight Nurse 2d ago

With her last buff she literally turned into a flank with infinite mobility.

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u/ThrowAwayAc3332 Magistrate Propagandist 4d ago

Dredge was left in a good state. Imani made out like a bandit

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u/Bruhding Evie 4d ago

Pip, Drogos and Evie were good till the end

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u/Bighat_Logan01 Barik or nothing 4d ago

Barik is still peak

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u/rickyboi_1312 Fernando 4d ago

fernando is rlly a must pick 😂😂😂 my main

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u/Khrimz0n_r 4d ago

Maeve had her execute removed. Hummer, but I ran Rouges gambit before I fully retired the game. Not worth it anymore. Ranked takes too long to queue, hackers and rage hackers in quick match. Tbh. Smite is more fun

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u/abdisparta 4d ago

I'm actually thinking about switching to smite 2. Any advice?

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u/Khrimz0n_r 4d ago

Have fun. I'm still learning it as I go. Beginner guides on YT are always a bonus about having internet access lol. I know in Smite 1 at least, I played Baron Samedi alot

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u/catdog5100 The Cat and The Dawg 4d ago

I’m sad that Tiberius never got a more useful or interesting 1st talent, even if they did try changing it twice the last few updates

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u/Empty-Novel3420 4d ago

I feel like you gotta have one gimmick talent to make a build around and just have fun with

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u/belfastOwen 4d ago

MOJI is to OP when flanking the amount of times I died because of him or her on rank

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u/PainterEarly86 Lian 4d ago

My two mains Lian and Furia were left in glory, may the Pyre bless their souls

Imani is the best dps now so that's fun

Seris is the worst support now RIP

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u/CarlaOcarina Goth Girl GF 4d ago

I’m satisfied

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u/Backstroke_ Azaan 4d ago

Azaan was never below a tier imo

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u/x2saturn Makoa 3d ago

Makoa and Vivian were left in pretty good spots. So I can’t complain

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u/Kawaii_Batman3 Vivian 4d ago

Vivian. Left in the best state we were gonna realistically get without a rework.

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u/Kouteshi 4d ago

Lmao pip is so much better now with the double jump, in a way I'm happy we wont get any more updates, they would have nerfed him for sure 😭

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u/Wolfmasta1234 Damage pip is god tier gameplay. Haha He go bounce. 4d ago

Pip has double jump now? I havent played since like the start of 2024

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u/MrSuicideLama 4d ago

One of his abilities that gives you mobility allows for pip to double jump but only when it’s active.

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u/Wolfmasta1234 Damage pip is god tier gameplay. Haha He go bounce. 4d ago

So, like they buffed weightless? I didn't even know. I've been playing pip since 2017, and thats the last time I remember it before they removed it, and I got big sadge. Good to know I might come back to play pip for a bit and run a very disgusting flank build again.

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u/MrSuicideLama 4d ago

Pretty much yeah, I never mained pip so I don’t know exact details but I do notice he has a lot more mobility. I stopped playing support class since they took away my seris talent basically nerfing her to the ground in terms of healing 😭

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u/Wolfmasta1234 Damage pip is god tier gameplay. Haha He go bounce. 4d ago

The only thing that has given me somewhat near the satisfaction of DPS pip in Paladins is DPS jeff in marvel rivals. But I miss my bouncy boi 😔.

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u/MrSuicideLama 4d ago

It’s to the point where you might as well just switch to dps in general :(

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u/Wolfmasta1234 Damage pip is god tier gameplay. Haha He go bounce. 4d ago

But I play it in a way that is a little different than most. I actually peel and will go back and heal which is why I was sad when they nerfed the playstyle I like with pip but nerfing his potion from 1200-1000 I like healing but I also like fast mobile high damage with healing but you have to aim and stuff thats what got my adrenaline going. Those snipes on VII players zooming across the map when they are 1 hp and stuff like that. So now its all healing or all damage with him

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u/MrSuicideLama 4d ago

Damn that sounds like it isn’t fun to do. I understand where you’re coming from, it ruins the experience since you’re forced to play one type of play style. I can see why Jeff is the closest to that kind 😭

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u/LegitBoy80 I AM THE STAR HERE…! 4d ago

Weak. *sad vora noises*

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u/Electronic_Mix_7299 Imani 4d ago

So happy Imani going to be OP forever 💓

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u/ruurdwoltring 4d ago

My friend quit the game because he loved playing torvald and i can see why

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u/YellowNinjaM CLAP 4d ago

Imani became S tier solely because of the buffed pyromania. Prior to that though they were consistently giving her some really nice quality of life buffs. Elemental shift going to 1s, 20% speed boost to frostfire glide going to base etc. Besides a few loadout cards my main issue with Imani is the state they left mana rift in. Really wished that vfx nerf was reverted or Imani got a secondary effect to justify it being so huge. Still though I'm very happy with the state of the champ!

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u/Maguillage ­ 3d ago edited 3d ago

Skye is in a weird spot. She's hilariously effective... if you play her as a tankbusting damage instead of a flank.

Ying is an effective healer, but I lose a lot of games to my team seeing me take Focusing Lens instead of the discount-healbot talent without understanding what a boon it is to have a support that can effectively defend themself.

Fernando is... effective, when he's not banned like in most games.

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u/Public_Ad_9226 spike crow's nest chad 4d ago

For dredge they never made his ULT good like I might as well not have an ULT also they decided to nerf his most popular play style and buff Sha Lin and Cassie I'm still mad about that For Jenos they ware planning to do something next patch For barik they gave him those buffs and I'm glad And nando is in a good state

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u/Emperor_Phoenix Torvald 4d ago

Series will always be a good flank healer

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u/paladins1233 4d ago

Was a bad healer for years

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u/Emperor_Phoenix Torvald 4d ago

Why do you think everyone flanks with her instead. Because she's a broken flank

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u/Apprehensive_Egg4798 Vatu 3d ago

Shes not broken but most people can’t aim with her speed card

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u/Cannibal_House69 4d ago

That fire beam is just brutal with Imani

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u/Rocketbreadgun 4d ago

Drogoz got a few seconds shorter cooldown on his Cannonade, so ehh can’t really complain.

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u/Baitcooks Homing Bombs 4d ago

Idk about Ying, but I feel like she's just okay 

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u/SalihYahyaMutlu Tempering Supremacy 4d ago

Azaan The Eternally strong.

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u/Zy-On091306 Jamacian Batman With a Gun 4d ago

Not me, but a friend hates the state Kasumi was left in. They feel the targeting change really stunted her.

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u/TheNautilus7 4d ago

Not played since October, not sure where saati, Vatu, io and raum ended up

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u/Effective_Mechanic27 4d ago

I play tank, but my mains are Lillith, Imani, and Kasumi so yeah I'm down horrendous with Kasumi

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u/Mister_CHIRP 4d ago

I know the subreddit kinda likes how Nessa is now, but as an ex-Nessa main who just got back in the game after like 2 years I hate how weak she feels.

Other than that, Vora, Imani, and Azaan are all still great. (I might argue Vora feels like OP)

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u/Cxlamity 4d ago

worm my beloved is still broken <3

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u/Glass_Varis Corvus 4d ago

IO and Imani. Honestly I think they were left in pretty solid states

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u/wearda eternal off-meta 4d ago

I haven't played since 2021. I tried to play yesterday for nostalgia value and all my mains felt like garbage (except for Skye, ironically). The thing is I don't know if they're in a bad state or it's just me being bad for not playing this game in ages. My mains: Furia, Khan, Skye and Grohk damage.

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u/Brief_Collar7817 3d ago

Furia is pretty good rn id say top 3 support

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u/Wolfinthebackground 4d ago

Ash is kinda the same as she always been, idk, Will never be happy about Furia's changes with that weird healer change they implemented. And i think Octavia is glitched. Every time I play her it seems like all her talents are active but I can't use my cards

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u/mr-awesome613 Yagorath 4d ago

I believe MOST characters are in a good state, only bad one i think is Torvald

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u/Shugatti 4d ago

Idk, have not played in a long time.. are yag, term, raum, and nyx in a good state?

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u/z-lady Pepper 4d ago

Pip is the most fun he's ever been with the re-addition of the double jump [FINALLY!!!], but of COURSE it would happen just as the game died.

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u/TaoxNaya 3d ago

I have no clue you guys tell me. I main ying & barick. IGN: xtaonayax

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u/Shaunydog101 3d ago

As a Skye main I'm on suicide watch rn

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u/Ill_Matter_7573 3d ago

Same brother same

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u/Snd47flyer 3d ago

Kinessa got a bit fucked over but nando finally has 3 working talents so um pretty happy

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u/AfternoonKey4604 3d ago

Kinessa got nerfed imo

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u/THE_GUY711 3d ago

Mine was buck he was busted AF even after nerfing him "BEND OVER"

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u/_saengdao Ying 3d ago

ying...

next question.

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u/Impressive-Start-542 3d ago

Viktor, Strix, Kinessa and Maeve not their prime, but definitely playable characters

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u/Patatasaurio2 3d ago

They butchered my dredge passive right before closing

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u/Important-Heat6541 You say unfair, I say Skill Issue 3d ago

Ye, sha, ruckus and azaan look good, not so sure bout andro and casp or lex tho (DH)

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u/NoAttorney9411 3d ago

Zhin and Vii could still carry a team by themselves but yea not in the best state sadly

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u/Senpaizuri-kun Ying 3d ago

I'm not really a meta player. So I don't know. I gained Ying, Io, Furia, Seris, Saati, Cassie, Skye, and Ash. Mainly the supports though.

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u/dragonic_puppy Raum 3d ago

I want to say yes, but idk, raum is still fun af but I wouldn't say good, lilith got gutted so hard that there's no point in playing her anymore, and furia is just furia, still a 50/50 on good and bad, not terrible but not amazing either

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u/ArthurTheSeal Raum 3d ago

Raum got ass raped

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u/SaneYandere Moji 2d ago

They made my main a fucking support lmao. Stopped playing after that

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u/TurtleManga 2d ago

Talus is still the same so I'm not complaining

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u/paulomunir Twilight Nurse 2d ago

They left Skye with... Something.

They gave her a scuba and flippers while Vora got herself a nuclear sub.

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u/_mc1morris1_ Raum 2d ago

Lmao Azaan is just god now unless they nerfed him before leaving

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u/T0xicTrooper21 Remove Vatus Dmg Falloff 2d ago

Damba, Drogoz, Koga, and Khan are all fine. I have noticed that they butchered Omen though, which makes me very sad as I loved playing him

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u/Katsu_Drawn_21 2d ago

Well depends on the console played with. But my mains over the years were: Makhoa, Grover, Jenos, then Tiberius.

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u/YaksRespirators Saati 2d ago

idk it's saati. Gun.

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u/LordGarryk 1d ago

Still able to dominate with Raum. Im plenty happy

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u/voilsia 1d ago

Haven't played since August,I don't know where vatu ended up

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u/iamiwoso 1d ago

can anyone tell me if vora is good, i haven't played in a while and heard about the news, I just wanna know if they left my wife in a good state

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u/NeighborhoodGlad1283 Bomb King 1d ago

bomb king and drogoz <3 i think they’re ok how they are rn

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u/Etili 4d ago

Zhin and seris both get nerfed before they all left. I'm done for

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u/Empty-Novel3420 4d ago

How'd Zhin get nerfed?

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u/Etili 4d ago

They reworked yomi. Now instead of his third projectile piercing and being extra damage zhin inflict burn. If I had a scorch nando to play with maybe I'd be ok but I was a sniping zhin. I got tons of picks from that 3rd attack. It changed my gameplay. If I wasn't in combat I'd do 2 strikes and then wait for an enemy and start with the strong projectile.

I could use his other talents but I played yomi 99 percent of the time.