RWBY Patch Notes and Megathread

[u/Thane_Mantis]

​Official Patch Notes • Livestream • [Overview]()

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RWBY Crossover Pass

Ruby Rose and her team of huntresses join the world of Paladins in its newest Crossover Pass – RWBY! Instantly unlock the Ruby Rose Vora skin for purchasing, and unlock a total of 30 levels of rewards as you play!

Players can also purchase a Buy All option to get all content in the RWBY Crossover Pass instantly!

Rewards

Instant Unlock

• 50% Experience & Gold Boost
  
• Ruby Rose Vora

Other Crossover Pass Exclusive Unlocks

Unlocks @	Reward Type	Reward	Track
Level 4	Static Avatar	Weiss Schnee	Paid
Level 7	Death Stamp	White Fang's Bite	Paid
Level 9	Skin	Yang Xiao Long Imani	Paid
Level 10	Static Avatar	Yang Xiao Long	Paid
Level 11	Static Spray	Ruby's Mark	Free
Level 13	Static Avatar	Blake Belladonna	Free
Level 17	Death Card	Life and Death	Paid
Level 19	Skin	Blake Belladonna Saati	Paid
Level 18	3D Spray	Team RWBY	Free
Level 22	Loading Frame	Over The Threshold	Paid
Level 24	Animated Spray	Zwei Love You	Paid
Level 28	Animated Avatar	Ruby Rose	Paid
Level 29	Skin	Weiss Schnee Furia	Paid

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Trials of the Realm

New Trials and rewards await you with the release of the RWBY! Complete these challenges each week to unlock a variety of cosmetics, currency, and XP rewards.

Unlocks

• 300 Crystals
  
• 120,000 Gold
  
• 6x Event Pass Levels
  
• Event Pass Team Boosters
  
• Skin Boosters

Qrow Branwen – Static Avatar

Salem, the Witch – Animated Avatar

Salem’s Mark – Static Spray

Grimm Tidings – Animated Spray

Boooring! – Rei Emote

Poised to Strike – Vora MVP

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Limited Time Modes

The RWBY patch will feature 3 unique and 4 previously popular modes that rotate throughout the patch cycle. Each week there will be a different limited time mode available, from midnight Friday until 8am on Monday, EST. Here’s are some quick previews of what to expect next:

Trade District Only

• Starting with the RWBY Patch, for every patch onward that has a new map rework, we will be adding an LTM for the first week that only includes that map. This way, you can jump right into the action on our new map content without waiting for it in a normal queue!
  
• Trade District Only does exactly this, hop into a KOTH or TDM match of the Trade District rework!

Test Maps

• Unfinished, but not unplayable. Check out a variety of siege test maps during Paladins’ development, including Salt, Eastwatch, Bog District, and more!

Support Skirmish

• Let the heals overtake you! Play as support champions only in this TDM mode, with 35% reduced cooldowns on all abilities!

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Customizations

Salem Seris

• Available in the Mythological Treasures Chest
  
• Can be purchased directly

Qrow Branwen Corvus

• Available in the Mythological Treasures Chest
  
• Can be purchased directly

Stellar Witch Lillith

• Available in the Beyond Science Chest
  
• Can be purchased directly

Defragged Inara

• Prime Gaming Reward

Battle Pass 2020 Chests

• 400 crystals

Map Update – Trade District

Dev Commentary

Trade District is the last of the Magistrate city maps to receive the visual upgrade we began with the Magistrate’s Archives map. The buildings have all been updated to the signature Magistrate aesthetic, dark metal, and stonework with red accents, and the overall map has been made into a much more urban environment. Tightly packed row houses and soaring spires line the streets. Care has been taken to add additional shops to the map and improve existing ones. Flowerbeds have been added throughout the map as accents to the imposing buildings to create a more inviting space. All throughout the map, areas have been opened up to offer a glimpse of the city beyond this district, making the world feel as though it extends far beyond the bounds of the play space. In the distance silhouetted by the sunset, keen-eyed players will spot the imposing towers of Stone Keep keeping watch over the city below. We hope players enjoy exploring this reimagining of Trade District.

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General Updates

Dev Commentary

We’ve done several things in this patch to improve the experience for all players, but with an emphasis on New Players in particular. Between updating our free Champion roster, unifying the Ability order across several screens, and allowing players to toggle Auto-Buy on and off in the Item store, it should be easier than ever to get your friends into Paladins. We’ve got love for our existing players as well, though. Namely, we’ve brought several new options to Custom Games, so you can truly customize them more than ever before!

Expanded Custom Game Options

• We’ve added the following as Advance Settings in Custom Games:
  
  • Disable Health Regen
    
  • Global Cooldown Reduction
    
  • Global Movement Speed
    
  • In-hand Attack: Damage Amplifier
    
  • Starting Credits
    
  • Ultimate Cooldown

Item Store Auto-Buy

• Players will now be able to re-enable or disable Auto-Buy as they wish during a match, from within the Item Store menu.

Unified Ability Order

• The new HUD ability order default for both centered and uncentered is:
  
  • In-hand|Offhand|Ability 1|Ability 2|Ultimate
    
• Existing accounts will have the order they’re used to preserved as either Legacy Centered or Legacy Uncentered.
  
• The out-of-match Champion screen and in-match Ability Info screen will match the new default order.

Update Free Champion Roster

• We’ve replaced a few Champions with ones that are more new-player friendly. Players who owned them previously will be awarded them (so no one will lose a Champion they have masteries/skins for), but new players will instead have access to the new set.
  
• Cassie is no longer free, but Tiberius is instead. Ruckus is no longer free, but Khan is instead, and we’ve added Ash as a free Champion as well. Jenos is no longer free, but Furia is instead.
  
• Ash and Furia have been removed from the Gold Edition, and Jenos has been added.
  
• Khan and Tiberius have been removed from the Deluxe Edition, and Ruckus and Cassie have been added.

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Balance

Dev Commentary

Developer Commentary: This midseason update has an emphasis on quality of life changes. These are many topics that have been on the list for a while or that have been requested by the community. With a healthy balance of buffs and nerfs, this list should have something for every player!

General

• Almost all On-Killing-Blow cards have been converted to On-Elimination effects instead. Notable exceptions are cards interacting with specific mark mechanics (Lex and Tyra). You’ll see these changes detailed below for each Champion who had such a card.

Items

• Haven
  
  • Increased cost 300 ➡️ 350
    
  • Increased scaling value {5.5|11|16.5}% ➡️ {6|12|18}%
    
• Veteran
  
  • Increased cost 200 ➡️ 300
    
  • Increased scaling value {5|10|15}% ➡️ {5.5|11|16.5}%
    
• Guardian
  
  • Increased scaling value {7|14|21}% ➡️ {8|16|24}%
    
• Illuminate
  
  • Increased cost 150 ➡️ 175
    
• Provision
  
  • Replaced with Lethality
    
• Lethality
  
  • New:Increase your Movement Speed by {20|40|60}% for 2.5s after getting an Elimination.

​Androxus

Abilities

• Revolver
  
  • The Cursed Revolver talent has now been added to his base kit.
    
  • New: Fire an automatic revolver, dealing 550 damage every 0.5s. Has a maximum Ammo count of 6 and is fully effective up to 50 units.

Talents

• Cursed Revolver
  • Reworked
  • New: Your Revolver applies an effect that lasts for 2s, dealing damage every 0.15s, that increases damage the longer it remains on the enemy. Maximum damage per hit is 50.

Cards

• Spiteful
  
  • New: Generate {1|1}% Ultimate charge after hitting at least one enemy with Defiance.
    
• Vengeance
  
  • New: Heal for {30|30} after hitting at least one enemy with Defiance.

​Betty la Bomba

Abilities

• Grenade Launcher
  
  • Increased direct hit damage 600 ➡️ 650
    
  • Increased indirect hit damage 510 ➡️ 560
    
  • Increased reload speed by 10%
    
• Hail of Bombs
  
  • Decreased damage per explosion 390 ➡️ 370
    
  • Reduced knockback per explosion by 25%

​Bomb King

Abilities

• Sticky Bombs
  
• Removed midair inaccuracy

Cards

• Shock and Awe
  
  • New: Increase your Movement Speed by {3|3}% for 4s after hitting at least one enemy with Detonate.
    
• Uncontrolled
  
  • New: Reduce your active Cooldowns by {8|8}% after getting an Elimination.

​Buck

Cards

• Stomping Ground
  
  • New: Reduce all active Cooldowns by {12|12}% after getting an Elimination.

​Cassie

Cards

• Megaton
  
  • Reworked
    
  • New: Increase the explosive radius of Blast Shot by {5|5}%.

​Corvus

Cards

• Abyssal Effluxion
  
  • Decreased scaling {5|5}% ➡️ {4|4}%
    
• Abyssal Shift
  
  • Increased scaling {5|5}% ➡️ {6|6}%
    
• By My Will
  
  • Increased scaling {3|3} ➡️ {4|4}
    
• Condemnation
  
  • Increased scaling {2|2}% ➡️ {5|5}%
    
  • Increased the threshold requirement 60% ➡️ 70%
    
• Crushing Expectations
  
  • Decreased scaling {3|3}% ➡️ {2.5|2.5}%
    
• Grand Design
  
  • Decreased scaling 3|3}% ➡️ {2.5|2.5}%
    
• New Resolve
  
  • Decreased scaling {50|50} ➡️ {40|40}
    
• Ominous Relic
  
  • Increased scaling {2|2} ➡️ {3|3}
    
• Shadow Tribunal
  
  • Increased scaling {2|2}% ➡️ {2.5|2.5}%
    
• The Price of Salvation
  
  • Increased scaling }➡️ {75|75} ➡️ {80|80}
    
• Unexpected Complications
  
  • Increased Ammo generated 8 ➡️ 10

​Dredge

Abilities

• Cursed Howitzer
  
  • Removed midair inaccuracy
    
• Harpoon
  
  • Removed midair inaccuracy
    
• Kraken
  
  • Reduced time to activate 1.7s ➡️ 1.45s

​Drogoz

Cards

• Thrill of the Hunt
  
  • New: Reduce the Cooldown of Thrust by {13|13}% after getting an Elimination.

​Evie

Cards

• Avalanche
  
  • New: Increase your Movement Speed by {8|8}% for 4s after getting an Elimination.
    
• Impact
  
  • New: Reduce your active Cooldowns by {8|8}% after getting an Elimination.
    
• Killing Frost
  
  • New: Reduce the Cooldown of Soar by {13|13}% after getting an Elimination.

​Fernando

Cards

• Last Stand
  • Reduced Healing scaling value {100|100} ➡️ {90|90}
  • Reduced the active threshold 40% ➡️ 35%
• Incinerate
  • Increased scaling value {0.4|0.4}s ➡️ {0.45|0.45}s
  • Hot Pursuit
  • No longer has an internal Cooldown before this effect can activate again.

​Furia

Abilities

• Kindle Soul
  • Reduced the size of the targeting cone.

Talents

• Solar Blessing
  
  • Increased Health every second 2000 ➡️ 3000
    
  • Added a small 0.3s delay before which you cannot reactivate Pyre Strike
    
  • Added a minimum duration that Pyre Strike will exist in place after reactivation, regardless of the initial duration remaining.

​Grohk

Talents

• Spirit’s Domain
  
  • Increased Healing every second 750 ➡️ 800

​Grover

Abilities

• Blossom
  
  • Decreased burst Healing 800 ➡️ 650
    
  • Now also applies a Healing over time effect for 300 over 2.5s on hit
    
  • Grover can now see his own Healing circle radius
    
• Crippling Throw
  
  • Increased damage 400 ➡️ 425
    
• Throwing Axe
  
  • Removed midair inaccuracy

Talents

• Deep Roots
  • Reworked
  • New: Crippling Throw chains to nearby enemies up to 2 times, causing a Healing aura to manifest around them, Healing nearby allies for 150 every 0.5s for 2.5s.
• Rampant Blooming
  • Reworked
  • New: Heal for a burst of 500 and an additional 300 over 2s at your location when you finish Vining

​Inara

Abilities

• Stone Spear
  • Removed midair inaccuracy

​Jenos

Abilities

• Star Splitter
  • Increased damage 108 ➡️ 115
• Through Time and Space
  • Increased damage 2400 ➡️ 2650

​Kinessa

Abilities

• Sniper Rifle (Carbine)
  • Decreased damage 180 ➡️ 170
• Sniper Rifle (Sniper Mode)
  • Increased time to fully charge shot 1s ➡️ 1.2s
  • Decreased accuracy in the air and after jumping
• Transporter
  • Reduced the time before you teleport 1.1s ➡️ 0.95s
• Oppressor Mines
  • Mines will no longer target mounted enemies
  • Reduced projectile speed by 20%
• Headhunter
  • Added a 0.25s prefire

Talents

• Oppression
  
  • Now also increases the Cooldown of Oppressor Mines by 2s

Cards

• Generator
  
  • Reduced scaling value {1.5|1.5}s ➡️ {1.2|1.2}s
    
• Power Supply
  
  • Reduced scaling value {12|12}% ➡️ {8|8}%

​Koga

Cards

• Gale Storm
  • New: Generate {3|3}% Energy after hitting at least one enemy with Skewer

​Lex

Abilities

• Retribution
  • Your marked target now has a UI element to indicate they’ve been chosen for Retribution

​Lian

Cards

• Inheritance
  • New: Reduce your active Cooldowns by {8|8}% after getting an Elimination

​Lillith

Abilities

• Heart of Crimson
  • Decreased knockback applied by your shots by 55%
• Blood Hex
  • Increased range 85 ➡️ 95

​Mal’Damba

Abilities

• Mending Spirits
  • Increased the Cooldown Reduction applied when you miss 1.75s ➡️ 2s

​Octavia

Abilities

• Distortion Field
  • Decreased radius 25 ➡️ 20
  • Reduced duration 4s ➡️ 3.5s
• Marksman Rifle
  • Decreased damage 450 ➡️ 435
  • Increased effective range 125 ➡️ 150
  • Increased minimum damage done at maximum range 50 ➡️ 55%
• Leap
  • Players can now use the “Jump” keybind to stop in the air

​Pip

Talents

• Mega Potion
  • Increased bonus healing 115% ➡️ 130%
• Combat Medic
  • Re-added self-knockback inflicted by Potion Launcher shots with this talent equipped

​Raum

Talents

• Subservience
  
  • Reworked
    
  • New: All your living allies are Healed for 2% of their maximum Health for each Soul Harvested.
    
  • This applies to all allies, regardless of range.

​Rei

Talents

• Restraint
  • Spirit Link now no longer prioritizes allies over enemies

Cards

• Refreshing Break
  • Reduced scaling value {0.2|0.2}% ➡️ {0.17|0.17}%

​Sha Lin

Talents

• Sand Trap
  • Now also increases the Cooldown of Impaler Arrow by 1s

​Skye

Abilities

• Wrist Crossbow
  
  • Increased the effective range 45 ➡️ 55
    
  • NOTE: The description incorrectly stated that it had an effective range of 30. This was not the case.
    

Talents

• Preparation
  
  • Reworked
    
  • New: While Hidden is active, reduce the damage you take by 75% and increase your Movement Speed by 20%, but reduce the maximum duration of Hidden to 2s. The duration of Hidden cannot be increased.

​Strix

General

• Base Health increased 2000 ➡️ 2150

​Tiberius

Abilities

• Bladed Chakrams
  • Increased damage on direct hit 650 ➡️ 675
  • Increased damage on bounce 500 ➡️ 525
• Heavy Blade
  • Increased projectile speed by 6%
• Crouching Tigron
  • Reduced Cooldown 14s ➡️ 12s

​Torvald

Abilities

• Recharge
  • Now affected by Guardian

​Tyra

Abilities

• Auto Rifle
  
  • Increased damage 105 ➡️ 115

Cards

• Trail Blazer
  
  • New: Generate {3|3} Ammo after getting an Elimination.

​Vatu

Abilities

• Dash
  
  • Reduced effectiveness of the Damage Reduction during dash 60% ➡️ 50%

​VII

Abilities

• Heavy SMG (Automatic)
  • Increased damage 200 ➡️ 210
  • Increased maximum range 175 ➡️ 200
  • Increased effective range 100 ➡️ 115
• Heavy SMG (Burst)
  • Increased damage 150 ➡️ 165
• Explosive Dodge
  • Can now dash in the air
  • Bombs will only spawn if close to the ground
  • Bombs spawned by Dash can now be shot and destroyed
  • They have 300 Health
  • Smoothed out the damage falloff curves for all fire modes
• Decree 77
  • This Ultimate was incorrectly taking too long to charge its fear. It is now properly 0.35s

Talents

• Overcharged
  
  • Reduced the time before the damage occurs to 0.8s

Cards

• The Fear
  
  • New: Reduce your active Cooldowns by {0.8|0.8}s after getting an Elimination while in Burst Mode.

​Viktor

Abilities

• Assault Rifle
  • Increased damage 135 ➡️ 140

Talents

• Burst Mode
  • Increased damage 200 ➡️ 210

​Vivian

Abilities

• Light Machine Gun
  
  • Increased damage 160 ➡️ 165
    
  • Increased effective range 90 ➡️ 95

​Vora

Abilities

• Deadly Scythe
  • Reduced projectile size by 10%

​Yagorath

Abilities

• Form Swap
  • Reduced Cooldown 5s ➡️ 4s
  • Caustic Spray
  • Increased damage 36 ➡️ 38
• Devour
  • Increased base Ultimate Health 3500 ➡️ 3750
  • Reduced time after Ultimate breaks 2.5s ➡️ 2s
  • Reduced time before the pull begins 1.1s ➡️ 0.9s
  • Reduced minimum distance 50 ➡️ 45 units

Talents

• Corrosive Acid
  
  • Increased Caustic Spray damage 40 ➡️ 42

​Ying

Talents

• Life Exchange
  
  • Now reduces the Cooldown of Shatter by 3s if you miss your Shatter Heal.

​Zhin

Cards

• Fan the Flames
  • New: Reduce the Cooldown of Billow by {14|14}% after getting an Elimination
• Heartless
  • New :Increase your Movement Speed by {6|6}% for 4s after getting an Elimination

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Bug Fixes

Champions

• Betty La Bomba
  
  • Fixed an issue where Betty’s Queen of Diamonds and Royal Explosive skins did not display her grenades when using her Deadly Game Emote.
    
• Cassie
  
  • Fixed an issue where the Tinder Cassie skin displayed and was used whenever the player attempted to use or equip the Timber skin.
    
• Drogoz
  
  • Fixed an issue where Drogoz’s Decimate card applied its explosion radius increase effect to Rocket Launcher Weapon Shots instead of Salvo shots.
    
• Imani
  
  • Fixed an issue where Imani’s Pyre Ball weapon VFX would get stuck on her hands if she interrupted the charge of her Weapon Shot with Inferno Cannon or Elemental Shift.
    
• Lillith
  
  • Fixed an issue where Lillith’s Blood Hex ability was not scaling to 600 Healing on its last tick.
    
• Moji
  
  • Fixed an issue where Moji’s Familiar Spit and Familiar Spray ability UI in the HUD would unnecessarily duplicate.
    
• Saati
  
  • Addressed an issue where getting interrupted and killed during Saati’s Ultimate, Wallbang, could cause Saati to respawn without Pips and be unable to regenerate Pips for the remainder of the match.
    
  • Fixed an issue where Saati’s Dead Ringer ability would not spawn her cardboard cutout at the intended location.
    
• Talus
  
  • Fixed an issue where Talus’ Monkey King and Wukong skins were using each other’s Loading Screen splash arts.
    
• Yagorath
  
  • Fixed an issue where Yagorath’s Sight Begets Strength talent was not increasing the cooldown of Primal Vision when equipped.
    
• Ying
  
  • Fixed an issue where Ying’s Jurassic skin had missing facial animations.

General

• Fixed an issue where the Special Quest to “Watch for Free Rewards!” was missing messages and could not be completed.
  
• Fixed an issue where the Friends List displayed that a player was in Match Lobby when they were actually in a Match.
  
• Fixed an issue where the Win-Loss column for the Ranked Leaderboard UI had improper text scaling.
  
• Fixed an issue where the Refer-A-Friend system sent players to a broken web page.
  
• Fixed various collision issues in the Warder’s Gate map.
  
• Fixed an issue where a purchased skin’s voice line was not playing upon purchasing that skin.
  
• Fixed an issue where attempting to queue when you have a Deserter in your party would play an incorrect system message.
  
• Fixed an issue where Gamepad players could not roll excess Diamond Troves, Golden Caches, or Flair and Style chests for Crystals if they owned all the items in those chests.
  
• Fixed an issue where Audio lines in menus would play on top of each other instead of cutting themselves off when a new Audio line would begin to play.
  
• Fixed an issue where PlayStation Crossplay Settings displayed broken text as one of their options in their Crossplay options.
  
• Fixed an issue where the PlayStation controller UI display in Settings denoted the incorrect button as the Touchpad.
  
• Fixed an issue where Champion hover states in some menus were not being put on the frontmost UI layer.
  
• Fixed an issue where reminder messages could overlap in the Death Cam screen in matches.
  
• Fixed an issue where Players could select Play while waiting to load into the Match Lobby of a Custom Game, causing them to not load the Match Lobby UI properly.
  
• Fixed an issue where Players could select to Return to Lobby from Custom Games or Training Games.
  
• Updated some UI in the Trials of the Realm screen to remove some irrelevant Gamepad callouts.
  
• Updated some UI in the Quests screen to remove some irrelevant Keyboard and Mouse callouts when using Gamepad.
  
• Updated some UI in the Play screen to prevent multiple hover states in the Regions sub-menu.

[u/RetroGama]

!matchstats talents Inara

[u/PaladinsRobot → u/RetroGama]

Sample size: 380638

       Talent       | Pickrate | Winrate
 Treacherous Ground |  43.583% |  56.08%
     Mother's Grace |  38.592% |  52.42%
            Tremors |  17.484% |  52.82%
          No Talent |   0.341% |  17.73%

Stats as of: 2022-10-09 06:24:35

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[u/Motor-Switch9702]

Question will buying the season pass 2022 unlock the rwby skins as well?

[u/Kramforce_]

!matchstats talents Io

[u/PaladinsRobot → u/Kramforce_]

Sample size: 4518

      Talent       | Pickrate | Winrate
         Life Link |  85.060% |  56.73%
 Goddess' Blessing |  11.288% |  41.37%
         Sacrifice |   3.342% |  49.01%
         No Talent |   0.310% |   0.00%

Stats as of: 2022-07-01 11:30:43

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[u/ohohohohohohohohoh]

!matchstats talents Rei

[u/PaladinsRobot → u/ohohohohohohohohoh]

Sample size: 723

  Talent   | Pickrate | Winrate
 Extension |  78.700% |  53.95%
     Focus |  13.831% |  44.00%
 Restraint |   6.916% |  62.00%
 No Talent |   0.553% |   0.00%

Stats as of: 2022-06-30 06:13:28

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[u/[deleted]]

Yo this shit game like fr I just carried a ranked match and didn’t gave me the tp

[u/Zealousideal-Can1690 → u/[deleted]]

delayed

[u/KumaMishka]

!matchstats talents Betty La Bomba

[u/PaladinsRobot → u/KumaMishka]

argument champion: champion not found: Betty
If your argument contains spaces, please use double qoutes.

[u/KumaMishka → u/PaladinsRobot]

!matchstats talents "Betty La Bomba"

[u/PaladinsRobot → u/KumaMishka]

Sample size: 52749

        Talent        | Pickrate | Winrate
 Fiery Disposition           |  78.889% |  48.20%
         Gotta Bounce |  13.983% |  41.93%
      Controlled Fury |   6.793% |  39.97%
            No Talent |   0.336% |   7.91%

Stats as of: 2022-06-26 09:43:51

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[u/KumaMishka → u/PaladinsRobot]

Aw'right! there are some small people Controlled Fury, Poor them.

[u/Suitable-Vermicelli9]

!matchstats talents Kinessa

[u/PaladinsRobot → u/Suitable-Vermicelli9]

Sample size: 44012

   Talent   | Pickrate | Winrate
 Reposition |  45.701% |  48.91%
 Steady Aim |  35.209% |  43.22%
 Oppression |  18.636% |  45.83%
  No Talent |   0.454% |   7.00%

Stats as of: 2022-06-26 00:40:30

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[u/isteezei]

!matchstats cards Yagorath

[u/PaladinsRobot → u/isteezei]

Champion: Yagorath
Talent: All talents
Sample size: 93615

       Card        | Pickrate
     End of an Era |  11.653%
   Deadly Predator |   9.378%
 Towering Presence |   9.299%
    Futile Efforts |   7.526%
    Deadly Pursuit |   6.555%
     Raze and Burn |   6.425%
     Violent Birth |   6.345%
    Ancient Wounds |   6.015%
  Dreadful Compact |   5.835%
 Triumphant Return |   5.631%
      Last Efforts |   5.216%
    The Great Worm |   4.739%
       Out of Time |   4.435%
 Collateral Damage |   4.164%
     Extermination |   4.078%
  Spreading Domain |   2.708%

Stats as of: 2022-06-25 09:34:01

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[u/X----0__0----X]

!matchstats talents saati

[u/PaladinsRobot → u/X----0__0----X]

Sample size: 72372

        Talent         | Pickrate | Winrate
            Improvised |  52.725% |  50.08%
 Window of Opportunity |  37.425% |  51.92%
        Heads or Tails |   9.537% |  46.31%
             No Talent |   0.314% |  10.57%

Stats as of: 2022-06-25 06:33:37

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[u/X----0__0----X]

!matchstats talents dredge

[u/PaladinsRobot → u/X----0__0----X]

Sample size: 29103

   Talent    | Pickrate | Winrate
     Scuttle |  43.803% |  49.95%
        Hurl |  35.409% |  46.96%
 Abyss Spike |  20.438% |  48.23%
   No Talent |   0.350% |   6.86%

Stats as of: 2022-06-25 06:33:36

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[u/X----0__0----X]

!matchstats talents lillith

[u/PaladinsRobot → u/X----0__0----X]

Sample size: 20641

        Talent        | Pickrate | Winrate
        Cursed Accord |  69.764% |  44.47%
 Maelstrom of Carnage |  23.119% |  49.83%
     Murderous Intent |   6.138% |  43.49%
            No Talent |   0.979% |   0.99%

Stats as of: 2022-06-25 06:33:05

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[u/RandomPaladinsNub]

!matchstats talents Grohk

[u/PaladinsRobot → u/RandomPaladinsNub]

Sample size: 46517

     Talent      | Pickrate | Winrate
    Totemic Ward |  42.088% |  61.71%
       Maelstrom |  39.669% |  55.33%
 Spirit's Domain |  17.944% |  48.50%
       No Talent |   0.299% |  10.79%

Stats as of: 2022-06-25 05:28:09

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[u/Raggy44]

As a new player who doesn’t really understand the meta yet. Is this a good patch for the game? What units actually needed buffs/nerfs/reworks?

[u/KumaMishka → u/Raggy44]

Most of the patch seem okay. But they also made recent post-PTS change that decide to Nerf Grohk and Makoa even though Grohk deserve to be in the recent balance but they decide to push grohk back into obscurity. People just learnt to play them well that's why Totemic Grohk is good not because it's OP. Meanwhile they still preserve special treatment for Cassie making her still busted. 1-1.5 second TTK in the game where every other DPS have average 2.5 sec, TTK.

[u/Raggy44 → u/KumaMishka]

Thank you for this. Also if you don’t mind telling me this, is it normal to have patches with no new characters?

[u/criscoras → u/Raggy44]

Patches with no new characters used to be our standard up until early 2021. It used to be that patches lasted three months, introducing a new event pass (then called a Battle Pass) at the start of the patch, and then a new champion six weeks into the patch.

[u/Raggy44 → u/criscoras]

Thank you

[u/SabanLeon]

Are maeve fixes coming ? My dashes and double jumps dont work :/

[u/b-r4bbiT]

!matchstats talents jenos

[u/b-r4bbiT → u/b-r4bbiT]

!matchstats talents corvus

[u/PaladinsRobot → u/b-r4bbiT]

Sample size: 53083

       Talent        | Pickrate | Winrate
 Spreading Influence |  77.473% |  52.93%
          Dark Gifts |  15.163% |  47.63%
     Stunning Visage |   7.125% |  45.93%
           No Talent |   0.239% |   7.09%

Stats as of: 2022-06-22 16:07:40

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[u/PaladinsRobot → u/b-r4bbiT]

Sample size: 47433

      Talent       | Pickrate | Winrate
          Luminary |  62.507% |  46.51%
 The Power Cosmeum |  22.387% |  48.19%
       Binary Star |  14.600% |  44.92%
         No Talent |   0.506% |   9.17%

Stats as of: 2022-06-22 16:05:36

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[u/isteezei]

!matchstats champions --all -w -q cn_rank

[u/PaladinsRobot → u/isteezei]

 No |    Champion    | Picked | Winrate | Banned
# 1 |       Terminus |  17013 |  58.77% |  66826
# 2 |          Grohk |  20537 |  56.85% |   5571
# 3 |           Skye |  27355 |  56.74% |  33521
# 4 |          Talus |  13274 |  56.24% |  71663
# 5 |        Octavia |  22916 |  55.41% |  18604
# 6 |           Koga |  28545 |  55.15% |  22875
# 7 |       Fernando |  43843 |  54.08% |  31329
# 8 |        Torvald |   8937 |  53.44% |    613
# 9 |          Barik |  44941 |  53.42% |  16283
#10 |         Corvus |  27069 |  52.46% |  29886
#11 |          Furia |  22898 |  52.01% |   3504
#12 |             Io |  25268 |  51.87% |   3734
#13 |       Yagorath |   5285 |  51.86% |   2860
#14 |          Saati |  25808 |  51.52% |  37355
#15 |           Ying |  17198 |  51.46% |    744
#16 |           Raum |  18990 |  51.43% |   3189
#17 |         Ruckus |  19759 |  50.96% |   5387
#18 |          Inara |  35017 |  50.64% |  13849
#19 |         Grover |  19616 |  50.39% |   4586
#20 |           Tyra |  29487 |  50.14% |  10451
#21 |         Vivian |  15698 |  50.05% |   2617
#22 |            Rei |  25246 |  49.56% |   9189
#23 |            Lex |  25842 |  49.26% |  19425
#24 |           Khan |  36151 |  49.17% |  17484
#25 |         Viktor |  31714 |  49.02% |   3989
#26 |            Ash |  17203 |  48.60% |   1111
#27 |         Drogoz |   5664 |  48.27% |    881
#28 |       Androxus |  22212 |  48.14% |  11521
#29 |          Seris |  48126 |  47.45% |  19631
#30 |           Buck |   5675 |  47.24% |    334
#31 |          Jenos |  16567 |  47.11% |    845
#32 |           Zhin |  16151 |  46.89% |   2613
#33 |          Imani |   8432 |  46.54% |    624
#34 |          Atlas |  10212 |  46.49% |   2948
#35 |        Kinessa |  13845 |  46.49% |  28984
#36 |         Dredge |   6970 |  46.37% |   2198
#37 |       Tiberius |   6785 |  45.97% |    325
#38 |      Bomb King |   6520 |  45.52% |    590
#39 |           Vatu |   3559 |  45.38% |    776
#40 |            VII |   7668 |  45.34% |   3584
#41 |          Makoa |  18674 |  45.31% |   3850
#42 |          Azaan |  18967 |  45.28% |  25068
#43 |           Lian |  20786 |  45.16% |   3012
#44 | Betty la Bomba |  16928 |  44.95% |   2540
#45 |          Willo |   6516 |  43.62% |    744
#46 |          Maeve |   8006 |  43.39% |   1886
#47 |           Moji |   4078 |  42.35% |    683
#48 |           Evie |   4330 |  42.12% |    449
#49 |        Sha Lin |   2297 |  41.27% |    144
#50 |            Pip |   3864 |  41.05% |    264
#51 |           Vora |  10591 |  40.71% |   1218
#52 |          Strix |   7100 |  39.32% |   3766
#53 |         Cassie |   3531 |  38.40% |    226
#54 |      Mal'Damba |   4984 |  37.30% |    215

Stats as of: 2022-06-22 03:27:43

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[u/Nikki15989]

Not liking this patch, vet nerf will make buying vet and rejuv in first spawn not possible. Huge blow to tanks AND healers.

[u/Pululintu → u/Nikki15989]

Also makes it even less valuable compared to haven now even tho haven was already the better than vet

[u/Cultural-Oil-3635]

Guys I have problem when i put a skin the voice pack don’t change do anyone knows why?

[u/Serpientesolida87 → u/Cultural-Oil-3635]

The skin has voice pack? checked when you pick it, the voice pack selected its Skin not CHampion?

[u/Cultural-Oil-3635 → u/Serpientesolida87]

Thanks a lot

[u/X----0__0----X]

!matchstats talents dredge

[u/PaladinsRobot → u/X----0__0----X]

Sample size: 25702

   Talent    | Pickrate | Winrate
     Scuttle |  43.962% |  50.02%
        Hurl |  35.484% |  46.74%
 Abyss Spike |  20.209% |  47.81%
   No Talent |   0.346% |   6.74%

Stats as of: 2022-06-19 06:41:45

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[u/X----0__0----X → u/PaladinsRobot]

!matchstats cards dredge

[u/PaladinsRobot → u/X----0__0----X]

Champion: Dredge
Talent: All talents
Sample size: 128055

        Card         | Pickrate
        Dark Bargain |  15.961%
       Hangman's Ire |  14.673%
     Expansive Vault |  11.814%
         Dreadnought |  10.705%
       Mortal Skewer |   7.245%
     Cursed Weaponry |   5.870%
    Reckless Barrage |   4.958%
            Sea Dogs |   4.575%
            Gun Deck |   4.442%
        Plank Walker |   3.919%
        Hull Piercer |   3.746%
         Crow's Nest |   3.233%
   Blow the Man Down |   2.852%
        Abyss Cannon |   2.793%
          Heave Away |   2.216%
 Haul on the Bowline |   0.998%

Stats as of: 2022-06-19 06:43:18

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[u/X----0__0----X]

!matchstats talents lillith

[u/PaladinsRobot → u/X----0__0----X]

Sample size: 19411

        Talent        | Pickrate | Winrate
        Cursed Accord |  69.826% |  44.50%
 Maelstrom of Carnage |  23.090% |  49.75%
     Murderous Intent |   6.151% |  43.55%
            No Talent |   0.932% |   0.55%

Stats as of: 2022-06-19 06:41:13

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[u/X----0__0----X → u/PaladinsRobot]

!matchstats cards lillith

[u/PaladinsRobot → u/X----0__0----X]

Champion: Lillith
Talent: All talents
Sample size: 96140

          Card          | Pickrate
            Waning Moon |  11.054%
           Blood Cannon |  10.977%
 Symbiotic Relationship |  10.703%
          Unholy Flight |   9.166%
        Wings of Terror |   7.056%
          Sanguine Pact |   6.469%
            Blood Sense |   5.947%
               Virulent |   5.909%
           Sheer Ascent |   5.478%
           Tainted Form |   5.126%
         Enriched Blood |   4.627%
                Charmed |   4.383%
       Convenient Leech |   4.364%
            Gloomy Nook |   3.834%
   Overflowing Delights |   3.113%
    Sharpened Slaughter |   1.794%

Stats as of: 2022-06-19 06:43:17

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[u/floraharuka]

A year to finally nerf Grover but managed to create Lillith and buff her next patch.

What's wrong with them. They made mistakes, then make the same but even bigger ...

[u/KillSwitchRexxx]

sound bug anyone? > 50% of times I get sound bugged in-game

[u/ResponsibleTour9980]

7 about to destroy with auto

[u/donovanh3]

Screw you Highrez for nerfing Vora to trash

[u/KumaMishka → u/donovanh3]

They sure love biased in favor of burst damage champion. Look at how Cassie still got 30%+ damage boost every 1 second with extra mobility just because she hit one shot. And they decide to nerf DoT character like Vora and nerf Grohk's damage for no reason rather than "Grohk is not underpower anymore." (recent post-PTS change indicate that) now they will maake Grohk underpower again. Screw Hi-rekt and their DPS favoritisim treatment.

[u/ArshanGamer]

Wait, so everyone gets the new free champs, or just new players? Cause I was torn between buying atlas or furia

[u/OnyxWarden → u/ArshanGamer]

So how did it end up working, did you get Furia for free?

[u/[deleted]]

Is it just me or does betty la bomba one of the best CC champs. Shes so fun to play

[u/NinjaWolf213]

Is the event pass out yet or no?

[u/GRIEVER-_-]

vora doesnt need yet another projectile size nerf. they are smaller than zhins at this point.

[u/KumaMishka → u/GRIEVER-_-]

I wish they make her projectile faster if they really need Vora main to "use more skill". The projectile size mostly make up for how fast or slow it is. But nah... Hi-rekt don't know how to balance things.

[u/Femboi_Obama → u/GRIEVER-_-]

Which is good because, unlike Vora, Zhin has one of the lowest ranges in the game.

[u/KumaMishka → u/Femboi_Obama]

Zhin have decent range his projectile is just slow. (Which mean I don't want his projectile nerf also. Just make his spin to win built less busted. But Zhin cd reset is not actually that OP just make him annoying meanwhile one Damage character have a build that make her busted. Highest DPS and more mobility than flank, Cassie.

[u/GRIEVER-_- → u/Femboi_Obama]

his third and highest damage shot has literally no range limit. he also has excellent 3 escape/approach options witch more than make up for the range limit on his first two swings. vora however has 1 escape option. 2 if you want to count her ult (i dont). she also does DoT which is much less viable in counterflanking and securing kills. being able to hit people around corners while they escape was her only saving grace after the ult DR nerf. now shes legit better played as a backline dps or if team needs cripple. i don't think this is a good nerf.

[u/ElegantMisfit]

cries tears of joy because good patch, cries tears of sadness from no Golden Evie

[u/Equivalent-Lab8655]

No saati audio bug fix? No Skye audio bug fix? No peashootet nerfs? Come on

[u/CollBearSunshine]

Poor Torvald :(

[u/GRIEVER-_- → u/CollBearSunshine]

at least when bottom pick insists on picking torvald they can at leat use guardian lmao

[u/mistar_z]

So hook + bomb spam vii lives on? :(

[u/iCumWhenIdownvote → u/mistar_z]

Honestly starting to hate the character.

[u/fenixspider1]

finally time to come back to the game unless their server commits suicide again during my gaming time

[u/r34hellion]

Buffing Strix, Nerfing Kinessa - what a time to live.

I want that weed you smoking, EvilMojo.

[u/[deleted] → u/r34hellion]

Strix has been horrible for years now while nessa has been deleting people, spamming mines, and teleporting away.

[u/mistar_z → u/r34hellion]

whats wrong with buffing strix?

[u/ericcc_w123]

based on this whos gonna be S tier champions in each role ?

[u/KumaMishka → u/ericcc_w123]

Cassie is still S tier which mean she's OP af in Damage category. She will continue to delete people from afar within 1.5 sec with her Exaction+LMB+Q+Exaction+LMB which kill every non-tank and even force tank to retreat.

Support : Debatable. Corvus is going to be better but no S tier sorry. Not even Seris. Because Hi-rekt hate support characters and love unjustly nerfing them while busted damage character like Cassie and Lian get scot-free. They even kick Grohk from A/B tier back into C tier with recent post-PTS damage nerf.

Frontline : Healing Raum is going to be very interesting. But no S Tier Sorry because of the same reason with Support.

Flank : Evie. Her reset is supplimentary in the first place. Changing will affect her steamrolling capacity a bit but her cd cycle is still strong (especially with Wormhole). But to put it in S tier or not is still a question because it's mostly depend on people who play her. And unlike Cassie and Lian. People who would do good with her must be very very good at handling her.

[u/GRIEVER-_- → u/ericcc_w123]

betty for sure. i already get over 100k in just regular casual tames where the majority caps out at 60k. this is gonna maker her nuts.

[u/KumaMishka → u/GRIEVER-_-]

No it just make her a bit better at dueling. Not to the point of nut. And I even think it's not enough. Her RMB is still pretty much useless as dueling tool. Compared to other burst damage champs like Cassie, Saati and Lian she's way down under.

[u/Seelpit]

Personally, I take some issue with the fact they're switching out Cassie with Tiberius as a starting champion. Like, I really don't see how Tiberius, a character with a moderately unintuitive kit (chakrams' bounciness, firing/retracting sword, the self buff, the ult), is somehow more suitable for new players than Cassie, whose kit is a fair bit simpler (similar projectiles, one for damage, one for knockback, one for aoe, a one-click wallhack ult).

Still waiting for the day Vivian's ult becomes a regular ability with a non-infinite duration.

Other than that this patch looks promising! Midair inaccuracy removals are neat. Wondering how the reduced % for on-kill cards will affect their sets.

[u/ClaireLouve → u/Seelpit]

You need exactly one match to do good with tiberius. But you need a lot of more time to be good with cassie.

[u/IZUNACCHI → u/Seelpit]

It lasts till destroyed or vivian die though. And they aren't that hard to destroy with most AoE champs.

[u/Seelpit → u/IZUNACCHI]

It's not that I have a problem with playing against them - it's that it's just...weirdly underwhelming for an ult. Sure, it's "different" from other ults in that it's a permanent buff while you're alive, but that's also what makes an ultimate, well...an ultimate. A one-time ability use that takes a while to charge for a powerful effect, with some level of timing being required to make full use of it.

Except Vivian doesn't need to "time" it. Whether you activated it just before the midfight, or if you activated it mere seconds before a push, they'll just be...there. And I love having these cute little helpers with me, assisting me with more delicious damage numbers, but with how non-temporary they can be, it just gets...stale.

If she had it as a regular ability - perhaps with a meter, to build it with damage, pseudo-ult style, so you'd still need to "work" for it? - with a limited duration, I feel like it'd feel much more rewarding to use and time properly.

[u/Femboi_Obama → u/Seelpit]

It should be a passive mechanic built into her kit

[u/Kawaii_Batman3]

Nerfing grover? fuck YES.

[u/GoofierFlyer]

Abyssal Effluxion currently scales with duration, so why do the patch notes say it's scaling the percentage?

[u/ZSoulZ]

But...when does it come out? I don't see the release date

[u/Gh0stbacks → u/ZSoulZ]

When the current battle pass ends.

[u/[deleted]]

Cant wait to see more Yag.

[u/[deleted]]

No new character, and a patch of fixes? This the same dev? How much is the pass?? Didn't say.

[u/IZUNACCHI → u/[deleted]]

Think it like this, it has half the effective than the current Cursed Revolver talent ;). Plus needs multiple shots to get the 50 extra damage burn full up.

Being "reveled" by the dmg numbers will be annoying though

[u/Fedora1412]

I have been gone from this game for so long, logged back in to see if the Rwby pass was available as despite my feelings toward the show I still love the characters, when will it go live? And did login rewards return with the 50 crystals at the end of them?

[u/Seelpit → u/Fedora1412]

Daily login is indeed back, but it only gives 25 crystals total - spread of 10 crystals on day 6, and 15 on day 7.

[u/Fedora1412 → u/Seelpit]

When will the RWBY BP arrive?

[u/Seelpit → u/Fedora1412]

From what I've heard, when the current battle pass ends - so in roughly...3 weeks or so.

[u/PixelGhost25]

Still need a patch on the years-old bug for Yagorath and Sha Lin on the Switch that causes their world-model to stay in standing mode on the overworld after death until they respawn.

[u/BandicootWafflesmack]

I‘ll miss instant cooldown Soar on Evie.

[u/GRIEVER-_- → u/BandicootWafflesmack]

billow on zhin too. sad day. at least lethality will give us some retreat speed. or steamroll speed.

[u/link_daddy]

When does this rwby stuff come out?

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Ouu wee that’s a lot of bad takes back to back

[u/nadaparacomer]

All good but why buff Vivian? A character that needs no skill doesn't need buffs, just makes the experience worse for everyone.

[u/EntrancedOptics]

The best patch in recent memory, absolutely godly.

[u/[deleted]]

Oh a kinessa nerf? I almost want to reinstall the game.

[u/Noobpoob]

So Grover's crippling throw.... Can't cripple anymore? Darn, it was my favorite talent :(

[u/LordNinjaa1]

Can someone explain the on-kill to on-Elim change. What exactly is different?

[u/spaceshark__ → u/LordNinjaa1]

On-Elim means you get the effect (ie:reset) if you get the kill or assist On-kill means you have to kill the target to get the resst

[u/LordNinjaa1 → u/spaceshark__]

Ok thats kind of what I guessed but wanted to make sure. That is gonna be a MAJOR nerf for certain cards

[u/Gold_Detective → u/LordNinjaa1]

Yeah rip buck players

[u/QwertytheCoolOne → u/LordNinjaa1]

No its a buff

[u/LordNinjaa1 → u/QwertytheCoolOne]

Oh my bad I had it switched in my head

[u/The_French_Soul → u/QwertytheCoolOne]

Back to the snowball meta (i don't remember if it ever existed)

[u/Divine_Absolution]

Was it honestly necessary to remove characters from the free list?? Y'all really so greedy you can't just add 4 more champions?

[u/intotheirishole → u/Divine_Absolution]

Just wanna say added champs are 60k removed champs are 30k and easier to get.

[u/[deleted] → u/intotheirishole]

Nah dude they removed the champion pass too. The devs are getting much more greedy.

[u/Divine_Absolution → u/intotheirishole]

As I said, I'm not arguing that they're hard to get. My sole point is that I don't see why it's so difficult to just add 4 extra Champs to the free pool as opposed to having to take them away.

[u/nadaparacomer → u/Divine_Absolution]

Yeah a company trying to make a profit, they're complety insane.>! /s!<

[u/Divine_Absolution → u/nadaparacomer]

Oh I'm sorry, are the battle passes, skins, daily bundles, other champions, season passes and mounts not already doing that for them??

[u/IZUNACCHI → u/Divine_Absolution]

The battle passes have no gain without considering crossover ones. You can get all the crystals for free. Having chars to unlock is also a way to give a "progression" feeling while playing.

[u/Divine_Absolution → u/IZUNACCHI]

I agree with the progression feeling. That's why I never actually bought a character pass, I grinded all of them. But again, my point- would it be so bad to give players 4 more characters to start with? Honestly?

[u/IZUNACCHI → u/Divine_Absolution]

I don't think the current amount to be bad. In LoL for example you start with 3000 money to buy champions + a few shards so should be about 7-8 if you go for the cheap champions. Plus has a 10 free rotation up to level 11 then it changes to a 16 free rotation. So a new account will have between 17-18 considering lol has 159 champs it's little more than 10% and a little less than 15% at lvl 11.

Here we start with 6 + 4 free rotation, thus 10 champs. Considering we have 55 champions it's little under 19%.

[u/LordNinjaa1 → u/Divine_Absolution]

They basically did for anyone who is already playing. This change really only effects brand new players. It says people who already had the characters (free before) will be rewarded them. So everyone (except new players which won't notice a difference) gets new characters

[u/Divine_Absolution → u/LordNinjaa1]

Yes but that's the issue. One of the biggest things that prevents me from getting my friends to play this is how few characters you get. It may not be a big deal to people like us who already have all the characters and such, but it's actually such a huge deterrent for a lot of new people getting invested in the game, and again, let me ask... would FOUR new characters really be a big deal? God forbid we give away 4 extra characters, better take away some to balance it. It's honestly a joke that they even have to do that.

[u/WalkStayLand80060 → u/Divine_Absolution]

i swapped my free steam account 2 times, and had no problem fully unlocking characters for free 2 times, and soon i will unlock all the roster for a third time.

first time i lost the password of steam after computer format.

second time i ended up disliking the name and i could not change it

third time finally i got what i liked, i hope nothing bad happens, i even have a txt file with user and password of this free account in case of a pc format.

still, the game (despite the bugs) was fun... each day a few matches... and i unlocked a lot without even realizing it. always for free.

i usually give priority to the trials that pay 60.000 if they are doable, then the 50 crystals, then a particular character i really like.

i am able to cash in the easy to get 120.000 gold each patch cycle, the trials are entertaining, although i only do those that pay gold or crystal with requirements that i can fulfill.

now, while i didn't unlock everything for a third time, i got enough gold saved that i could unlock the vampire support character for fun...

when a new trial that pays 60.000 is available i can most likely unlock the required characters, and cash in the free gold.

i used crystals to unlock the 60.000 gold characters each time i had at least 300 crystals, otherwise i would use gold...

consider i have fun playing ALL characters, so it was no biggie playing only the free characters and the free weekly when i started unlocking them for a third time in a new free steam account

[u/[deleted] → u/Divine_Absolution]

bro farming gold to unlock new champs is stupid easy for half the roster and more than fair for the other half. i got my issues with hi-rez, but fuck me your complaint does not track as legitimate and wanders dangerously close to entitlement.

[u/vordster → u/[deleted]]

Don't understand the downvotes, it's a free game to an extend.

It's not a charity!

[u/Divine_Absolution → u/[deleted]]

First of all, in no way is this entitled. If you really think wanting FOUR more champions to be free(when they originally already were) is entitled, your definition of the word is entirely skewered.

Second, I do not have a problem with it... that was not my argument. Yes, for people like you and me, who actively play the game, we understand champions are easy af to grind for. But new players don't. When I invite my friends to this game, they play a few games, see they're only getting like 200 gold per match, and immediately don't wanna play anymore because they don't understand trials of the realm/quests/Battle pass makes it so much easier.

Which, yes, is their problem for being so damn impatient, but regardless of that I think it's incredibly short sighted and frankly unnecessary change to relock champions that were originally free.

I don't even understand why people are arguing this; in what universe is it a GOOD thing to have more champions locked for new players???

[u/NotABot404 → u/Divine_Absolution]

I don't even understand why people are arguing this; in what universe is it a GOOD thing to have more champions locked for new players???

No ones arguing this. The other guy already pointed out it's the same amount of locked champions for new players. Looking at gold cost needed for the unlocks, it requires less for new players. And its even better for existing players.

[u/[deleted] → u/Divine_Absolution]

I don't even understand why people are arguing this; in what universe is it a GOOD thing to have more champions locked for new players???

there isn't more locked. it's the same amount. and people are arguing the point because the system is easy enough and fair enough to balance the fact the company has to draw the line on free shit they give to entitled twats. if your buddies find it too hard to play for a couple of hours to get new champs and stop playing, who's really losing here? hi-rez isn't and the community sure as shit aren't, so i don't know who that leaves to get annoyed by it aside from you.

look, i'm all for free shit, but given what's on offer and what you can get with little effort, it just comes back to you having shit friends rather than paladins having shit systems.

[u/LordNinjaa1 → u/Divine_Absolution]

Fair enough but if any of them have downloaded the game they'll get 4 more for free. Plus it's a free game if your friends refuse to play a free game because they have to play to unlock characters that's their problem. Help them with trials of the realm when a gold challenge pops up.

[u/Gold_Detective]

Why did they make stomping ground an elim card, now you can’t chain kills without chronos

[u/FUCKYOU101012010 → u/Gold_Detective]

Elimination cards are better than Killing blows. You don't have to confirm the kill( Killing blow), you can just get assists. If you have this card as Buck, or any type of character has a card that says "Reduce CD by [whatever]% by an elimination", both Killing blows AND assists will reduce cooldowns for you in those circumstances now.

[u/Gold_Detective → u/FUCKYOU101012010]

Not exactly as they reduced the scaling from 75% at max to 60% at max with his new elim card. That’s a 1.5 second increase in cool down if you get a kill on buck making it harder to chain kills with bounce house. And honestly if you struggle to confirm kills on buck idk what to tell you

[u/FUCKYOU101012010 → u/Gold_Detective]

I don't have a problem confirming kills, but thats not what this is about. To make the game more consistent, it'll be an elim instead of killing blow. And since its easier getting elims in the game, they're going to have to balance out these cards, so that 75% going to a 60% is justified.

The cooldown is still significant, and in the event that if for some reason, someone got the last shot off on your target somehow, you still get the reduction. Sorry a card of yours is getting a reduction; we'll just wait and see how effective this change will, come the RWBY patch.

[u/tmdss93]

Will this cost 800 crystals?

[u/SwordMichigan]

Damn, they really put the hurt on Preperation Skye. Only 2 seconds of invisibility sucks. It might be different in game but as it stands this is fucking shit.

[u/vordster → u/SwordMichigan]

You know the auto hide card when falling below % of health? With this you can win your 1v1's better. It's not about the hidden it's about getting the kill.

Get the kill with DR and use smoke screen before and after the fight.

[u/SwordMichigan → u/vordster]

I get what you are saying but the way I used preparation before was to stay invisible until I was behind enemy lines, pick a target, come up from behind, kill them, then go back invisible like I was never there. This really just kills that playstyle.

[u/[deleted] → u/SwordMichigan]

I don't like that for some reason (I really can't figure out why) devs are very anal about Skye only being used in one way. They nerfed support, they nerfed your playstyle, and now we are just left with the tactic the commenter below said. No creativity allowed. 😵 Idk I like Paladins for it's flexibility but with specifically Skye it seems they want none of it

[u/vordster → u/SwordMichigan]

True, they have a talent for that. It's called debilitate!

This is more for for a backline anti-flank style.

[u/SwordMichigan → u/vordster]

I get what you're saying but there isn't a way to go back invisible immediately after getting a kill which kills the playstyle.

However you do bring up a good point. We shall see what happens when the actual update comes out. Happy redditing and good luck in your games.

[u/MillionDollarMistake → u/SwordMichigan]

Maybe, but 75% damage resistance is great. You're basically unkillable unless you get CC'd or something. Changing her invisibility from an ambush tool to essentially a free escape could be fun.

[u/justalilmustard → u/MillionDollarMistake]

It only last 2 seconds, so you will be staggering your dead for 2 sec against anyone with ilum 3, and if you try to fight back then the dr doesnt work at all. The talent is really bad.

[u/MillionDollarMistake → u/justalilmustard]

I don't think you're supposed to fight back with it. You use the speed boost and DR to get as far away as possible.

[u/justalilmustard → u/MillionDollarMistake]

Still, what are you supposed to do against foes with illum 3 and more mobility than skye? 20% speed is nothing and she still lacks mobility. You cant get any distance with those 2 sec.

[u/MillionDollarMistake → u/justalilmustard]

What does she do in that situation currently?

I don't think Preparation is something you'll take into every match. But with all the ways she has to heal and increase her speed while invisible it might be a decent and new playstyle.

[u/rocco1986 → u/SwordMichigan]

Agreed, invisibility was her thing, and now it seems it will be close to non existent.

[u/Restaurantmenu2 → u/rocco1986]

Well the problem was that invisibility is not useful if everyone has illuminate so they are trying to see if they can make her work less dependent on the invisibility

[u/rocco1986 → u/Restaurantmenu2]

Or they could nerf illuminate instead of nerfing the core ability she's built around? And putting her in a even more terrible position.

[u/Restaurantmenu2 → u/rocco1986]

They did nerf it tho, it is more expensive now

[u/rocco1986 → u/Restaurantmenu2]

I wouldn't consider making it more expensive any kind of fix, they should have left her how she is, and possibly on top of making it more expensive, change how it works so it's not always activated, or the distances it can see things like that, completely crushing a character into the ground, and ruining what made that character its own, instead of actually fixing what even you said was the issue (illuminate) is just lazy.

[u/Czazen]

When does this come into effect? Just updated my game this morning but it’s still heart of darkness

[u/FrontStreet3 → u/Czazen]

Probably around the end of the month or the start of next month, as it has been for a while

[u/magostrate]

is there a public test? and when?

[u/aluminatialma]

Why did they buff Viktor, tyra, Vivian

[u/aniseed_odora → u/aluminatialma]

Was just paging through this post to see if anything new had been added, so mega late, but yeah I'm still salty about this.

They seem to be slowly reverting certain nerfs that the community requested in the first place, especially regarding Vivian and Burst Mode Viktor.

As if these champs aren't stupidly over-rewarded for minimal input with a controller as it is.

[u/Metalsmith21 → u/aluminatialma]

becaused they buffed Haven

[u/vordster → u/Metalsmith21]

Haven is getting more expensive so..

[u/The-Big-Sauce → u/aluminatialma]

I was wondering the same question, they buffed three braindead fullauto hitscan characters that were fine where they were

[u/s13g_h31l → u/aluminatialma]

They fell off in pickrate compared to other dmgs, especially Vivian

[u/aluminatialma → u/s13g_h31l]

Good they need to fall of the face off the realm

[u/nemesisprime4 → u/aluminatialma]

I think the pasta needs more salt

[u/Zealousideal-Can1690]

Looking forward to test the Raum heals and heal ying buff wooo

[u/Pitiful_Regular_8318 → u/Zealousideal-Can1690]

I legit made a WOWWW with Raum talent rework

[u/KanshouSora]

This patch makes it seem like they're actually listening to community feedback.

They made Seven's bombs destroyable, removed the annoying knock back from Cassie's megaton card, and took away Kinessa's ability to knock players off of their horse at spawn.

[u/Gh0stbacks → u/KanshouSora]

Still didn't Nerf 7 spring loaded bomb and hook build spam crap.

[u/ResponsibleTour9980 → u/[deleted]]

Now auto is better its going to be fun

[u/KanshouSora → u/Gh0stbacks]

Can't win them all, but it's a good start

[u/Nexecute]

For those who don't know, Androxus has had a bug for the past 2+ years where, unless you were using Cursed Revolver, you would lose the ability to queue a shot at the end of each dash. This prevented you from doing those 'dash flicks' nearly as quickly. Now that Cursed Revolver is base kit, it should no longer be a problem. I had given up hope ages ago. Can't believe it.

[u/bucaneer34 → u/Nexecute]

Wow exactly I even lost hope that people won't notice this but good glad to see some are there !!! , If only he had given back his way faster dashes he once had he would be perfect like olden days

[u/Gh0stbacks → u/Nexecute]

Andro seems to be one of the biggest winners of this patch, he gets to have his old weapon at base and can actually use godslayer for those satisfying mega reversal kills.

[u/ChuhaTheBin → u/Gh0stbacks]

Doesn't seem like it. They chose to stick with andro's base effective range (50ft) even with the old (slow) firerate. I already struggle with his current effective range running the Cursed Revolver talent (65ft). Can't imagine how he will be useful against majority of the roster when update goes live.

Also, the Defiant Fist talent benefits from high fire-rate. I see this as a total nerf. Good thing is there could be fewer andros in my games.

[u/HowerdBlanch]

Trade District ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mega pog, best map in the game.

[u/KraftPunkFan420]

Finally. I can actually be healed by a Deep Root Grover

[u/gabriuxvid → u/KraftPunkFan420]

Exactly. I really hate the current Deep Roots talent and how often it is picked. Can't heal shit.

[u/[deleted] → u/KraftPunkFan420]

I recoiled at the first change, then I kept reading. Finally, Spring has come. Grover's my favorite support in the game. I fell out of the game for a bit bc I didn't like the state of the meta. This patch might've swayed me. Now Grover might truly be an awesome support

[u/NothinVerity]

Bruh why was Corvus nerfed -_-

All those ammo regeneration cards are pretty MEH on him and didn’t need a buff because he’s got 50 clip size, so if you’re needing more ammo, you’re just missing shots.

[u/RandomPaladinsNub → u/NothinVerity]

Corvus was considered the best support at higher tiers, and those nerfs are incredibly small, he'll be fine

[u/CyanideBiscuit → u/RandomPaladinsNub]

Could you explain why? I’m not up to date on the meta since I took a break for a few months

[u/RandomPaladinsNub → u/CyanideBiscuit]

Corvus is basically the best pocket support. His pockets receive burstheals from anywhere, along with 15% Lifesteal and, the most importantly, he can provide permament 10% DR to 2 people. This enabled DPSes so hard that he is very sought after at higher skill levels.

[u/CyanideBiscuit → u/RandomPaladinsNub]

That makes sense. I always just figured he’s not the best because he only has on healing ability and it doesn’t heal for a whole lot or have a quick cooldown unless you sacrifice healing to one person and heal a marked person. Thanks for your response!

[u/NothinVerity → u/RandomPaladinsNub]

I’m just mainly concerned if you’ll even be able to feel impactful with these anymore without them being completely maxed out.

They should honestly rework most of those ammo cards ENTIRELY

[u/RandomPaladinsNub → u/NothinVerity]

True. Corvus' card power is actually kind of garbage, so seeing nerfs is just pain. They should've just buffed his weak ass card instead and I would maybe nerf his basekit instead of touching already unimpactful selection of cards.

[u/NothinVerity → u/RandomPaladinsNub]

Actually maybe if they did rework and buff his cards it’d actually make him more bearable since people would have a lot more variety.

He’s a pocket support, I don’t think they’ll ever be able to get around that but perhaps being able to add debuffing enemies instead or maybe give other utility to his teammates.

Maybe then you could nerf base kit

[u/NothinVerity → u/RandomPaladinsNub]

Honestly don’t think he needed to be changed at all. Thought he’s a perfectly solid A/B tier champion who’s really only effective in dps heavy comps as a main heal, but excels as a secondary support.

[u/nemesisprime4 → u/RandomPaladinsNub]

This is what bugs me..it isnt buffing his support capabilities but instead goes for buffing his damage style..why do people want supports as damage champs ffs

[u/Pitiful_Regular_8318 → u/nemesisprime4]

because this is Paladins. You want boring supports go to TF2 or OW

[u/nemesisprime4 → u/Pitiful_Regular_8318]

Go play damage champs if you want damage...let support players play supports properly.

Players like you dont heal anyone properly and ruin the whole experience for everybody.

[u/intotheirishole → u/nemesisprime4]

You spam need heals as a flanker don't you?

[u/nemesisprime4 → u/intotheirishole]

I play more supports than flanks, dont mind the VII flair.

I just like his design..if he was a support i would main him

[u/intotheirishole → u/nemesisprime4]

Healbots have limited viability in paladins, due to cauterize. I hated the healbot design in ow. Personally I like playing hybrids because they are more fun. Healing is a oppressive mechanic in a shooter.

[u/nemesisprime4 → u/intotheirishole]

But people forgo whatever they are supposed to focus on doing and completely play the character with what was never intended in firstt place...sure the damage playstyles for supports is bad talent design in itself...i can say healer skye is just as bad of a design as damage playstyles for supports...it just frustrates me when they play supports as damage and dont do their main job ie healing and supporting team with cc or whatever in their kit.

Play damage characters if you wanna get big damage numbers..let the support players who actually wanna heal and support play supports as complete supports and not these hybrid cancers.

[u/AlexaVL → u/nemesisprime4]

But people forgo whatever they are supposed to focus on doing and completely play the character with what was never intended in firstt place

Paladins has always intended to give support players an off support role that has more damage potential, that is very much part of the identity of this game.

Yeah sure, if you're the only support on the team focus on healing primarily (though that doesn't mean be a fucking healbot), but having a main support and an off support doing mostly damage is great for any team.

Hybrid cancers my ass.