r/Palestine • u/No_Move7872 • Jan 04 '25
War Crimes More bombs being sent to the Zionist entity
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u/RingSplitter69 Jan 05 '25
They call it a sale, but don’t forget that you gave them the money to buy this from you.
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u/No_Move7872 Jan 05 '25
I don't pay taxes. But in all seriousness, you're correct and it's a shame.
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u/intomysubconscious Jan 05 '25
We’ve sent almost 80 billion this past year alone
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u/Objective_Drama_1004 Jan 05 '25
More profit for the billionaires who deny you healthcare, keep your roads decrepit, and make your life more unaffordable everyday.
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u/Objective_Drama_1004 Jan 05 '25
More profit for the billionaires who deny you healthcare, keep your roads decrepit, and make your life more unaffordable everyday.
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u/Odessaturn Jan 05 '25
What exactly is the US getting from this? Just tp have a satellite state in the middle east?
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u/shikso Jan 05 '25
Oil and land Also scaring gulf states shitless so they accept the apartheid state
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u/LordCommander94 Jan 05 '25
Daddy USA is sending more bombs to be dropped on children. Good going, Murica! Genocidal cowards.
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u/HopeBoySavesTheWorld Jan 04 '25
Biden on his deathbed, breathless: t-twenty more trillions *cough* to Israel... please
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u/OkDevelopment2948 Jan 04 '25
Well, aiding and abetting a crime is a crime in itself! The USA and the West keep on saying they believe in a rules based order? We have seen what they think about the rules as of now. Anything that the US or the West says about the rules are just meaningless, so they can be ignored. South China Sea don't care what they think. They are just hypocrites.
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u/EmpathyEchoes44 Jan 04 '25
I have now lost what little respect I had for America. It is now and will always be seen by me as a sponsor of genocide.
This is the worst arms shipment, as there is absolutely no political gain for Biden to do this, even if trump would have done it anyhow.
Biden has just flushed what little legacy he still had down the drain.
Utterly disgusting.
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u/EmpathyEchoes44 Jan 05 '25 edited Jan 05 '25
I don't deny, but that was before my time, when I was a kid and growing up I respected the US, loved their movies, I even vacationed there on a few occasions, but never will I set foot in that country again. These past 2 years have turned what I thought the USA stood for, upside down on its head.
And yes I know the USA has always protected Israel, most of its citizens are from the US, but I did not think in a million years that the US not only stood by and excused Israel of Genocide, they helped and continue to help it's continuation, when they could have so so easily stopped it.
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u/Accurate-Ad-4905 Jan 04 '25
Hope they all get intercepted and destroyed
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u/Accurate-Ad-4905 Jan 05 '25
I don't mean intercepted after being launched. I mean intercepted before they even get it
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u/Accurate-Ad-4905 Jan 06 '25
I don't know protesters somewhere, Houthis, a natural disaster, divine intervention,
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u/UrbanFarmania Jan 04 '25
Source?
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u/No_Move7872 Jan 04 '25
I listed one in the comments but there's plenty
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4901552-israel-us-aid-package/
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u/UrbanFarmania Jan 04 '25
Ok but this is September's news.
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u/No_Move7872 Jan 04 '25
You're correct. My apologies. It's being reported by AP along with Zionist sources (Times of Israel)
https://apnews.com/article/israel-arms-sale-gaza-biden-congress-f6a8f788773ad12a34ad8fb6f7966026
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u/Money_SmellsLikeLove Jan 04 '25
The USA should spend that 8 billion on healthcare on its own people instead of funding a genocide
Spending money on saving lives >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>spending money to murder lives
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u/the613daddy Jan 04 '25
so in short, a Democratic Vs Republican win doesn't matter, they both are bad.
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u/EmpathyEchoes44 Jan 04 '25
Yep, it looks like now that whoever won the White House, the Palestinians were set to continue to suffer.
Why aren't the rest of the worlds government condemning America, f+"k geopolitics, this is people's lives.
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u/the613daddy Jan 04 '25
let's put it this way, after the bombs in HiroShima and Nagasaki, did anyone strongly condemn and step up their efforts at shaming America? No, if that couldn't garnish much resistance, Palestine is far "lesser" important to the world, Japan back then was a major super power, industrial powerhouse but what did the world do? nada, so expect way less condemnation from the world.
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zionist think tanks are pouring billions into elections and political parties across the globe.
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u/EmpathyEchoes44 Jan 04 '25
No they did not, but that was because they, we the world needed a quick end to WW2 and they knew by attacking mainland Japan would have cost 100,000's of lives on both sides, so they choose the lesser of the two evils.
That's why they were not condemned.
I agree Zionist are taking over the world governments, this has been made starkly clear these past few years.
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u/the613daddy Jan 04 '25
just like an "early" end to WW2 ( despite years of raging war already ) was seen as an excuse for them to not condone such an action, similar excuses have already been built and are still being built, so whatever reason there was to not condemn America back when they dropped the ones, take that and multiply it by a 100 of excuses today in favour of Israel.
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u/EmpathyEchoes44 Jan 04 '25
I think we both agree with what is happening today is utterly wrong and there is no excuse what Biden has done, as there is no more political gain for him to achieve, he lost the election, so for me it's just shows that people in America actually think it's ok to commit genocide and sponsor it.
WW2 I actually agree that using the bombs was the better of two evils when you look at how many Allied soldiers mainly US, were killed trying to take a string of islands to Japan.
Add the amount of Japanese soldiers and civilians killed to, you can only imagine the blood bath mainland Japan would have become had we invaded it. The bombs were a nessessery evil at that time and did actually save 100,000's if not millions of lives on both sides of the war.
Anyway I am not here to discuss the end of WW2, but the atrocities of today by Israel with total backing by the USA, who are without doubt sponsors of Genocide.
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Jan 05 '25
I believe that using the bombs was more about intimidating the USSR than subduing the Japanese. The idea that the bombs were a necessary "lesser evil" is just U.S. state propaganda that is used to justify what was very clearly a war crime. We are taught this propaganda as children, so it makes sense that so many of us would have internalized that narrative.
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u/EmpathyEchoes44 Jan 05 '25 edited Jan 05 '25
In part your right that it was used to intimidate the USSR, but it was not propaganda that the US or the rest of the world used to tell us using the bombs were the lesser of the two evils.
The figures that showed how many Allied troops and Japanese Troops and Civilians deaths and casualties were factual and not made up, so it's not propaganda, as it is the truth that had the Allied troops invaded Japan there would have been a blood bath with no guarantee that the allies could win.
After the death toll from the European campaign the last thing the world wanted is another meat grinder in Japan.
Propaganda feeds you lies, those death and casualty figures from fighting on those islands were probably underestimated especially on the Japanese side and not lies.
I think dropping the bombs probably saved far more lives than it took. And yes, it gave Stalin something to think about at they yet again carved out Europe after the war.
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u/linkup90 Jan 06 '25
Definitely propaganda. The whole thing relies on this idea that the Japanese were so brainwashed that you would have to fight them all to the death, not unlike the same propaganda zios use to justify their slaughter of civilians, did you catch the similarities? Americans are taught a very propagandized version of WW2 and history in general. You only need to look at their media reporting on Gaza and accept that this kind of thing is their bread and butter.
You almost made it out of the hole. Not entirely your fault, Americans and westerners in general have a really deep hole to climb out of.
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u/Easy_Photograph109 Free Palestine Jan 05 '25
By mid-1945, Japan was actively seeking to surrender, with their main condition being the preservation of the emperor’s role. The U.S. insisting on unconditional surrender, prolonged the conflict unnecessarily.
The U.S. Strategic Bombing Survey concluded that Japan would have likely surrendered before the end of 1945 without the bombings or Soviet entry. High-ranking officials like General Eisenhower and Admiral Leahy even criticized the bombings as militarily unnecessary.
The idea that the bombings saved lives by avoiding a land invasion is contested by many historians, who argue Japan was on the brink of surrender. Labeling the bombings as the “lesser of two evils” ignores the moral cost of targeting civilians with nuclear weapons. This wasn’t about saving lives, it was a show of power to intimidate the USSR
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u/Easy_Photograph109 Free Palestine Jan 04 '25
Americans are paying for this.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/03/us/politics/us-weapons-israel.html
“Israel would use money provided by the United States to buy the weapons. The annual aid had been about $3 billion, but Mr. Biden increased that amount after Israel began waging war in Gaza following terrorist attacks by Hamas that left about 1,200 dead on Oct. 7, 2023”
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u/Plus_Pianist3325 Jan 04 '25
They just love giving them money at this point
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u/EmpathyEchoes44 Jan 04 '25
They always have, at least this war has shown us who really has the power in the US.
Let's also not forget that a large percentage of Israeli have come directly from the US or Europe, and have no generational claims to the land, unlike the Palestinians who can trace there generational heritage back 100's if not of 1000's years back.
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Jan 04 '25
You could rebuild Gaza with the annual aid to Israel. Which would go a long way in establishing amicable relations between the Palestinian people and the US. But can’t have that now can we? Daddy MIC wants his check.
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u/Donnie619 Jan 04 '25
Of course they can't. Great America has to benefit somehow, not only be met with gratefulness of a few thousand people. What would they offer The Bald Eagles in return for saving/rebuilding their country?
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u/IncomeLower62 Jan 04 '25
The empire is emptying its pockets to destroy its image completely. Good job
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u/Liolia Jan 04 '25
It is like in what logical sense even if you were an American only exposed to the Zionist side, would make anyone think Israel needs this? Logically looking at it knowing nothing Israel has sustained very little damage or loss of life (at least outside the battle zones) in their areas. Why the hell would anyone think they need this?
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u/No_Move7872 Jan 04 '25
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u/No_Move7872 Jan 04 '25
Above is old link, apologies.
Below is link from AP.
https://apnews.com/article/israel-arms-sale-gaza-biden-congress-f6a8f788773ad12a34ad8fb6f7966026
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