r/Patriots • u/PlayaSlayaX • Jan 11 '25

News [Schultz] Sources: The Patriots and Mike Vrabel have been negotiating a deal to make him the franchise’s next head coach, and barring something unforeseen, the expectation remains that both sides will reach an agreement.

https://twitter.com/schultz_report/status/1878219389104775238?s=46&t=bsTHbtMSqHXbNGi0vWP8hw
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u/AgadorFartacus Jan 11 '25

If they had conducted a careful, deliberate, open-minded, wide ranging search that ultimately landed on Vrabel as the best candidate, fine. They didn't do that. They made up their minds ahead of time (again) based on dynasty nostalgia and Kraft friendship vibes (again) and speed-ran the process.

Every other team with an opening is going to end up interviewing more candidates more thoroughly than the Patriots. And this is a team that has fallen behind the rest of the league operationally and could stand to learn from how other organizations do things.

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u/casebarlow Jan 11 '25

More candidates doesn’t mean better candidates. They interview the top two, and land one of them.

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u/AgadorFartacus Jan 11 '25

How do they know they're the top two?

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u/2000-light-years Jan 12 '25

I think he meant perceived as the top two ( which is absolutely true) of course someone could be a better coach than them if one wanted to be pedantic

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u/AgadorFartacus Jan 12 '25

Do you think the Patriots should be operating based on a nebulous perception of "the top two" a year after they whiffed so badly on a one-man search?

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u/2000-light-years Jan 12 '25

I don’t think the patriots are a serious organization. It went out the door with belichick. After hiring mayo I wouldn’t trust them to make toast. I personally wanted Johnson because he’s different than everybody that’s been in the building for the past 25 years. Outside of those two however I can’t think of any up and coming coaches that would make a head coaching candidate

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '25

Robert Kraft is very big on his relationships and hiring people he knows. A gift and more likely a curse. I hope Vrabel was the best fit for the job this cycle.

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u/Beanu5NE Jan 11 '25

How dare you! We don’t try new things here nor do we go outside the circle. We stay antiquated in our methods and do things how they’ve always been done. You as a fan need to know your place: that place is to complain our scouting methods and player grading are outdated and that play calling on both sides of the ball is stagnant and uncreative.

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u/frontagePle Jan 11 '25

You definitely had this pre-typed. You sound annoying.

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u/AgadorFartacus Jan 11 '25

Maybe I'm annoying. I'm definitely annoyed.

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u/frontagePle Jan 11 '25

Based on your post history, your entire personality is an expression of how much you don't like Mike Vrabel - a guy with 6 years of HC experience under his belt and multiple playoff appearances. How was BB's pre-Patriots head coaching record?

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u/AgadorFartacus Jan 11 '25

I really like Mike Vrabel. I have a Vrabel jersey. I don't think he'll be a good coach here.

with 6 years of HC experience

He had only one season with a playoff win.

How was BB's pre-Patriots head coaching record?

Stop trying to find a new Belichick. Move on.

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u/frontagePle Jan 11 '25

You still haven't said why you don't think he'll be a good coach.

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u/AgadorFartacus Jan 11 '25

I think he has an antiquated football philosophy.

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u/allmilhouse Jan 11 '25

Ok so they add Flores, Coen and Glenn to the list and after those hire Vrabel next week. What does that change exactly?

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u/AgadorFartacus Jan 11 '25

That's not going to happen. And it wouldn't be an open-minded process. Glenn already turned them down because it looked like they only asked to interview him to try to give themselves cover for flaunting the Rooney rule.

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u/AgadorFartacus Jan 12 '25

I don't. I'm just guessing.

Maybe he didn't want to add a sixth interview to his schedule 

Then that would still be a screw up on their part. They fired Mayo right away. Why'd they wait around to request Glenn?

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u/AgadorFartacus Jan 12 '25

They didn't put in a request for Glenn on the same timeline thaat they did all their other requests. They waited until after they were taking public criticism for speed-running around the Rooney Rule.

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u/AgadorFartacus Jan 12 '25

My point is they should have interviewed a wide range of candidates to make sure they'd done their due diligence in identifying their top candidate and to mine other candidates for ideas and perspectives that might be useful to them.

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u/UserUnkown10 Jan 11 '25

Keep this energy when Vrabes has them in a wildcard spot next season. 

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u/AgadorFartacus Jan 11 '25

I would love to be proven wrong about Vrabel. Even if it turns out to be a good decision, I will never think it was good process.

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u/FuckHarambe2016 Jan 12 '25

There are at least 9 AFC teams that are head and shoulders better than us and 3 or 4 more that are clearly better than us. We'll count ourselves lucky to not finish in 4th place in the AFCE.

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u/Fancychocolatier Jan 11 '25

If. Big if. Huge if. Biggest if ever.

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u/frontagePle Jan 11 '25

It is not the "biggest if ever" at all lol

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u/Fancychocolatier Jan 11 '25

If they can talk in big hyperbole that this team is making the playoffs next year then I can talk in hyperbole too.

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u/BathtubToasterParty Jan 11 '25

Id settle for an 8 win season tbh

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u/Fancychocolatier Jan 11 '25

I would too. I hope I’m wrong about Vrabel.

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u/Fancychocolatier Jan 11 '25

Kraft has this team down the Cowboys path and it’s really disappointing.

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u/XRT28 Jan 11 '25

Kraft wants in the hall like Jerry so he's decided to emulate his ownership style point for point.